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> trying to impact the general US feeling of invulnerability Or, perhaps, trying to defend themselves? They are being attacked, after all.

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tzahifadida 7mo ago
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- orwin 7mo ago
  They can make it very expensive though. And they can't negotiate, given it's the second time they are attacked during negotiations, so really, what can they do? Cause the most chaos possible around them, strain the relationships between the US and other ME countries, force the US to make a choice about which ally to protect (it will be Saudi Arabia), make the oil price go up and deplete US weapon stocks. If the force the US and Israel to put boots on the ground, they will have won.
  - tzahifadida 7mo ago
    In WW-II, the US bombed the hell out of German forces for months on end. That is what people do not understand. The US have the capability to generate bombs indefinitely. There will be no boots on the ground for soldiers (they wish). They will just get pulverised as time goes by. If the US and Israel will think they cannot get to their thick skull they'll simply bomb the oil refineries and let the Iranian regime deal with paychecks from their street goons and fanatics who will eat them alive.
    - bayindirh 7mo ago
      > The US have the capability to generate bombs indefinitely. The same US which had to re-build and re-open factories to be able to support Ukraine, and had an important shortage of shells for some time? The same US talking with their allies to build ships for them? US generals said that their defensive munition is not infinite. Middle Eastern countries said that they have Patriot stockpiles for 4 days. We're past WWII. Nobody has that capacity anymore. Some of the tech and factories built these gigantic battle cruisers are not present anymore even. US may, and can pulverize Iran if they want, but it'll be much more expensive than WWII era, because of how interconnected the world is now, and this is how post-WWII world has been designated. Make everyone depend on everyone, and make war very expensive as a result.
    - nixon_why69 7mo ago
      Its not bombs that are running out, its interceptors. The 12 day war exhausted 25% of american stocks, we're on day 3 of this round, do the math. What happens to Israel when the interceptors run out and they're on equal standing with Iranian/Palestinian/Lebanese civilians?
nixon_why69 7mo ago
It's both, this particular counter-attack is aimed at morale rather than specifically a base launching sorties against them. Ultimately, this war ends when America loses the political will to continue, so morale is a strategic objective for them.
dotancohen 7mo ago
That's why they've been hitting residential buildings and hotels as well? They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army? All these attempts to justify Iranian terror demonstrate just how deep Qatari influence online has been. And even Qatar is being attacked by Iran now.
- kasey_junk 7mo ago
  Is Hezbollah hiding in the elementary school that got bombed? Perhaps that’s where the Iranian nuclear research was done? We attacked them. Full stop. And as far as I can tell we haven’t given them any conditions for when we will stop bombing them. In what moral framework do you have to just accept another sovereign, a vastly more powerful one, invading your country without fighting back?
  - ta20240528 7mo ago
    I can't guess what the USA wants other than a distraction from the raping-of- children saga, but I bet Israel would settle for "we acknowledge your right to exist and won't fund or encourage organisations that plan to harm you." If Saudi Arabia can get there…
    - kasey_junk 7mo ago
      The world has seen what Israel does when they’re attacked. They don’t get to set moral frameworks anymore.
      - ta20240528 7mo ago
        Agreed. But that wasn't the OP's question.
      - dotancohen 7mo ago
        Who in your opinion sets the moral framework for defending oneself against an enemy which has sworn genocide and proven capable of destroying entire peaceful villages along their borders?
keybored 7mo ago
America is so unused to being attacked (counter-attacked) that this needs to be explained apparently.
avereveard 7mo ago
they have been engaging in hybrid warfare for decade+ they don't get to play victim this is the result of their continued proxy attacks

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tzahifadida 7mo ago

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orwin 7mo ago
They can make it very expensive though. And they can't negotiate, given it's the second time they are attacked during negotiations, so really, what can they do? Cause the most chaos possible around them, strain the relationships between the US and other ME countries, force the US to make a choice about which ally to protect (it will be Saudi Arabia), make the oil price go up and deplete US weapon stocks. If the force the US and Israel to put boots on the ground, they will have won.
- tzahifadida 7mo ago
  In WW-II, the US bombed the hell out of German forces for months on end. That is what people do not understand. The US have the capability to generate bombs indefinitely. There will be no boots on the ground for soldiers (they wish). They will just get pulverised as time goes by. If the US and Israel will think they cannot get to their thick skull they'll simply bomb the oil refineries and let the Iranian regime deal with paychecks from their street goons and fanatics who will eat them alive.
  - bayindirh 7mo ago
    > The US have the capability to generate bombs indefinitely. The same US which had to re-build and re-open factories to be able to support Ukraine, and had an important shortage of shells for some time? The same US talking with their allies to build ships for them? US generals said that their defensive munition is not infinite. Middle Eastern countries said that they have Patriot stockpiles for 4 days. We're past WWII. Nobody has that capacity anymore. Some of the tech and factories built these gigantic battle cruisers are not present anymore even. US may, and can pulverize Iran if they want, but it'll be much more expensive than WWII era, because of how interconnected the world is now, and this is how post-WWII world has been designated. Make everyone depend on everyone, and make war very expensive as a result.
  - nixon_why69 7mo ago
    Its not bombs that are running out, its interceptors. The 12 day war exhausted 25% of american stocks, we're on day 3 of this round, do the math. What happens to Israel when the interceptors run out and they're on equal standing with Iranian/Palestinian/Lebanese civilians?

nixon_why69 7mo ago

It's both, this particular counter-attack is aimed at morale rather than specifically a base launching sorties against them. Ultimately, this war ends when America loses the political will to continue, so morale is a strategic objective for them.

dotancohen 7mo ago

That's why they've been hitting residential buildings and hotels as well? They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army? All these attempts to justify Iranian terror demonstrate just how deep Qatari influence online has been. And even Qatar is being attacked by Iran now.

kasey_junk 7mo ago
Is Hezbollah hiding in the elementary school that got bombed? Perhaps that’s where the Iranian nuclear research was done? We attacked them. Full stop. And as far as I can tell we haven’t given them any conditions for when we will stop bombing them. In what moral framework do you have to just accept another sovereign, a vastly more powerful one, invading your country without fighting back?
- ta20240528 7mo ago
  I can't guess what the USA wants other than a distraction from the raping-of- children saga, but I bet Israel would settle for "we acknowledge your right to exist and won't fund or encourage organisations that plan to harm you." If Saudi Arabia can get there…
  - kasey_junk 7mo ago
    The world has seen what Israel does when they’re attacked. They don’t get to set moral frameworks anymore.
    - ta20240528 7mo ago
      Agreed. But that wasn't the OP's question.
    - dotancohen 7mo ago
      Who in your opinion sets the moral framework for defending oneself against an enemy which has sworn genocide and proven capable of destroying entire peaceful villages along their borders?

keybored 7mo ago

America is so unused to being attacked (counter-attacked) that this needs to be explained apparently.

avereveard 7mo ago

they have been engaging in hybrid warfare for decade+ they don't get to play victim this is the result of their continued proxy attacks