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Struggled with it also, given up (for now). I thought coding was a solved problem Boris?

by monkeydust 7mo ago

richard___ 7mo ago
He is trolling to increase the stock price before IPO
- consumer451 7mo ago
  OK, but seriously... if Anthropic is on the "best" path, aside from somehow nuking all AI research labs, an IPO would be the most socially responsible thing that they could do. Right?
yosefk 7mo ago
Coding is a solved problem. Problems with the code - these are far from solved, in fact they're multiplying, but coding is definitely solved
- ValentineC 7mo ago
  What does "solving" coding mean?
  - lunarboy 7mo ago
    It types code, wallah!
  - david_shaw 7mo ago
    > What does "solving" coding mean? Maybe this was sarcasm, but it's a good point: "Coding" is solved in the same way that "writing English language" is solved by LLMs. Given ideas, AI can generate acceptable output. It's not writing the next "Ulysses," though, and it's definitely not coming up with authentically creative ideas. But the days of needing to learn esoteric syntax in order to write code are probably numbered.
  - naruhodo 7mo ago
    It can generate lots of code. Some [1] of it is even correct. [1] Model Collapse Ends AI Hype @39:45, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShusuVq32hc&t=2385s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShusuVq32hc&t=2385s
- timmmmmmay 7mo ago
  coding like a hospital patient
rfw300 7mo ago
I have little doubt where things are going, but the irony of the way they communicate versus the quality of their actual product is palpable. Claude Code (the product, not the underlying model) has been one of the buggiest, least polished products I have ever used. And it's not exactly rocket science to begin with. Maybe they should try writing slightly less than 100% of their code with AI?
- rfw300 7mo ago
  More generally, Anthropic's reliability track record for a company which claims to have solved coding is astonishingly poor. Just look at their status page - https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/ - multiple severe incidents, every day. And that's to say nothing of the constant stream of bugs for simple behavior in the desktop app, Claude Code, their various IDE integrations, the tools they offer in the API, and so on. Their models are so good that they make dealing with the rest all worth it. But if I were a non-research engineer at Anthropic, I wouldn't strut around gloating. I'd hide my head in a paper bag.
  - jopsen 7mo ago
    Even when it's operating normal the webapp is constantly crashing. Mobile app stops working.. It's a pain. At least right now.
  - rhubarbtree 7mo ago
    I don’t think that’s fair. ChatGPT and Gemini also seem to suffer random outages. They’re dealing with high load on a new type of product. But it’s also true that Anthropic products are super buggy.
    - jaapz 7mo ago
      It's almost as if a lot of anthropic's stuff is vibecoded
- jarjoura 7mo ago
  I am constantly amazed how developers went hard for claude-code when there were and are so many better implementations of the same idea. It's also a tool that has a ton of telemetry, doesn't take advantage of the OS sandbox, and has so many tiny little patch updates that my company has become overworked trying to manage this. Its worst feature (to me at least), is the, "CLAUDE.md"s sprinkled all over, everywhere in our repository. It's impossible to know when or if one of them gets read, and what random stale effect, when it does decide to read it, has now been triggered. Yes, I know, I'm responsible for keeping them up to date and they should be part of any PR, but claude itself doesn't always even know it needs to update any of them, because it decided to ignore the parent CLAUDE.md file.
sunir 7mo ago
Until problems are a solved problem, I feel I'm ok.
Thrymr 7mo ago
Generating code is a solved problem. Some people think that is the same thing.
ponector 7mo ago
It is solved in his org. He never promised quality software, though. You get a buggy electron app and they get billions in valuation. Clearly no one values quality anymore. 1000% yolo
- abustamam 7mo ago
  Why have quality when agents can just fix issues when other agents encounter them? /s

Struggled with it also, given up (for now). I thought coding was a solved problem Boris?

richard___ 7mo ago

He is trolling to increase the stock price before IPO

consumer451 7mo ago
OK, but seriously... if Anthropic is on the "best" path, aside from somehow nuking all AI research labs, an IPO would be the most socially responsible thing that they could do. Right?

yosefk 7mo ago

Coding is a solved problem. Problems with the code - these are far from solved, in fact they're multiplying, but coding is definitely solved

ValentineC 7mo ago
What does "solving" coding mean?
- lunarboy 7mo ago
  It types code, wallah!
- david_shaw 7mo ago
  > What does "solving" coding mean? Maybe this was sarcasm, but it's a good point: "Coding" is solved in the same way that "writing English language" is solved by LLMs. Given ideas, AI can generate acceptable output. It's not writing the next "Ulysses," though, and it's definitely not coming up with authentically creative ideas. But the days of needing to learn esoteric syntax in order to write code are probably numbered.
- naruhodo 7mo ago
  It can generate lots of code. Some [1] of it is even correct. [1] Model Collapse Ends AI Hype @39:45, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShusuVq32hc&t=2385s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShusuVq32hc&t=2385s
timmmmmmay 7mo ago
coding like a hospital patient

rfw300 7mo ago

I have little doubt where things are going, but the irony of the way they communicate versus the quality of their actual product is palpable. Claude Code (the product, not the underlying model) has been one of the buggiest, least polished products I have ever used. And it's not exactly rocket science to begin with. Maybe they should try writing slightly less than 100% of their code with AI?

rfw300 7mo ago
More generally, Anthropic's reliability track record for a company which claims to have solved coding is astonishingly poor. Just look at their status page - https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/ - multiple severe incidents, every day. And that's to say nothing of the constant stream of bugs for simple behavior in the desktop app, Claude Code, their various IDE integrations, the tools they offer in the API, and so on. Their models are so good that they make dealing with the rest all worth it. But if I were a non-research engineer at Anthropic, I wouldn't strut around gloating. I'd hide my head in a paper bag.
- jopsen 7mo ago
  Even when it's operating normal the webapp is constantly crashing. Mobile app stops working.. It's a pain. At least right now.
- rhubarbtree 7mo ago
  I don’t think that’s fair. ChatGPT and Gemini also seem to suffer random outages. They’re dealing with high load on a new type of product. But it’s also true that Anthropic products are super buggy.
  - jaapz 7mo ago
    It's almost as if a lot of anthropic's stuff is vibecoded
jarjoura 7mo ago
I am constantly amazed how developers went hard for claude-code when there were and are so many better implementations of the same idea. It's also a tool that has a ton of telemetry, doesn't take advantage of the OS sandbox, and has so many tiny little patch updates that my company has become overworked trying to manage this. Its worst feature (to me at least), is the, "CLAUDE.md"s sprinkled all over, everywhere in our repository. It's impossible to know when or if one of them gets read, and what random stale effect, when it does decide to read it, has now been triggered. Yes, I know, I'm responsible for keeping them up to date and they should be part of any PR, but claude itself doesn't always even know it needs to update any of them, because it decided to ignore the parent CLAUDE.md file.

sunir 7mo ago

Until problems are a solved problem, I feel I'm ok.

Thrymr 7mo ago

Generating code is a solved problem. Some people think that is the same thing.

ponector 7mo ago

It is solved in his org. He never promised quality software, though. You get a buggy electron app and they get billions in valuation. Clearly no one values quality anymore. 1000% yolo

abustamam 7mo ago
Why have quality when agents can just fix issues when other agents encounter them? /s