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An entire new generation of people have been born and raised into a world that is more accepting of always recording and being recorded since 14 years ago.

martin1975 8mo ago
And they will soon find out that world's make believe. No one I know, and I know hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of people would allow themselves in a room to be recorded surreptitiously.
- alanbernstein 8mo ago
  And yet we are surrounded by cameras that do this constantly
nitwit005 8mo ago
A common fear for younger people has become being recorded and becoming famous in some embarrassing video. I don't see the problem as having gone away.
- monero-xmr 8mo ago
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  - kingkawn 8mo ago
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  - hackyhacky 8mo ago
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    - qsera 8mo ago
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      - hackyhacky 8mo ago
        > That is not so bad, right? It is not like they are wiped off the face of the earth. They just lose free $$$. I have no idea where you get the idea of "free money." The government invests in science, business, and developments that help the country; and decisions involving that investment should not be colored by adherence to the current administration's political agenda. I'm not concerned about the careers of the affected individuals, as unjust as that is; I'm concerned about the damage to the country, to our relationship with our allies, and to our standing in the world. Instead we get this: Businesses that flatter Trump get to have acquisitions, and those that don't get their contracts cancelled. The new "political correctness" is towing the line for Trumpian misinformation. I'm also not just talking about investments, but employment. Think about the jobs of federal employees for daring to have an opinion that contradicts Dear Leader. > If a government feels that they don't contribute positively to the society, That's a disingenuous argument. No one believes that the Trump administration is making decisions about who to support based on what is good for the country. Paramount's acquisition of WBD will be allowed for no other reason than because it helps Trump. Universities are targeted not because they are doing bad work but because they are seen as popular among the opposition. The government is defunding research not because it isn't contributing positively, but because it contradicts the government's a priori talking points. The damage done to society as a result of the defunding is, for them, just collateral damage. > That does not mean every voice that is enabled is a "Nazi" I never said that every voice on the right is a Nazi, just that Nazis are among those voices. And that's enough for me: if the government is supporting any Nazis and racists, as they evidently are, that's too many. And if your argument is "Hey, not all of us are literal Nazis", then you are not doing anything to advance your position.
        qsera 8mo ago
        > And that's enough for me So you ll start rejecting any argument that you supported before, as soon as a "Nazi" agrees with it?
    - monero-xmr 8mo ago
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      - hackyhacky 8mo ago
        > My hunch is you would call me a Nazi No, I would call you a Nazi for promoting the idea that Jews are organized to replace and outbreed gentiles (as says Musk), for denying the validity of any election that your party loses (as has Trump), for unilaterally seizing powers constitutionally held by the legislature (as has Trump), for using your elected office power to enrich yourself and your friends (as had Trump), for denying that American citizens of different ethnicities are "real Americans" (as has Trump), for attacking non-partisan institutions because they're politically inconvenient (as has Trump). Popularity is no defense . Nazi opinions were popular in the 1930s, and now they're popular again. They are still Nazi opinions. You can check voter ID all day, I don't care. This administration has crossed many red lines.
        monero-xmr 8mo ago
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        hackyhacky 8mo ago
        Being pro-Jew is not the same as being pro-Israel. > I believe Musk Generally, spreading lies rooted in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion about Jewish conspiracies to displace gentiles is not what I would consider "pro-Jew" behavior. Regarding Musk specifically, I have seen no evidence of any kind that he is "pro" anything other than his own self interest. Like Trump, he is a man without principles, religious or otherwise. > The most anti-Jew people I encounter are hardcore leftists and atheists What specifically did they do to make you think that? Did they criticize Israel? EDIT: how fitting that besides coming to HN to defend a fascist billionaire, you are also promoting a crypto scam. That tells me everything about your ethics and political alignment.
        Dylan16807 8mo ago
boca_honey 8mo ago
I'm not sure if you have experience with teenagers, but you’ll quickly realize they are even more resistant to this technology than we ever were. For the vast majority of kids today, this is their worst nightmare. They will reject it even more forcefully than we have.
- xboxnolifes 8mo ago
  The teenagers I know willing put geo-tracking software on their phones to see where their friends are at any time.
  - boca_honey 8mo ago
    Yeah, and that's consensual. Being recorded by some creep with cringe VR glasses is nothing like that.
- duskdozer 8mo ago
  Really? The ones living on tiktok?
  - boca_honey 8mo ago
    Don't be dense. They control what they upload to social media and they mostly do it within closed circles (close friends, etc). Being recorded without consent is another story.
  - nkrisc 8mo ago
    Yes, they’re the ones afraid of some creep surreptitiously recording them and posting it on TikTok.
pibaker 8mo ago
Even in an environment where filming (with phones) is common and acceptable, smart glasses can still come off as rude because others find it hard tell if you are recording or not. To record a video on your phone you need to hold your phone up pointed at the other person, usually not in the same way you would normally use a phone. If you see someone holding his phone steady at face level and pointing at something without making finger movements, you know he is filming. If someone is pointing his phone down towards the ground and scrolling around with his thumb, you know he is probably not. To record from a pair of smart glasses you just need to look at someone, as you would normally look at any other thing. Yes there will be an LED on, but the person being recorded probably couldn't see it if it is in a bright, busy environment and you are more than a few steps away, plus there will be aftermarket modifications to disable the LED. In short, there is no way you can reliably tell if someone's smart glasses are filming you. You have to assume that worst.
alwa 8mo ago
And yet, the New York Times reports that all the hottest clubs are banning phones on the dance floor. Perhaps in reaction to having lived the downsides of omnipresent social surveillance, the youngest adults in my life are uniformly sober about the perils of oversharing. Then again, there may be some selection bias at play… https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/nyregion/nyc-nightlife-no-phones.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/nyregion/nyc-nightlife-no...
- wolvoleo 8mo ago
  Yes here in Europe too. I really love this. You can keep your phone here but the cameras are taped off. Of course that can easily be undone but it avoids the "oh sorry I forgot it wasn't allowed" excuse.
designerarvid 8mo ago
In Sweden, kids have stopped showering after PE class due to this concern. The world is not deterministic, and we can shape norms of how we interact with each other. We don't have to accept being constantly recorded just because the technology makes it possible.

martin1975 8mo ago

And they will soon find out that world's make believe. No one I know, and I know hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of people would allow themselves in a room to be recorded surreptitiously.

alanbernstein 8mo ago
And yet we are surrounded by cameras that do this constantly

nitwit005 8mo ago

A common fear for younger people has become being recorded and becoming famous in some embarrassing video. I don't see the problem as having gone away.

monero-xmr 8mo ago
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- kingkawn 8mo ago
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- hackyhacky 8mo ago
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  - qsera 8mo ago
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    - hackyhacky 8mo ago
      > That is not so bad, right? It is not like they are wiped off the face of the earth. They just lose free $$$. I have no idea where you get the idea of "free money." The government invests in science, business, and developments that help the country; and decisions involving that investment should not be colored by adherence to the current administration's political agenda. I'm not concerned about the careers of the affected individuals, as unjust as that is; I'm concerned about the damage to the country, to our relationship with our allies, and to our standing in the world. Instead we get this: Businesses that flatter Trump get to have acquisitions, and those that don't get their contracts cancelled. The new "political correctness" is towing the line for Trumpian misinformation. I'm also not just talking about investments, but employment. Think about the jobs of federal employees for daring to have an opinion that contradicts Dear Leader. > If a government feels that they don't contribute positively to the society, That's a disingenuous argument. No one believes that the Trump administration is making decisions about who to support based on what is good for the country. Paramount's acquisition of WBD will be allowed for no other reason than because it helps Trump. Universities are targeted not because they are doing bad work but because they are seen as popular among the opposition. The government is defunding research not because it isn't contributing positively, but because it contradicts the government's a priori talking points. The damage done to society as a result of the defunding is, for them, just collateral damage. > That does not mean every voice that is enabled is a "Nazi" I never said that every voice on the right is a Nazi, just that Nazis are among those voices. And that's enough for me: if the government is supporting any Nazis and racists, as they evidently are, that's too many. And if your argument is "Hey, not all of us are literal Nazis", then you are not doing anything to advance your position.
      - qsera 8mo ago
        > And that's enough for me So you ll start rejecting any argument that you supported before, as soon as a "Nazi" agrees with it?
  - monero-xmr 8mo ago
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    - hackyhacky 8mo ago
      > My hunch is you would call me a Nazi No, I would call you a Nazi for promoting the idea that Jews are organized to replace and outbreed gentiles (as says Musk), for denying the validity of any election that your party loses (as has Trump), for unilaterally seizing powers constitutionally held by the legislature (as has Trump), for using your elected office power to enrich yourself and your friends (as had Trump), for denying that American citizens of different ethnicities are "real Americans" (as has Trump), for attacking non-partisan institutions because they're politically inconvenient (as has Trump). Popularity is no defense . Nazi opinions were popular in the 1930s, and now they're popular again. They are still Nazi opinions. You can check voter ID all day, I don't care. This administration has crossed many red lines.
      - monero-xmr 8mo ago
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        hackyhacky 8mo ago
        Being pro-Jew is not the same as being pro-Israel. > I believe Musk Generally, spreading lies rooted in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion about Jewish conspiracies to displace gentiles is not what I would consider "pro-Jew" behavior. Regarding Musk specifically, I have seen no evidence of any kind that he is "pro" anything other than his own self interest. Like Trump, he is a man without principles, religious or otherwise. > The most anti-Jew people I encounter are hardcore leftists and atheists What specifically did they do to make you think that? Did they criticize Israel? EDIT: how fitting that besides coming to HN to defend a fascist billionaire, you are also promoting a crypto scam. That tells me everything about your ethics and political alignment.
        Dylan16807 8mo ago

boca_honey 8mo ago

I'm not sure if you have experience with teenagers, but you’ll quickly realize they are even more resistant to this technology than we ever were. For the vast majority of kids today, this is their worst nightmare. They will reject it even more forcefully than we have.

xboxnolifes 8mo ago
The teenagers I know willing put geo-tracking software on their phones to see where their friends are at any time.
- boca_honey 8mo ago
  Yeah, and that's consensual. Being recorded by some creep with cringe VR glasses is nothing like that.
duskdozer 8mo ago
Really? The ones living on tiktok?
- boca_honey 8mo ago
  Don't be dense. They control what they upload to social media and they mostly do it within closed circles (close friends, etc). Being recorded without consent is another story.
- nkrisc 8mo ago
  Yes, they’re the ones afraid of some creep surreptitiously recording them and posting it on TikTok.

pibaker 8mo ago

Even in an environment where filming (with phones) is common and acceptable, smart glasses can still come off as rude because others find it hard tell if you are recording or not. To record a video on your phone you need to hold your phone up pointed at the other person, usually not in the same way you would normally use a phone. If you see someone holding his phone steady at face level and pointing at something without making finger movements, you know he is filming. If someone is pointing his phone down towards the ground and scrolling around with his thumb, you know he is probably not. To record from a pair of smart glasses you just need to look at someone, as you would normally look at any other thing. Yes there will be an LED on, but the person being recorded probably couldn't see it if it is in a bright, busy environment and you are more than a few steps away, plus there will be aftermarket modifications to disable the LED. In short, there is no way you can reliably tell if someone's smart glasses are filming you. You have to assume that worst.

alwa 8mo ago

And yet, the New York Times reports that all the hottest clubs are banning phones on the dance floor. Perhaps in reaction to having lived the downsides of omnipresent social surveillance, the youngest adults in my life are uniformly sober about the perils of oversharing. Then again, there may be some selection bias at play… https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/nyregion/nyc-nightlife-no-phones.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/nyregion/nyc-nightlife-no...

wolvoleo 8mo ago
Yes here in Europe too. I really love this. You can keep your phone here but the cameras are taped off. Of course that can easily be undone but it avoids the "oh sorry I forgot it wasn't allowed" excuse.

designerarvid 8mo ago

In Sweden, kids have stopped showering after PE class due to this concern. The world is not deterministic, and we can shape norms of how we interact with each other. We don't have to accept being constantly recorded just because the technology makes it possible.