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>leads to regime change for all those involved Including for the U.S. and Israel?
by Zealotux 8mo ago
>leads to regime change for all those involved
Including for the U.S. and Israel?
- gambiting 8mo agoWe can only hope.
- methyl 8mo agoIt’s possible
- ActorNightly 8mo agoPossible but unlikely. The midterms are going to get actually stolen by Republicans, 100%.
- Revanche1367 8mo agoPretty sure he chose his words carefully.
- reliabilityguy 8mo ago[flagged]
- lm28469 8mo agoNah you just bully your allies and illegally tariff the entire world, no biggy
- tim333 8mo agoTrue but a lot of people would like to see Netanyahu and Trump replaced with other leaders.
- unethical_ban 8mo agoProtesters that took to the streets, according to what I read, because the US president said he would back them. Sounds like he led them to a slaughter to generate justification.
- reliabilityguy 8mo agoProtests started way before Trumps tweet. Second, why are you legitimizing gunning down thousands of people?
- unethical_ban 8mo agoI'm delegitimizing the US president saying things he can't back up, causing death, and getting the US into another war that the American people didn't ask for.
- reliabilityguy 8mo ago> I'm delegitimizing the US president No. You are saying that these people died because of Trump's tweet, and not because the IR goons gunned people on the streets. Seems to me that you place the fault on Trump, rather than on those who pulled the trigger.
- FilosofumRex 8mo agoyou, Trump & Satanyahu are not entitled to your own peaceful counter-revolution - if you want to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran, you must bear the necessarily sacrifices
- Jensson 8mo agoAli Khamenei won one election and has sat there as a supreme leader ever since, that is not democracy. Deposing him is needed for democracy, there has been many protests against him. Iran is not a democracy, it is a fake democracy since the supreme leader cannot be voted away.
- nullocator 8mo agoThe US mostly isn't interested in butchering it's own citizens, slavery is the approach we went with À la the U.S. prison system.
- reliabilityguy 8mo ago> The US mostly isn't interested in butchering it's own citizens, slavery is the approach we went with À la the U.S. prison system. I hate to break it to you, but US prisons, while maybe worse than Scandinavian ones, are on par with France, and way better than like 70% of the world. This is not a competition who has it worse. You can acknowledge terrible things that IR does without trying to portray yourself as a victim.
- nullocator 8mo agoYou are conflating issues. As a foregone conclusion the U.S. bombing the sovereign citizens of Iran is acceptable to you, only afterwards are you and other's justifying this by cherry picking recent events. If Iran hadn't just killed protesters, it'd be because they were working on nukes, or because they've launched missiles across borders. You blind yourself to the dozens of countries around the world doing these things and worse every day while picking and choosing enemies that are acceptable for the United States to attack like al la carte menu items. Justifying those attacks is an after thought.
- runako 8mo ago> on par with France The US per-capita incarceration rate is ~5x that of France.
- tt24 8mo agoHow is this related to what the person you’re replying to said?
- runako 8mo agoThey were responding to this: > The US mostly isn't interested in butchering it's own citizens, slavery is the approach we went with À la the U.S. prison system. To the extent that one is addressing slavery, the point is generally the number of the enslaved and not particularly their conditions (there is not a "good" way to own people).
- danny_codes 8mo ago[flagged]
- waffleiron 8mo ago[flagged]
- qup 8mo ago[flagged]
- almosthere 8mo agoI'm so over the reddit shit on hn.
- cosmicgadget 8mo agoYour threshold for desiring regime change is the murder of 30,000 people?
- LtWorf 8mo agoThen israel is way past it…
- greggoB 8mo ago> And no, stop your American exceptionalism I don't think you intended to use this the way you did
- sosomoxie 8mo agoYou didn't see anyone butchering 30k protesters in 2 days, because that didn't happen.
- reliabilityguy 8mo agoI did see. It is sad that you've decided to look away.
- sosomoxie 8mo agoLook away from something that never happened?
- almosthere 8mo agoIt definitely did happen, it might have been 40k.
- sosomoxie 8mo agoIt definitely did not happen. If you're going to make a claim, you'll need to provide some proof.
- almosthere 8mo agoHere you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
- alex43578 8mo agoYou don't understand: they are getting held in civil detention before being sent back to the country they came from on a chartered plane!
- scoofy 8mo agoIt is difficult to instigate regime change for democratically elected governments. Iran has an unelected supreme leader. Israel has a large portion of its population completely disenfranchised. The US has a generally democratically elected government. If one of these governments is going to fall during military instabilities, it would most likely be Iran. The US will have significant regime change in November if polling holds.
- robin_reala 8mo agoThe US is at “flawed democracy” in the Economist Democracy Index: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
- edgyquant 8mo agoThe US is a republic with some democratic institutions, but the economists index isn’t some platonic indicator that gets to define who’s a good government and who isn’t. Several of its higher ranking countries have outright banned extremely popular political parties in recent years.
- tovej 8mo agoCare to tell us what the politics of those parties were? Because a functioning democracy would ban a nazi party.
- nebula8804 8mo agoSo is France.
- seszett 8mo agoAnd both have a similarly executive-centric form of government where the president and the majority party hold a disproportionate amount of power. Although the US is even worse than France on this regard as far as I know. I think it makes sense that both are categorised as flawed.
- michaelteter 8mo agoOne can only dream.
- nyc_data_geek1 8mo agoHe said what he said.
- FuckButtons 8mo agoDid he stutter?
- hedayet 8mo agodon't know about Israel, but for the USA, it means "midterm is coming"