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> But we know that any person who uses AI is likely to improve at what they do. Do we?
by mlpoknbji 7mo ago
> But we know that any person who uses AI is likely to improve at what they do.
Do we?
- co_king_5 7mo ago[dead]
- Insanity 7mo agoYah and this seems to be supported by preliminary evidence on the impact of AI on things like retention and cognitive ability.
- rishabhaiover 7mo agoAs a student, I constantly worry about this. But everyone in my class is producing output at a pace I can't compete with without AI assistance.
- Avshalom 7mo agowhat class are you in that "producing output at a [rapid] pace" is relevant to the grade?
- rishabhaiover 7mo agopick any cs class
- Avshalom 7mo agoI have a minor in CS and no -producing the assignment by the deadline is important- grades are not based on quantity of code vs classmates.
- rsynnott 7mo agoI mean, maybe things have changed (I finished college about 20 years ago), but I don't remember producing large volumes of stuff as being a particularly important part of a CS degree.
- rishabhaiover 7mo agoBetween a challenging job market, increasing new frontiers of learning (AI, MLops, parallel hardware) and an average mind like mine, a tool that increases throughput is likely to be adopted by masses, whether you like it or not and quality is not a concern for most, passing and getting an A is (most of my professors actively encourage to use LLMs for reports/code generation/presentations)
- plastic-enjoyer 7mo agoIt will be a very interesting experiment when your generation of computer science graduates enters the job market, to put it mildly.
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- rishabhaiover 7mo agoIndividuals believe they act freely, but they are constrained and directed by historical forces beyond their awareness - Leo Tolstoy
- andai 7mo agoHistorical forces beyond your awareness cannot force you to submit mountains of slop.
- rishabhaiover 7mo agoslop is not a thing anymore, stop living in a fantasy world
- andai 7mo agoWhat are you talking about? Slop existed long before AI and it will exist long after.
- lawn 7mo agoThat was never a worry in any of my CS classes.
- theappsecguy 7mo agoCopying AI slop isn’t producing output! It’s also not conducive to learning
- fatherwavelet 7mo agoAs if you are just a such a genius the models are of no use to you. How can you not think that makes you sound like a complete moron?
- SubmarineClub 7mo agoI guess I really am just that much smarter than you.
- theappsecguy 7mo agoI would urge you to leverage some critical thinking, re-read what I stated, and identify where I said that the models are of no use to me. If the ability to think for yourself without AI assistance hasn't fully atrophied on your end you may be able to see that you are the moron in this thread.
- co_king_5 7mo ago[dead]
- wasmainiac 7mo agoNot even just skills, motivation too.
- dsr_ 7mo agoNot until large-N research is done without sponsorship, support, or veiled threats from AI companies. At which point, if the evidence turns out to be negative, it will be considered invalid because no model less recent than November 2027 is worth using for anything. If the evidence turns out to be slightly positive, it will be hailed as the next educational paradigm shift and AI training will be part of unemployment settlements.
- throwaw12 7mo agoLet me add a single data point. > is likely to improve at what they do personally, my skills are not improving. professionally, my output is increased
- mobattah 7mo agoMy software development skillset has improved. I’m learning and stress testing new patterns that would have taken far longer pre-AI. I’m also working in new domains and tech stacks that would have taken me much longer to get up to speed on.
- poszlem 7mo agoI would even say it's likely the opposite. My output as a programmer is now much higher than before, but I am losing my programming skills with each use of claude code.
- selridge 7mo agoWe DEEPLY do not. That's not, IMO, a "skills go down" position. It's respecting that this is a bigger maybe than anyone in living memory has encountered.
- j45 7mo agoPeople who use AI mindfully and actively can possibly improve. The olden days of buidling skills and competencies are largely dying or dead when the skills and competencies are changing faster than skills and competency training ever intended to.
- shimman 7mo agoI could have sworn there was research that stated the more you use these tools the quicker your skills degrade, which honestly feels accurate to me and why I've started reading more technical books again.
- rkomorn 7mo ago> I've started reading more technical books again How's that working out for you in the context of working with AI tools? Do you feel like it's helping you make better use of them? Or keeping your mind sharp? I've been considering getting some books on core topics I haven't (re)visited in a long time to see if not having to write as much code anymore instead gives me time to (re)learn more and accelerate.
- fatherwavelet 7mo agoI just don't understand how someone can have these models at their disposal not learn anything? The general lack of intellectual curiosity is just mind blowing to me.
- jimbokun 7mo agoClearly this means Anthropic believes this but would be nice to have a footnote pointing to research backing this claim.
- amelius 7mo agoIt is also not very convincing considering that while the UI of Claude is not bad it is also not exactly stellar.