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> I recently went back for a funeral, and I had to spend a moment reminding myself that it would be fine for me. Your passport does not matter, the colour of y

> I recently went back for a funeral, and I had to spend a moment reminding myself that it would be fine for me. Your passport does not matter, the colour of your skin does: "US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’": * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/05/us-citizens-jailed-ice-los-angeles https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/05/us-citizens-... "A U.S. citizen says ICE forced open the door to his Minnesota home and removed him in his underwear after a warrantless search" * https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-u-s-citizen-says-ice-forced-open-the-door-to-his-minnesota-home-and-removed-him-in-his-underwear-after-a-warrantless-search https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-u-s-citizen-says-ice-f... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

forinti 8mo ago
This reminds me of an incident with a friend of mine. He flew to the US and entered through Texas. He is white with blond hair and he was wearing a t-shirt very reminiscent of the Confederate flag. A security guard picked up his bag from the carousel, handed it to him, and very emphatically said "Welcome home, sir!".
- mixmastamyk 8mo ago
  How would a guard know who a bag belongs to?
  - forinti 8mo ago
    It must have been the x-ray conveyer belt, not the carousel.
    - staticman2 8mo ago
      Pretty sure you don't go through an x-ray conveyor belt when you exit a plane. I think something was lost in the telling. I could see a kiosk worker saying this or similar.
      - mixmastamyk 8mo ago
        On intl flights thru Houston I’ve had to exit, grab bags, carry them to security again, then proceed to the next leg of flight.
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- groundzeros2015 8mo ago
  That’s actually not an example of someone with an American passport being prevented in because of their skin color.
- Saline9515 8mo ago
  What is the incident? The security guard being nice?
hyperpape 8mo ago
Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things. I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport. And yeah, even if you're a white man with a US passport, you still might end up shot by ICE if you're in Minneapolis (doesn't mean you're less likely to be targeted).
- hungryhobbit 8mo ago
  >You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport. Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American. I hate to say it, but to many (racist) Americans, brown skin < anything else ... and ICE has a disproportionate number of those people, because they deliberately hire them.
  - hyperpape 8mo ago
    1. A few messages upthread, I note that I'm an American, and I'm from the South. Quite familiar with how racist folks can be. 2. Reread what I wrote, it's not contradicted by what you said.
  - groundzeros2015 8mo ago
    There is no evidence for any of this.
- hyperpape 8mo ago
  hell of a typo in that last sentence, and I can't edit. I meant to say "doesn't mean you're not less likely to be targeted".
- throw0101d 8mo ago
  > I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. The way things are currently operating, the border is probably the place you have to worry the least as it's staffed by CBP folks which have probably had training: it's the rest of the country with ICE randos running around that seem to be the worrisome areas. Just ask the South Koreans: * https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/12/south-korean-outrage-at-us-detention-ordeal-as-300-workers-return-home https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/12/s... > You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport […] Are we talking at the border or the rest of the country? At the border with CBP a US passport would probably be best. With the rest of the country, with ICE, white skin and a British (or any) passports would probably be 'best'. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black
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forinti 8mo ago

This reminds me of an incident with a friend of mine. He flew to the US and entered through Texas. He is white with blond hair and he was wearing a t-shirt very reminiscent of the Confederate flag. A security guard picked up his bag from the carousel, handed it to him, and very emphatically said "Welcome home, sir!".

mixmastamyk 8mo ago
How would a guard know who a bag belongs to?
- forinti 8mo ago
  It must have been the x-ray conveyer belt, not the carousel.
  - staticman2 8mo ago
    Pretty sure you don't go through an x-ray conveyor belt when you exit a plane. I think something was lost in the telling. I could see a kiosk worker saying this or similar.
    - mixmastamyk 8mo ago
      On intl flights thru Houston I’ve had to exit, grab bags, carry them to security again, then proceed to the next leg of flight.
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groundzeros2015 8mo ago
That’s actually not an example of someone with an American passport being prevented in because of their skin color.
Saline9515 8mo ago
What is the incident? The security guard being nice?

hyperpape 8mo ago

Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things. I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport. And yeah, even if you're a white man with a US passport, you still might end up shot by ICE if you're in Minneapolis (doesn't mean you're less likely to be targeted).

hungryhobbit 8mo ago
>You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport. Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American. I hate to say it, but to many (racist) Americans, brown skin < anything else ... and ICE has a disproportionate number of those people, because they deliberately hire them.
- hyperpape 8mo ago
  1. A few messages upthread, I note that I'm an American, and I'm from the South. Quite familiar with how racist folks can be. 2. Reread what I wrote, it's not contradicted by what you said.
- groundzeros2015 8mo ago
  There is no evidence for any of this.
hyperpape 8mo ago
hell of a typo in that last sentence, and I can't edit. I meant to say "doesn't mean you're not less likely to be targeted".
throw0101d 8mo ago
> I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. The way things are currently operating, the border is probably the place you have to worry the least as it's staffed by CBP folks which have probably had training: it's the rest of the country with ICE randos running around that seem to be the worrisome areas. Just ask the South Koreans: * https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/12/south-korean-outrage-at-us-detention-ordeal-as-300-workers-return-home https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/sep/12/s... > You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport […] Are we talking at the border or the rest of the country? At the border with CBP a US passport would probably be best. With the rest of the country, with ICE, white skin and a British (or any) passports would probably be 'best'. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black

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