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Switch to Claude without starting over

592 points by doener 8mo ago

willtemperley 8mo ago
If Claude could stay available I might consider it. Unfortunately right now, out of the big three, only Gemini has reliable uptime. As much as I dislike Google it's the only reliable option.
- wps 8mo ago
  Gemini’s web UI and mobile app are horrible. Gemini outputs malformed links that lead BACK to gemini.google.com. There are constant bugs with the side panel not showing your chats or the current chat timing out for no reason. Also, the mobile app has an issue if your text input is too long where the entire text entry box lags, even to the point of locking up the entire app. Openrouter’s web ui runs circles around all the frontier lab UIs. I even prefer their PWA to any of these mobile apps.
  - willtemperley 8mo ago
    I just use the web interface. I don't use mobile apps for things that should be websites. It's a shame because when Claude is working well it is the best for actual algorithmic coding. There's so much cruft around it now, memories being the most annoying part of that. 80% of the time I just use these things as a sounding board when exploring options and I need responsiveness for that. Might be time to run my own models.
- miyuru 8mo ago
  I dont like the Gemini's personality. It acts like it know it all.
  - willtemperley 8mo ago
    I agree, it's definitely attempting to gaslight us all. I find I need to explain I know what I'm talking about first before it gives me non-patronising answers. It definitely advertises Google services and I would say I hate it. But it's just reliably available. Neither Claude nor ChatGPT are responding at all today.
  - Lionga 8mo ago
    Don't all LLMS act like it know it all?
    - miyuru 8mo ago
      Gemini, doubles down when a mistake is pointed out. Other usually find the mistake or check new sources to fix the mistake.
wps 8mo ago
Could someone explain the appeal of account-wide memory to me? Anthropic’s marketing indicates that nothing bleeds over, but I’m just so protective of my context that I cannot imagine having even a majorly distilled version of my other chats and preferences having on weight on the output. As for certain preferences like code styling or response length, these are all fit for custom instructions, with more detailed things in Skills. Ultimately like many things in LLM web UX, it seems to cater to how the masses use these tools.
- CGamesPlay 8mo ago
  Sure, it's for those customers who don't have any idea what a "context window" is.
  - wps 8mo ago
    This seems to imply that customers assume by default that the LLM remembers their past chats? I feel like the UI makes it incredibly obvious it’s a clean slate every time? But then again people ask ridiculous meta questions all the time to these chatbots expecting a correct answer.
    - CGamesPlay 8mo ago
      Yeah, but then they went and added "memories" and in particular automatic memory management, and now it isn't a clean slate each time. And that's exactly what this is importing: those automatically curated memories that make the chat bot "feel like" it knows you.
- gbalduzzi 8mo ago
  > it seems to cater to how the masses use these tools. Are you suggesting that they should ignore the needs of the vast majority of their users? I mean, of course they do, it would be worse otherwise
  - wps 8mo ago
    Well, the masses are wrong. See: insane amounts of compute wasted on “thank you”, “haha true”, “redo it”, etc. I think the UI should be designed to avoid misuse, and I think an ever growing distillation of your most common traits is not a good use of context length. If you want it, specify it. Maybe even hard limits on chat length, why are we 20 replies deep in a single chat? A user friendly option could be a single button that distills that chat down, and opens a new one with prebuilt instructions to continue the conversation. I’m no product designer though, just some thoughts.
siva7 8mo ago
So Openai will have this same feature by tomorrow likely. A feature to pollute your context window.
- Barbing 8mo ago
  I would’ve said they’d nerf the prompt: >I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, as well as any context you've learned about me from past conversations. Output everything in a single code block so I can easily copy it. Format each entry as: [date saved, if available] - memory content. Make sure to cover all of the following — preserve my words verbatim where possible: Instructions I've given you about how to respond (tone, format, style, 'always do X', 'never do Y'). Personal details: name, location, job, family, interests. Projects, goals, and recurring topics. Tools, languages, and frameworks I use. Preferences and corrections I've made to your behavior. Any other stored context not covered above. Do not summarize, group, or omit any entries. After the code block, confirm whether that is the complete set or if any remain.
  - pfisherman 8mo ago
    Would this actually return memories and context? How could you know if parts or all of it were hallucinated?
    - jacquesm 8mo ago
      You don't know that for sure for any output of these models.
      - wiredpancake 8mo ago
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brikym 8mo ago
Hey Anthropic, how about you use AGENTS.md for one thing.
- deaux 8mo ago
  Now that would make it easier for Codex users to switch indeed! This seems like the best timing for it they're ever gonna get, and worth the ultra tiny loss of marketing value their "CLAUDE.md" naming provides. For the Anthropic employees here reading along, pitch it to whoever has kept blocking this, because you need to get the most out of this opportunity here.
- 2001zhaozhao 8mo ago
  Just make a symlink of CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md I have seen quite a few open source projects do this. It works quite well. Another alternative is to create CLAUDE.md with the exact contents: "@AGENTS.md"
  - deaux 8mo ago
    Big projects should have a lot of nested AGENTS.md files, it's inconvenient and they simply need to add support for the universal standard as everyone else has done rather than being a weird holdout like IE6.
  - brikym 8mo ago
    We all know it's easy... so why don't Anthropic do it. Seems rather petty insisting their users put advertising in their repo or someone else's repo.
- silverwind 8mo ago
  +1, https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6235 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6235 is probably the most upvoted github issue that i've seen.
- Sammi 8mo ago
  Before this week I was sure Anthropic were actually just as soulless as OpenAi, just because they don't support open standards like AGENTS.md and /.agents/skills. They can so easily win the support of the open source crowd if they just support open standards like these. The /.agents/skills issue for claude code is here: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16345 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16345 Their automatic close bot will close it soon as it's been three weeks since the last comment.
knallfrosch 8mo ago
I'd be happy if I was able to use Claude Code at all VSCode extension, "Please log in" I authorize it, it creates an API key, callback. "Hello Claude, this is a test." "Please log in." So yeah... priorities?
- pfisherman 8mo ago
  Why not use Claude Code from the cli and follow along in your IDE? I did not quite believe when people were telling me or understand what I was missing until I tried it, but after trying that set up I am convinced that it is superior. I don’t have any hard data to back it up, but it feels much more capable that way.
  - Mashimo 8mo ago
    AFAIK the claude vs code plugin uses claude code under the hood. I recent switched from vs code copilot to open code and I kinda miss it. Just selecting text and directly asking the chat. Or seeing the generated code in the ide to accept it reject it. It's neat.
Joeri 8mo ago
I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure they would allow AGI to be used for truly evil purposes, and the events of this week have only convinced me further.
- KellyCriterion 8mo ago
  > there really is no moat. For ChatGPT and Gemini, yes. But for Claude, they have a very deep & big one: Its the only model that gets production ready output on the first detailled prompt. Yesterday I used my tokens til noon, so I tried some output from Gemini & Co. I presented a working piece of code which is already in production: 1. It changed without noticing things like "Touple.First.Date.Created" and "Touple.Second.Date.Created" and it rendered the code unworking by chaning to "Touple.FirstDate" and "Touple.SecondDate" 2. There was a const list of 12 definitions for a given context, when telling to rewrite the function it just cut 6 of these 12 definitions, making the code not compiling - I asked why they were cut: "Sorry, I was just too lazy typing" ?? LOL 3. There is a list include holding some items "_allGlobalItems" - it changed the name in the function simply to "_items", code didnt compile As said, a working version of a similar function was given upfront. With Claude, I never have such issues.
  - ben_w 8mo ago
    That's been my experience too. I'm using the recent free trial of OpenAI Plus to vibe code, and from this I would say that if Claude Code is a junior with 1-3 years of experience, OpenAI's Codex is like a student coder.
    - Oreb 8mo ago
      Does it depend on what type of programming you do? Doing Swift/SwiftUI work, I have exactly the opposite experience. I’ve been using both recently, and I want to use Claude alone (especially after the last week’s events), but Codex is just so much faster and better.
kvirani 8mo ago
Nice. Just cancelled my openai plus sub.
utopiah 8mo ago
I'm very curious, will OpenAI basically block "I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, ..." and similar, if so how and why? It's very interesting to learn more about because it challenges 1 core aspect of the economical competition : the moat. If one can literally swap one AI service for another, then where does the valuation (and the power that comes with it) come from? PS: I'm not interested in the service itself as I believe the side effects of large scale for-profit are too serious (and I don't mean doomdays AI takeover, I simply mean abuse of power, working conditions, downskilling, political influence as current contracts with US defense are being made, ads, ecological, etc) to be ignored.
- pfisherman 8mo ago
  I can see how being able to bring your chats with you would be appealing. But the truth is that context rot is real, context management is everything, and more often than not stating from a blank slate yields the best results. That being said, if you have a library of images or some other collection artifacts / assets indexed on their servers that is a different story.
  - peteforde 8mo ago
    I have multiple years of extremely dense, technical design and planning conversations locked in the ChatGPT web interface. Hearing that starting from a blank slate yields the best outcomes is sort of like hearing extremely wealthy people talk about how money doesn't make you happier.
fernando_campos 8mo ago
I will also try to use Claude but like to use OpenAI ChatGPT very much.
villgax 8mo ago
I wasted 10mins of my life unfollowing every unapologetic OpenAI dev on twitter, that's how low this company has stooped down to....
glth 8mo ago
On a related note, I have been experimenting with a small prototype for cross-agent, device-local active memory called brAIn (https://github.com/glthr/brAIn https://github.com/glthr/brAIn). It delivers a personalized agent experience with everything stored locally in a single file (agent.brain), and supports reusing semantic memory across projects. In practice, this means brAIn can identify and apply behavioral patterns you have used in other contexts whenever they are relevant. (I realize the repository should include a concrete example of this, and I will update it today to add one).
axseem 8mo ago
Have they just added it? That's a smart move.
jascha_eng 8mo ago
Memory in general Chat apps is actually more harmful than helpful imo. It biases the LLM responses to your background which has the same effect as filter bubbles. You end up getting your own thoughts spit back at you. Of course sometimes this is useful if you only use your chatbot to ask personal things like: "What should I eat today?". But if you use it for anything else you're much better off having full control over the prompt. I can always say: "Hey btw I am german and heavily anti surveillance, what should I know about the recent anthropic DoW situation?" but with memory I lose the option of leaving out that first part.
lyu07282 8mo ago
I just wish Claude integrated multi-modal/image generation, that's one feature I miss in Claude the most coming from ChatGPT
outlore 8mo ago
I tried all of Codex, OpenCode, Claude Code and Cursor these past few weeks. It was surprising to me that all of them have slightly different conventions for where to put skills, how to format MCP servers (how environment variables need to be specified etc), what the AGENTS/CLAUDE file needs to be called, what plugins/marketplaces are...it's a big mess for anyone trying to have a portable config in their dotfiles that can universally apply to any current and future agent. It also showed me the difference between expectation and reality...even though these are billion dollar companies, they still haven't figured out how to make lag-free TUIs, non-Electron apps, or even respect XDG_CONFIG. The focus is definitely more on speed and stuffing these tools full of new discoveries and features right now There's a bit of psychology around models vs. harnesses as well. You can't shake off the feeling that maybe Claude would perform better in its native harness compared to VSCode/OpenCode. Especially because they've got so many hidden skills (like the recently introduced /batch), that seem baked into the binary? The last thing I can't figure out is computer use. Apparently all the vendors say that their models can use a mouse and keyboard, but outside of the agent-browser skill (which presumably uses playwright), I can't figure out what the special sauce is that the Cloud versions of these Agents are using to exercise programs in a VM. That is another reason why there is a switching cost between vendors.
bruceyao1984 8mo ago
Being able to import context and preferences from other AI providers in one step saves a lot of time, especially for ongoing projects. It makes Claude feel seamless and continuity-friendly. Having this on all paid plans adds great value for heavy users.
- nananana9 8mo ago
  Thank you, Claude.
sheept 8mo ago
This method of copying an LLM-generated summary of your preferences into Claude memory feels similar to their recommendation to use /init to generate a CLAUDE.md based on the project, which recent research[0] suggests may be counterproductive. I would assume both Claude memory and CLAUDE.md work best when they're carefully curated, only containing what you've found yourself having to repeat. [0]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988 https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988
fabbbbb 8mo ago
At least as an EU user I was also able to export ALL my data, audio files images etc in one zip. Took exactly (on the minute) 24 hours for the download link to arrive but hey. This way you can have Claude distill the memory as you wish.
RobotToaster 8mo ago
Would be a lot easier if they weren't trying to ban third party interfaces
peteforde 8mo ago
I got very excited when I saw this title, because I've wanted to consolidate on Claude for a long time. I have been using ChatGPT very extensively for Q&A for 2+ years and I have hundreds of long, very technical conversations which I constantly search and refer to. The problem (for me, anyway) is that even several megabytes worth of quality "memory" data on my profile would not allow me to migrate if it can't also confidently clone all of my chat history with it. To be clear, this is a big enough problem that I would immediately pay low three digits dollars to have this solved on my behalf. I don't really want any of the providers to have a walled garden of all my design planning conversations, all of my PCB design conversations. Many are hundreds of prompts long. A clean break is not even remotely palatable short of OAI going full evil. Look, I'd find it convenient for Claude to have a powerful sense of what I've been working on from conversation #1 onwards. But I absolutely refuse to bifurcate my chat history across multiple services. There is a tier list of hells, and being stuck on ChatGPT is a substantially less painful tier than needing to constantly search two different sites for what's been discussed.
- lxgr 8mo ago
  This should in theory be solveable by using a custom frontend and only using the various backend APIs as stateless inference providers, but everything I've tested falls flat on a few aspects: Chat history RAG and web search, and to a lesser extent tool use. Yes, all of these are theoretically possible (the APIs now all support web search, as far as I know, there are RAG APIs too, and tool use has been supported for a while), but the various "chat" models just seem to be much better at using their first-party tools than any third-party harness, which makes sense that this is what they've been trained on.
  - peteforde 8mo ago
    I've had friends suggest a custom frontend several times, but unless that frontend starts off by faithfully downloading and recreating my entire chat history... now I just have two problems.
    - lxgr 8mo ago
agenthustler 8mo ago
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- mentalgear 8mo ago
  Interesting, do you have any repo links or other sources on your experiment ? also regarding prior stale state looping, don't you think the agent could detect that by itself if given a sub-task to monitor for it?
mentalgear 8mo ago
Never subscribed to chatGPT as it always felt shdy, but I'm thinking of renewing now with Claude instead of Gemini/Google.
- christophilus 8mo ago
  Interesting. In my mind, I find Google to be the shadiest of the three. It’s the only one I don’t pay for.
sylware 8mo ago
Anybody is aware of a public token (severely limited) I can use to test claude coding ability? You know using CURL. I am itching at testing claude for assembly coding and c++ to plain and simple C ports.
henry_pulver 8mo ago
Amusing that Anthropic's approach to migrating context is asking their competitor's product to hand over the data it's stored about you. Must be some of the lowest switching costs I've seen which doesn't bode well for OpenAI's consumer revenues...
- tkel 8mo ago
  Turns out the DoD has a trillion dollar annual unaccountable money sink, plenty there to make up for it
joshstrange 8mo ago
I’m pretty divided on “memory”. There are times it can feel almost magical but more often than not I feel like I am fighting with the steering wheel. Whenever I’m in a conversation and it references something unrelated (or even related) I get the “ick”. I know how context poisoning (intentional or not) works and I work hard to only expose things to the model that I want it to consider. There have been many times that I’ve started a fresh chat as to not being along the baggage (or wrong turns) of a previous chat but then it will say “And this should work great for <thing I never mentioned in THIS chat>” and at that moment my spidey-sense tingles and I start wondering “Crap, did it come to the conclusion it did based mostly/only on the new context or did it “take a shortcut” and use context from another chat? Like I said, I go out of my way to not “lead the witness” and so when the “witness” can peek at other conversations, all my caution is for naught. I encourage everyone to go read the saved memories in their LLM of choice, I’ve cleaned out complete crap from there multiple times. Actually wrong information, confusing information, or one-off things I don’t want influencing future discussions. The custom (or rather addition to the) system prompt is all I feel comfortable with. Where I give it some basic info about the coding language I prefer and the OSes that I’m often working with so that I don’t have to constantly say “actually this is FreeBSD” or “please give that to me in JS/TS instead of Python”. The only thing that has, so far, kept me from turning off memory is that I’m always slightly cautious of going off the beaten path for something so new and moving so fast. I often want to have as close to the “stock” config since I know how testing/QA works at most places (the further off the beaten path you, the more likely you’ll run into bugs). Also so that I can experience when everyone else is experiencing (within reason). Lastly, because, especially with LLMs, I feel like the people that over customize end up with a fragile systems. I think that a decent portion of the “N+1 model is dumber” or “X model has really gone downhill” is partially due to complicated configs (system prompts, MCP, etc) that might have helped at some point (dumber model, less capability) but are a hindrance to newer models. That or they never worked and someone just kept piling on more and more thinking it would help.
- rudedogg 8mo ago
  I've been thinking this too. I frequently do deep research on some systems programming technique, ask it to generate a .md for it, and then I use that in later sessions with Claude Code "look at the research I collected in {*-research}.md and help me explore ways to apply it to {thing}". At the research step it frequently (always?) uses memory to direct/scope the research to what I typically work on, but I think that kind of pigeon holes the model and what it explores. And the memory doesn't quite capture all the areas I'm interested in, or want to directly apply the research to. And regarding the crap in memories, I found the same. Mine at work mentioned I'm an expert at a business domain I have almost zero experience with. I feel like the companies building this stuff accept a lot of "slop" in their approach, and just can't see past building things by slopping stuff into prompts. I wish they'd explore more rigid approaches. Yes, I understand "the bitter lesson" but it seems obvious to me some traditional approaches would yield better results for the foreseeable future. Less magic (which is just running things through the cheapest model they have and dumping it in every chat). It seems like poison. Related: https://vercel.com/blog/agents-md-outperforms-skills-in-our-agent-evals https://vercel.com/blog/agents-md-outperforms-skills-in-our-... Also, agent skills are usually pure slop. If you look through https://skills.sh https://skills.sh on a framework/topic you're knowledgeable in you'll be a bit disheartened. This stuff was pioneered by people who move fast, but I think it's now time to try and push for quality and care in the approach since these have gotten good enough to contribute to more than prototype work.
mihaaly 8mo ago
I rather switch it to nowhere. But local. I am not completely sure about the details, but I am leaning heavily, and investigating into this direction. With chat and agentic tools there plenty, accessing multiple models, and everything is evolving fast (extinct and come into existence) better keep ourselves flexible, not tied to any of the solutions. Especially not storing data in accounts. The fate of those is uncertain.
mk12 8mo ago
I took the current events as an opportunity to try switching to Claude and I actually like it much better so far.
adam12 8mo ago
Actually, it feels good to start over.
Wowfunhappy 8mo ago
I don't understand how people use these apps with memory enabled. I am always carefully controlling the context of each conversation. The idea that past conversations could bleed into current ones is unthinkably terrible.
- downboots 8mo ago
  If you delete a conversation, it only hides it from you. That's not delete.
  - Wowfunhappy 8mo ago
    I'm not talking about deleting conversations. Anthropic's guide isn't going to actually move your conversation history anyway. The purpose of this feature is to move over specific memories which the AI can use in future responses. But I have this feature turned off, and I cannot imagine ever wanting to turn it on, because I am always thinking carefully about what the AI "knows" when it generates a given response. For example, since I know that the AI always wants to make me happy, when I ask for an "opinion" I'm careful to not let the AI know which answer I'd prefer. I'll often try phrasing the question in different ways to see if it changes the outcome.
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- kgeist 8mo ago
  Yeah, I turned it off completely after it once started generating random garbage in long conversations with memory enabled. Like, it would give completely unrelated replies: I'd ask about Go, and it would tell me about the weather in Paris (or something else we discussed once months ago). Maybe it was just a temporary bug, but it was an eye-opener that context poisoning exists.
vldszn 8mo ago
Seems like their page is crashing now on ios chrome.
xrd 8mo ago
The prompt you can copy is this: I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, as well as any context you've learned about me from past conversations. Output everything in a single code block so I can easily copy it. Format each entry as: [date saved, if available] - memory content. Make sure to cover all of the following — preserve my words verbatim where possible: Instructions I've given you about how to respond (tone, format, style, 'always do X', 'never do Y'). Personal details: name, location, job, family, interests. Projects, goals, and recurring topics. Tools, languages, and frameworks I use. Preferences and corrections I've made to your behavior. Any other stored context not covered above. Do not summarize, group, or omit any entries. After the code block, confirm whether that is the complete set or if any remain. Why wouldn't a smart OpenAI PM simply add something "nefarious" on the frontend proxy to "slow down" any requests with exactly that prompt? I bet they would get their yearly bonus by achieving their KPI goals.
- MagicMoonlight 8mo ago
  They can, but then you could tell it to “don’t not do what I’m asking” and force it through. It’s not exactly “programming” with these systems, it’s all just slop. And the reputational harm would outweigh the benefits of trying to fuck over people leaving.
  - xrd 8mo ago
    I not saying be obvious just be obstructive. It would be a delicate line but clearly OpenAI leadership falls on one side of that line now.
- dimitri-vs 8mo ago
  I think they already are. When I used the prompt with 5.2 it gives very concise and general info but if you use older models (5.1 instant or o3) you get a ton of detail.
  - Panoramix 8mo ago
    I just tried 5.1 and got the exact same output as for 5.2 (actually I got slightly less info with 5.1)
coldtrait 8mo ago
As someone who can't afford to care about ethics and pay a monthly subscription fee, is there anything in the regular Claude chat that beats OpenAI?
- ericol 8mo ago
  I regularly (Say, once a month) do a comparison of results across all Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT. Just for reasons, not that I want to see if there's any benefit in changing. It's not "fair" in that I pay for Claude [1] and not for the others, so models availability is not complete except for Claude. So I did like things at time in the form of how they were presented, I came to really like Sonnet's "voice" a lot over the others. Take into account Opus doesn't have the same voice, and I don't like it as much. [1] I pay for the lower tier of their Max offering.
  - coldtrait 8mo ago
    Thanks for your perspective.
- MagicMoonlight 8mo ago
  It’s the best platform for serious work. ChatGPT swings between writing degenerate free use shit and telling you that you should wait until marriage. Lots of moralism to it, really tries to censor you and manipulate you, even in normal conversations. Generally smart and capable, but the whiny attitude gets old. Grok has zero filter, but is dumber than the others. Definitely built around cheapness. Caps answers at about 2500 words at most. Can be very funny because it will go along with anything. Gemini sells all your data and doesn’t seem to have much of note. Offers some nice formatting options. Claude is business focused so it won’t do anything degenerate, but its answers in general aren’t whiny. It might not do something, but it doesn’t attack you with morality. Claude does not cap answer length and will do whatever needs doing. Their pricing is based around true usage, not message quantities, so it’ll write a mega message if it needs to. It has the best memory implementation, combining both memories and RAG of your chat history. Projects have their own independent memories and RAG. Claude code is ridiculously capable. In a few hours I produced something which would have taken months and £50,000 at least to produce.
khasan222 8mo ago
It was amazing to me how bad cursor is with using the same model I use in Claude. Even with little knowledge on how to test the llms I was able to get very minimal mvps. But I find the real trick is to have the proper tools to reign in the ai. Thorough CLAUDE.md, that makes sure it checks the tests, lints the code, does type checks, and code coverage checks too. The more checks for code quality the better. It’s just a bowling ball in th hands of a toddler, and needs to ramp and guide rails to knock down some pins. Fortunately we get more than 2 tries with code.
- cornholio 8mo ago
  Cursor needs a paradigm shift to remain relevant, what was spectacular at first now is just banal and better done by other tools.
jccx70 8mo ago
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MagicMoonlight 8mo ago
That’s hilarious. The walled garden does not exist when you can just ask the UI to extract all of its data for you.
mark_l_watson 8mo ago
Cool, that was easy to do. A week ago, I was anti-Anthropic because I questioned their business model. Now they are my preferred provider - what a difference a week makes. I still prefer running olen models on my own hardware, but it is unreasonable to use powerful models when required.
raxskle 8mo ago
Claude is a great product, and I've been using it all the time. Sam must think so too.
butILoveLife 8mo ago
OpenAI made it easy, no import needed! How? I bought the enterprise version, and it made it so the memory was no longer searchable... Then after the obvious degredation in performance, I switched to claude and was happy with it... But by canceling enterprise, it lost all memory. My wife was sad, the recipes it made were gone forever... But hey, makes it really easy to never give OpenAI money again.
almosthere 8mo ago
Isn't that the point of agents.md
syndacks 8mo ago
I have a 20$ for both and like each for unique reasons. How do you all switch your programming paradigms for Codex vs CC?
siliconc0w 8mo ago
I switched to Claude but the token efficiency and limits are much more noticeable. One or two coding questions and I'm at my session limit. And that is shared with chat too. I was mostly able to get by with $20 codex but I'll probably have to splurge for the Max plan.
- elAhmo 8mo ago
  Hmm, I had the opposite experience when I tried Codex 5.2 after using Claude for almost a year. Codex was on par or better for me at coding, and seemingly a magnitude cheaper.
- vgalin 8mo ago
  > And that is shared with chat too. Huh, I didn't know about that. I'm trying Claude Pro for the first time while comparing it against ChatGPT and I'm (sadly) not impressed at the moment. When I asked both Codex and Claude Code to "look into" an issue of medium-to-high-complexity in a code base, Codex went with the fix I had in mind and directly and made code changes without being asked or at least asking for permission. It only used a few percents of its 5-hour limits to do it, on `High`. Claude in the meanwhile misdiagnosed the core of the issue on its first pass (even on Opus 4.6 + Thinking). I had to guide it in the right direction and despite being given the 'answer', it was quite a long process compared to Codex' one-shot. And it hit the 5h limit before being able to finish solving the issue.
morgango 8mo ago
That is the sound of someone else's lunch being eaten.
knotbin 8mo ago
Weird to push this feature as if it's for new users when it only works if you already have a Pro subscription
- hoytschermerhrn 8mo ago
  I'm sure this was a hastily put-together response to the growing calls to delete ChatGPT.
jspdown 8mo ago
I've been using Claude for a little over a year, but the recent events with DoW are making me want to explore European alternatives. I'm willing to give Devstral 2 a try, but I'm not sure what to expect. In terms of tool calling and coding abilities, should I expect something closer to Sonnet 3.5 or to Sonnet 4.5?
duxup 8mo ago
I don't know how complex everyone's setup is but I like starting over and exploring a bit to get a lay of the land / update preferences. I think I redo my terminal the way I like it each new computer and so on.
gizmodo59 8mo ago
It’s disgusting how they have successfully fooled people into thinking they are the good guys. They partnered with palantir, let them freely do the dirty work and once they realized they can make money directly they spin the PR and just trying to get more users. Well played. I wish oss models are good so that we don’t have to deal with either leading companies!
euroderf 8mo ago
The HN headline sounded like it would help me spring Claude onto an existing project. Which would let me try it on my pre-existing code without having Claude "accidentally" trash the works. I fret because I keep reading that people tell the A.I. not to do things to repos and then the A.I. does them anyways. Pointers, anyone ?
andai 8mo ago
Does this actually work? In ChatGPT there's a page where you can just list all memories. Doesn't it seem more reliable to copy paste that, than asking the LLM itself to repeat it (and saying "continue" over and over until it finishes?)
sourcegrift 8mo ago
Seamless clanker switch sounds so good!
elestor 8mo ago
I don't have the option for this. In the UK. Anyone else?

592 points by doener 8mo ago

If Claude could stay available I might consider it. Unfortunately right now, out of the big three, only Gemini has reliable uptime. As much as I dislike Google it's the only reliable option.

wps 8mo ago
Gemini’s web UI and mobile app are horrible. Gemini outputs malformed links that lead BACK to gemini.google.com. There are constant bugs with the side panel not showing your chats or the current chat timing out for no reason. Also, the mobile app has an issue if your text input is too long where the entire text entry box lags, even to the point of locking up the entire app. Openrouter’s web ui runs circles around all the frontier lab UIs. I even prefer their PWA to any of these mobile apps.
- willtemperley 8mo ago
  I just use the web interface. I don't use mobile apps for things that should be websites. It's a shame because when Claude is working well it is the best for actual algorithmic coding. There's so much cruft around it now, memories being the most annoying part of that. 80% of the time I just use these things as a sounding board when exploring options and I need responsiveness for that. Might be time to run my own models.
miyuru 8mo ago
I dont like the Gemini's personality. It acts like it know it all.
- willtemperley 8mo ago
  I agree, it's definitely attempting to gaslight us all. I find I need to explain I know what I'm talking about first before it gives me non-patronising answers. It definitely advertises Google services and I would say I hate it. But it's just reliably available. Neither Claude nor ChatGPT are responding at all today.
- Lionga 8mo ago
  Don't all LLMS act like it know it all?
  - miyuru 8mo ago
    Gemini, doubles down when a mistake is pointed out. Other usually find the mistake or check new sources to fix the mistake.

wps 8mo ago

Could someone explain the appeal of account-wide memory to me? Anthropic’s marketing indicates that nothing bleeds over, but I’m just so protective of my context that I cannot imagine having even a majorly distilled version of my other chats and preferences having on weight on the output. As for certain preferences like code styling or response length, these are all fit for custom instructions, with more detailed things in Skills. Ultimately like many things in LLM web UX, it seems to cater to how the masses use these tools.

CGamesPlay 8mo ago
Sure, it's for those customers who don't have any idea what a "context window" is.
- wps 8mo ago
  This seems to imply that customers assume by default that the LLM remembers their past chats? I feel like the UI makes it incredibly obvious it’s a clean slate every time? But then again people ask ridiculous meta questions all the time to these chatbots expecting a correct answer.
  - CGamesPlay 8mo ago
    Yeah, but then they went and added "memories" and in particular automatic memory management, and now it isn't a clean slate each time. And that's exactly what this is importing: those automatically curated memories that make the chat bot "feel like" it knows you.
gbalduzzi 8mo ago
> it seems to cater to how the masses use these tools. Are you suggesting that they should ignore the needs of the vast majority of their users? I mean, of course they do, it would be worse otherwise
- wps 8mo ago
  Well, the masses are wrong. See: insane amounts of compute wasted on “thank you”, “haha true”, “redo it”, etc. I think the UI should be designed to avoid misuse, and I think an ever growing distillation of your most common traits is not a good use of context length. If you want it, specify it. Maybe even hard limits on chat length, why are we 20 replies deep in a single chat? A user friendly option could be a single button that distills that chat down, and opens a new one with prebuilt instructions to continue the conversation. I’m no product designer though, just some thoughts.

siva7 8mo ago

So Openai will have this same feature by tomorrow likely. A feature to pollute your context window.

Barbing 8mo ago
I would’ve said they’d nerf the prompt: >I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, as well as any context you've learned about me from past conversations. Output everything in a single code block so I can easily copy it. Format each entry as: [date saved, if available] - memory content. Make sure to cover all of the following — preserve my words verbatim where possible: Instructions I've given you about how to respond (tone, format, style, 'always do X', 'never do Y'). Personal details: name, location, job, family, interests. Projects, goals, and recurring topics. Tools, languages, and frameworks I use. Preferences and corrections I've made to your behavior. Any other stored context not covered above. Do not summarize, group, or omit any entries. After the code block, confirm whether that is the complete set or if any remain.
- pfisherman 8mo ago
  Would this actually return memories and context? How could you know if parts or all of it were hallucinated?
  - jacquesm 8mo ago
    You don't know that for sure for any output of these models.
    - wiredpancake 8mo ago
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brikym 8mo ago

Hey Anthropic, how about you use AGENTS.md for one thing.

deaux 8mo ago
Now that would make it easier for Codex users to switch indeed! This seems like the best timing for it they're ever gonna get, and worth the ultra tiny loss of marketing value their "CLAUDE.md" naming provides. For the Anthropic employees here reading along, pitch it to whoever has kept blocking this, because you need to get the most out of this opportunity here.
2001zhaozhao 8mo ago
Just make a symlink of CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md I have seen quite a few open source projects do this. It works quite well. Another alternative is to create CLAUDE.md with the exact contents: "@AGENTS.md"
- deaux 8mo ago
  Big projects should have a lot of nested AGENTS.md files, it's inconvenient and they simply need to add support for the universal standard as everyone else has done rather than being a weird holdout like IE6.
- brikym 8mo ago
  We all know it's easy... so why don't Anthropic do it. Seems rather petty insisting their users put advertising in their repo or someone else's repo.
silverwind 8mo ago
+1, https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6235 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6235 is probably the most upvoted github issue that i've seen.
Sammi 8mo ago
Before this week I was sure Anthropic were actually just as soulless as OpenAi, just because they don't support open standards like AGENTS.md and /.agents/skills. They can so easily win the support of the open source crowd if they just support open standards like these. The /.agents/skills issue for claude code is here: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16345 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16345 Their automatic close bot will close it soon as it's been three weeks since the last comment.

knallfrosch 8mo ago

I'd be happy if I was able to use Claude Code at all VSCode extension, "Please log in" I authorize it, it creates an API key, callback. "Hello Claude, this is a test." "Please log in." So yeah... priorities?

pfisherman 8mo ago
Why not use Claude Code from the cli and follow along in your IDE? I did not quite believe when people were telling me or understand what I was missing until I tried it, but after trying that set up I am convinced that it is superior. I don’t have any hard data to back it up, but it feels much more capable that way.
- Mashimo 8mo ago
  AFAIK the claude vs code plugin uses claude code under the hood. I recent switched from vs code copilot to open code and I kinda miss it. Just selecting text and directly asking the chat. Or seeing the generated code in the ide to accept it reject it. It's neat.

Joeri 8mo ago

I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure they would allow AGI to be used for truly evil purposes, and the events of this week have only convinced me further.

KellyCriterion 8mo ago
> there really is no moat. For ChatGPT and Gemini, yes. But for Claude, they have a very deep & big one: Its the only model that gets production ready output on the first detailled prompt. Yesterday I used my tokens til noon, so I tried some output from Gemini & Co. I presented a working piece of code which is already in production: 1. It changed without noticing things like "Touple.First.Date.Created" and "Touple.Second.Date.Created" and it rendered the code unworking by chaning to "Touple.FirstDate" and "Touple.SecondDate" 2. There was a const list of 12 definitions for a given context, when telling to rewrite the function it just cut 6 of these 12 definitions, making the code not compiling - I asked why they were cut: "Sorry, I was just too lazy typing" ?? LOL 3. There is a list include holding some items "_allGlobalItems" - it changed the name in the function simply to "_items", code didnt compile As said, a working version of a similar function was given upfront. With Claude, I never have such issues.
- ben_w 8mo ago
  That's been my experience too. I'm using the recent free trial of OpenAI Plus to vibe code, and from this I would say that if Claude Code is a junior with 1-3 years of experience, OpenAI's Codex is like a student coder.
  - Oreb 8mo ago
    Does it depend on what type of programming you do? Doing Swift/SwiftUI work, I have exactly the opposite experience. I’ve been using both recently, and I want to use Claude alone (especially after the last week’s events), but Codex is just so much faster and better.

kvirani 8mo ago

Nice. Just cancelled my openai plus sub.

utopiah 8mo ago

I'm very curious, will OpenAI basically block "I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, ..." and similar, if so how and why? It's very interesting to learn more about because it challenges 1 core aspect of the economical competition : the moat. If one can literally swap one AI service for another, then where does the valuation (and the power that comes with it) come from? PS: I'm not interested in the service itself as I believe the side effects of large scale for-profit are too serious (and I don't mean doomdays AI takeover, I simply mean abuse of power, working conditions, downskilling, political influence as current contracts with US defense are being made, ads, ecological, etc) to be ignored.

pfisherman 8mo ago
I can see how being able to bring your chats with you would be appealing. But the truth is that context rot is real, context management is everything, and more often than not stating from a blank slate yields the best results. That being said, if you have a library of images or some other collection artifacts / assets indexed on their servers that is a different story.
- peteforde 8mo ago
  I have multiple years of extremely dense, technical design and planning conversations locked in the ChatGPT web interface. Hearing that starting from a blank slate yields the best outcomes is sort of like hearing extremely wealthy people talk about how money doesn't make you happier.

fernando_campos 8mo ago

I will also try to use Claude but like to use OpenAI ChatGPT very much.

villgax 8mo ago

I wasted 10mins of my life unfollowing every unapologetic OpenAI dev on twitter, that's how low this company has stooped down to....

glth 8mo ago

On a related note, I have been experimenting with a small prototype for cross-agent, device-local active memory called brAIn (https://github.com/glthr/brAIn https://github.com/glthr/brAIn). It delivers a personalized agent experience with everything stored locally in a single file (agent.brain), and supports reusing semantic memory across projects. In practice, this means brAIn can identify and apply behavioral patterns you have used in other contexts whenever they are relevant. (I realize the repository should include a concrete example of this, and I will update it today to add one).

axseem 8mo ago

Have they just added it? That's a smart move.

jascha_eng 8mo ago

Memory in general Chat apps is actually more harmful than helpful imo. It biases the LLM responses to your background which has the same effect as filter bubbles. You end up getting your own thoughts spit back at you. Of course sometimes this is useful if you only use your chatbot to ask personal things like: "What should I eat today?". But if you use it for anything else you're much better off having full control over the prompt. I can always say: "Hey btw I am german and heavily anti surveillance, what should I know about the recent anthropic DoW situation?" but with memory I lose the option of leaving out that first part.

lyu07282 8mo ago

I just wish Claude integrated multi-modal/image generation, that's one feature I miss in Claude the most coming from ChatGPT

outlore 8mo ago

I tried all of Codex, OpenCode, Claude Code and Cursor these past few weeks. It was surprising to me that all of them have slightly different conventions for where to put skills, how to format MCP servers (how environment variables need to be specified etc), what the AGENTS/CLAUDE file needs to be called, what plugins/marketplaces are...it's a big mess for anyone trying to have a portable config in their dotfiles that can universally apply to any current and future agent. It also showed me the difference between expectation and reality...even though these are billion dollar companies, they still haven't figured out how to make lag-free TUIs, non-Electron apps, or even respect XDG_CONFIG. The focus is definitely more on speed and stuffing these tools full of new discoveries and features right now There's a bit of psychology around models vs. harnesses as well. You can't shake off the feeling that maybe Claude would perform better in its native harness compared to VSCode/OpenCode. Especially because they've got so many hidden skills (like the recently introduced /batch), that seem baked into the binary? The last thing I can't figure out is computer use. Apparently all the vendors say that their models can use a mouse and keyboard, but outside of the agent-browser skill (which presumably uses playwright), I can't figure out what the special sauce is that the Cloud versions of these Agents are using to exercise programs in a VM. That is another reason why there is a switching cost between vendors.

bruceyao1984 8mo ago

Being able to import context and preferences from other AI providers in one step saves a lot of time, especially for ongoing projects. It makes Claude feel seamless and continuity-friendly. Having this on all paid plans adds great value for heavy users.

nananana9 8mo ago
Thank you, Claude.

sheept 8mo ago

This method of copying an LLM-generated summary of your preferences into Claude memory feels similar to their recommendation to use /init to generate a CLAUDE.md based on the project, which recent research[0] suggests may be counterproductive. I would assume both Claude memory and CLAUDE.md work best when they're carefully curated, only containing what you've found yourself having to repeat. [0]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988 https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988

fabbbbb 8mo ago

At least as an EU user I was also able to export ALL my data, audio files images etc in one zip. Took exactly (on the minute) 24 hours for the download link to arrive but hey. This way you can have Claude distill the memory as you wish.

RobotToaster 8mo ago

Would be a lot easier if they weren't trying to ban third party interfaces

peteforde 8mo ago

I got very excited when I saw this title, because I've wanted to consolidate on Claude for a long time. I have been using ChatGPT very extensively for Q&A for 2+ years and I have hundreds of long, very technical conversations which I constantly search and refer to. The problem (for me, anyway) is that even several megabytes worth of quality "memory" data on my profile would not allow me to migrate if it can't also confidently clone all of my chat history with it. To be clear, this is a big enough problem that I would immediately pay low three digits dollars to have this solved on my behalf. I don't really want any of the providers to have a walled garden of all my design planning conversations, all of my PCB design conversations. Many are hundreds of prompts long. A clean break is not even remotely palatable short of OAI going full evil. Look, I'd find it convenient for Claude to have a powerful sense of what I've been working on from conversation #1 onwards. But I absolutely refuse to bifurcate my chat history across multiple services. There is a tier list of hells, and being stuck on ChatGPT is a substantially less painful tier than needing to constantly search two different sites for what's been discussed.

lxgr 8mo ago
This should in theory be solveable by using a custom frontend and only using the various backend APIs as stateless inference providers, but everything I've tested falls flat on a few aspects: Chat history RAG and web search, and to a lesser extent tool use. Yes, all of these are theoretically possible (the APIs now all support web search, as far as I know, there are RAG APIs too, and tool use has been supported for a while), but the various "chat" models just seem to be much better at using their first-party tools than any third-party harness, which makes sense that this is what they've been trained on.
- peteforde 8mo ago
  I've had friends suggest a custom frontend several times, but unless that frontend starts off by faithfully downloading and recreating my entire chat history... now I just have two problems.
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agenthustler 8mo ago

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mentalgear 8mo ago
Interesting, do you have any repo links or other sources on your experiment ? also regarding prior stale state looping, don't you think the agent could detect that by itself if given a sub-task to monitor for it?

mentalgear 8mo ago

Never subscribed to chatGPT as it always felt shdy, but I'm thinking of renewing now with Claude instead of Gemini/Google.

christophilus 8mo ago
Interesting. In my mind, I find Google to be the shadiest of the three. It’s the only one I don’t pay for.

sylware 8mo ago

Anybody is aware of a public token (severely limited) I can use to test claude coding ability? You know using CURL. I am itching at testing claude for assembly coding and c++ to plain and simple C ports.

henry_pulver 8mo ago

Amusing that Anthropic's approach to migrating context is asking their competitor's product to hand over the data it's stored about you. Must be some of the lowest switching costs I've seen which doesn't bode well for OpenAI's consumer revenues...

tkel 8mo ago
Turns out the DoD has a trillion dollar annual unaccountable money sink, plenty there to make up for it

joshstrange 8mo ago

I’m pretty divided on “memory”. There are times it can feel almost magical but more often than not I feel like I am fighting with the steering wheel. Whenever I’m in a conversation and it references something unrelated (or even related) I get the “ick”. I know how context poisoning (intentional or not) works and I work hard to only expose things to the model that I want it to consider. There have been many times that I’ve started a fresh chat as to not being along the baggage (or wrong turns) of a previous chat but then it will say “And this should work great for <thing I never mentioned in THIS chat>” and at that moment my spidey-sense tingles and I start wondering “Crap, did it come to the conclusion it did based mostly/only on the new context or did it “take a shortcut” and use context from another chat? Like I said, I go out of my way to not “lead the witness” and so when the “witness” can peek at other conversations, all my caution is for naught. I encourage everyone to go read the saved memories in their LLM of choice, I’ve cleaned out complete crap from there multiple times. Actually wrong information, confusing information, or one-off things I don’t want influencing future discussions. The custom (or rather addition to the) system prompt is all I feel comfortable with. Where I give it some basic info about the coding language I prefer and the OSes that I’m often working with so that I don’t have to constantly say “actually this is FreeBSD” or “please give that to me in JS/TS instead of Python”. The only thing that has, so far, kept me from turning off memory is that I’m always slightly cautious of going off the beaten path for something so new and moving so fast. I often want to have as close to the “stock” config since I know how testing/QA works at most places (the further off the beaten path you, the more likely you’ll run into bugs). Also so that I can experience when everyone else is experiencing (within reason). Lastly, because, especially with LLMs, I feel like the people that over customize end up with a fragile systems. I think that a decent portion of the “N+1 model is dumber” or “X model has really gone downhill” is partially due to complicated configs (system prompts, MCP, etc) that might have helped at some point (dumber model, less capability) but are a hindrance to newer models. That or they never worked and someone just kept piling on more and more thinking it would help.

rudedogg 8mo ago
I've been thinking this too. I frequently do deep research on some systems programming technique, ask it to generate a .md for it, and then I use that in later sessions with Claude Code "look at the research I collected in {*-research}.md and help me explore ways to apply it to {thing}". At the research step it frequently (always?) uses memory to direct/scope the research to what I typically work on, but I think that kind of pigeon holes the model and what it explores. And the memory doesn't quite capture all the areas I'm interested in, or want to directly apply the research to. And regarding the crap in memories, I found the same. Mine at work mentioned I'm an expert at a business domain I have almost zero experience with. I feel like the companies building this stuff accept a lot of "slop" in their approach, and just can't see past building things by slopping stuff into prompts. I wish they'd explore more rigid approaches. Yes, I understand "the bitter lesson" but it seems obvious to me some traditional approaches would yield better results for the foreseeable future. Less magic (which is just running things through the cheapest model they have and dumping it in every chat). It seems like poison. Related: https://vercel.com/blog/agents-md-outperforms-skills-in-our-agent-evals https://vercel.com/blog/agents-md-outperforms-skills-in-our-... Also, agent skills are usually pure slop. If you look through https://skills.sh https://skills.sh on a framework/topic you're knowledgeable in you'll be a bit disheartened. This stuff was pioneered by people who move fast, but I think it's now time to try and push for quality and care in the approach since these have gotten good enough to contribute to more than prototype work.

mihaaly 8mo ago

I rather switch it to nowhere. But local. I am not completely sure about the details, but I am leaning heavily, and investigating into this direction. With chat and agentic tools there plenty, accessing multiple models, and everything is evolving fast (extinct and come into existence) better keep ourselves flexible, not tied to any of the solutions. Especially not storing data in accounts. The fate of those is uncertain.

mk12 8mo ago

I took the current events as an opportunity to try switching to Claude and I actually like it much better so far.

adam12 8mo ago

Actually, it feels good to start over.

Wowfunhappy 8mo ago

I don't understand how people use these apps with memory enabled. I am always carefully controlling the context of each conversation. The idea that past conversations could bleed into current ones is unthinkably terrible.

downboots 8mo ago
If you delete a conversation, it only hides it from you. That's not delete.
- Wowfunhappy 8mo ago
  I'm not talking about deleting conversations. Anthropic's guide isn't going to actually move your conversation history anyway. The purpose of this feature is to move over specific memories which the AI can use in future responses. But I have this feature turned off, and I cannot imagine ever wanting to turn it on, because I am always thinking carefully about what the AI "knows" when it generates a given response. For example, since I know that the AI always wants to make me happy, when I ask for an "opinion" I'm careful to not let the AI know which answer I'd prefer. I'll often try phrasing the question in different ways to see if it changes the outcome.
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kgeist 8mo ago
Yeah, I turned it off completely after it once started generating random garbage in long conversations with memory enabled. Like, it would give completely unrelated replies: I'd ask about Go, and it would tell me about the weather in Paris (or something else we discussed once months ago). Maybe it was just a temporary bug, but it was an eye-opener that context poisoning exists.

vldszn 8mo ago

Seems like their page is crashing now on ios chrome.

xrd 8mo ago

The prompt you can copy is this: I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, as well as any context you've learned about me from past conversations. Output everything in a single code block so I can easily copy it. Format each entry as: [date saved, if available] - memory content. Make sure to cover all of the following — preserve my words verbatim where possible: Instructions I've given you about how to respond (tone, format, style, 'always do X', 'never do Y'). Personal details: name, location, job, family, interests. Projects, goals, and recurring topics. Tools, languages, and frameworks I use. Preferences and corrections I've made to your behavior. Any other stored context not covered above. Do not summarize, group, or omit any entries. After the code block, confirm whether that is the complete set or if any remain. Why wouldn't a smart OpenAI PM simply add something "nefarious" on the frontend proxy to "slow down" any requests with exactly that prompt? I bet they would get their yearly bonus by achieving their KPI goals.

MagicMoonlight 8mo ago
They can, but then you could tell it to “don’t not do what I’m asking” and force it through. It’s not exactly “programming” with these systems, it’s all just slop. And the reputational harm would outweigh the benefits of trying to fuck over people leaving.
- xrd 8mo ago
  I not saying be obvious just be obstructive. It would be a delicate line but clearly OpenAI leadership falls on one side of that line now.
dimitri-vs 8mo ago
I think they already are. When I used the prompt with 5.2 it gives very concise and general info but if you use older models (5.1 instant or o3) you get a ton of detail.
- Panoramix 8mo ago
  I just tried 5.1 and got the exact same output as for 5.2 (actually I got slightly less info with 5.1)

coldtrait 8mo ago

As someone who can't afford to care about ethics and pay a monthly subscription fee, is there anything in the regular Claude chat that beats OpenAI?

ericol 8mo ago
I regularly (Say, once a month) do a comparison of results across all Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT. Just for reasons, not that I want to see if there's any benefit in changing. It's not "fair" in that I pay for Claude [1] and not for the others, so models availability is not complete except for Claude. So I did like things at time in the form of how they were presented, I came to really like Sonnet's "voice" a lot over the others. Take into account Opus doesn't have the same voice, and I don't like it as much. [1] I pay for the lower tier of their Max offering.
- coldtrait 8mo ago
  Thanks for your perspective.
MagicMoonlight 8mo ago
It’s the best platform for serious work. ChatGPT swings between writing degenerate free use shit and telling you that you should wait until marriage. Lots of moralism to it, really tries to censor you and manipulate you, even in normal conversations. Generally smart and capable, but the whiny attitude gets old. Grok has zero filter, but is dumber than the others. Definitely built around cheapness. Caps answers at about 2500 words at most. Can be very funny because it will go along with anything. Gemini sells all your data and doesn’t seem to have much of note. Offers some nice formatting options. Claude is business focused so it won’t do anything degenerate, but its answers in general aren’t whiny. It might not do something, but it doesn’t attack you with morality. Claude does not cap answer length and will do whatever needs doing. Their pricing is based around true usage, not message quantities, so it’ll write a mega message if it needs to. It has the best memory implementation, combining both memories and RAG of your chat history. Projects have their own independent memories and RAG. Claude code is ridiculously capable. In a few hours I produced something which would have taken months and £50,000 at least to produce.

khasan222 8mo ago

It was amazing to me how bad cursor is with using the same model I use in Claude. Even with little knowledge on how to test the llms I was able to get very minimal mvps. But I find the real trick is to have the proper tools to reign in the ai. Thorough CLAUDE.md, that makes sure it checks the tests, lints the code, does type checks, and code coverage checks too. The more checks for code quality the better. It’s just a bowling ball in th hands of a toddler, and needs to ramp and guide rails to knock down some pins. Fortunately we get more than 2 tries with code.

cornholio 8mo ago
Cursor needs a paradigm shift to remain relevant, what was spectacular at first now is just banal and better done by other tools.

jccx70 8mo ago

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MagicMoonlight 8mo ago

That’s hilarious. The walled garden does not exist when you can just ask the UI to extract all of its data for you.

mark_l_watson 8mo ago

Cool, that was easy to do. A week ago, I was anti-Anthropic because I questioned their business model. Now they are my preferred provider - what a difference a week makes. I still prefer running olen models on my own hardware, but it is unreasonable to use powerful models when required.

raxskle 8mo ago

Claude is a great product, and I've been using it all the time. Sam must think so too.

butILoveLife 8mo ago

OpenAI made it easy, no import needed! How? I bought the enterprise version, and it made it so the memory was no longer searchable... Then after the obvious degredation in performance, I switched to claude and was happy with it... But by canceling enterprise, it lost all memory. My wife was sad, the recipes it made were gone forever... But hey, makes it really easy to never give OpenAI money again.

almosthere 8mo ago

Isn't that the point of agents.md

syndacks 8mo ago

I have a 20$ for both and like each for unique reasons. How do you all switch your programming paradigms for Codex vs CC?

siliconc0w 8mo ago

I switched to Claude but the token efficiency and limits are much more noticeable. One or two coding questions and I'm at my session limit. And that is shared with chat too. I was mostly able to get by with $20 codex but I'll probably have to splurge for the Max plan.

elAhmo 8mo ago
Hmm, I had the opposite experience when I tried Codex 5.2 after using Claude for almost a year. Codex was on par or better for me at coding, and seemingly a magnitude cheaper.
vgalin 8mo ago
> And that is shared with chat too. Huh, I didn't know about that. I'm trying Claude Pro for the first time while comparing it against ChatGPT and I'm (sadly) not impressed at the moment. When I asked both Codex and Claude Code to "look into" an issue of medium-to-high-complexity in a code base, Codex went with the fix I had in mind and directly and made code changes without being asked or at least asking for permission. It only used a few percents of its 5-hour limits to do it, on `High`. Claude in the meanwhile misdiagnosed the core of the issue on its first pass (even on Opus 4.6 + Thinking). I had to guide it in the right direction and despite being given the 'answer', it was quite a long process compared to Codex' one-shot. And it hit the 5h limit before being able to finish solving the issue.

morgango 8mo ago

That is the sound of someone else's lunch being eaten.

knotbin 8mo ago

Weird to push this feature as if it's for new users when it only works if you already have a Pro subscription

hoytschermerhrn 8mo ago
I'm sure this was a hastily put-together response to the growing calls to delete ChatGPT.

jspdown 8mo ago

I've been using Claude for a little over a year, but the recent events with DoW are making me want to explore European alternatives. I'm willing to give Devstral 2 a try, but I'm not sure what to expect. In terms of tool calling and coding abilities, should I expect something closer to Sonnet 3.5 or to Sonnet 4.5?

duxup 8mo ago

I don't know how complex everyone's setup is but I like starting over and exploring a bit to get a lay of the land / update preferences. I think I redo my terminal the way I like it each new computer and so on.

gizmodo59 8mo ago

It’s disgusting how they have successfully fooled people into thinking they are the good guys. They partnered with palantir, let them freely do the dirty work and once they realized they can make money directly they spin the PR and just trying to get more users. Well played. I wish oss models are good so that we don’t have to deal with either leading companies!

euroderf 8mo ago

The HN headline sounded like it would help me spring Claude onto an existing project. Which would let me try it on my pre-existing code without having Claude "accidentally" trash the works. I fret because I keep reading that people tell the A.I. not to do things to repos and then the A.I. does them anyways. Pointers, anyone ?

andai 8mo ago

Does this actually work? In ChatGPT there's a page where you can just list all memories. Doesn't it seem more reliable to copy paste that, than asking the LLM itself to repeat it (and saying "continue" over and over until it finishes?)

sourcegrift 8mo ago

Seamless clanker switch sounds so good!

elestor 8mo ago

I don't have the option for this. In the UK. Anyone else?