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This is a great example of how silly this whole thing is. There’s next to nothing to these claws. Turns out that if you give an llm the ability to call APIs the

This is a great example of how silly this whole thing is. There’s next to nothing to these claws. Turns out that if you give an llm the ability to call APIs they will.

felipeerias 8mo ago
If it turns out that there is significant value in everyone having their own personal agent running 24/7, we might end up needing a lot more compute than anticipated. (It’s a big if! I’m not convinced about that myself, but it’s worth considering that possibility.)
- tokenless 8mo ago
  I am using a claw. I am not ready to give it access to much but web and cron plus a chat channel is useful and feels more light touch than typical AI sessions and UIs
  - anonzzzies 8mo ago
    I use opencode, cerebras GLM with some mcps for that. It's so lovely because you press enter and there is the answer already.
- eshaham78 8mo ago
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- prmoustache 8mo ago
  I am struggling to understand what a personal agent/assistant would do to me. If I need reminders I just enter calendar entries on my smartphone, what else?
yoyohello13 8mo ago
What’s most shocking to me about the whole OpenClaw hype is how little people in tech seem to know about computers… It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder.
- anonzzzies 8mo ago
  > It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder. Most didn't do even that. And yes it is shocking. amusing but also not really; now those people get credible tech jobs because of AI without actually understanding literally anything. That's why I don't get the 'AI will never replace tech people' -> most tech people were never tech people, just (resume lying) grifters and they can (and will) be easily replaced by claude or even glm. It's the vast majority of tech people I ran into at big corps in the past 20 years, especially if they are from outsourcing hubs; they just see programming/tech as trial and error, search google (now ask AI), copy/paste, see if it runs, repeat. I see people daily that cannot remember how variables work (and they often have a bachelor or even master in CS...), not even 5 minutes, they just ask ai and copy/paste it (yep also most don't know claude code exists, they use chatgpt Windows client or, if they are advanced, Copilot). HN is a nice echo chamber and most people here don't believe it's that bad and that's why they don't believe AI has a chance. Please come with me to Barclays or Shell (or straight to Wipro etc) or so and let's have a chat with some programmers! Your jaw will be on the floor.
- patcon 8mo ago
  I don't care whether openclaw is built out of ice cream and sprinkles, I will still be amazed as a tech person If something can automate my professional or personal life, it is wild technology and ppl will talk about it a lot. People are not idiots. A new thing is happening, would you not agree? What its parts are specifically made of, it does not matter imho
  - h4ch1 8mo ago
    This is an ostrich-head-in-the-sand type of outlook. If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? It's important to know what goes into building *claws because of how pervasive they are; sooner or later because of all the hype they'll start being used everywhere and if people take your attitude it's a disaster waiting to happen. Giving them unfettered access to your life and not even wonder if the foundation is solid is concerning imho.
stavros 8mo ago
I've been developing one of these in the past few days, and this is like saying "this is a great example of how silly the whole thing is, there's next to nothing to cars" because you saw a piece of plywood with four gaskets nailed to it. If you want a personal assistant to work well, there's a whole lot to it.
- h14h 8mo ago
  Having a similar experience. Durable memory with accurate, low-latency recall is not at all easy. Loads of subtle design decisions to make around how exactly you want the thing to work.
TiredOfLife 8mo ago
Same with programming. It's just typing on keyboard. How hard could it be?
tclancy 8mo ago
Wait til they find out what happens if you give a mouse a cookie.

This is a great example of how silly this whole thing is. There’s next to nothing to these claws. Turns out that if you give an llm the ability to call APIs they will.

felipeerias 8mo ago

If it turns out that there is significant value in everyone having their own personal agent running 24/7, we might end up needing a lot more compute than anticipated. (It’s a big if! I’m not convinced about that myself, but it’s worth considering that possibility.)

tokenless 8mo ago
I am using a claw. I am not ready to give it access to much but web and cron plus a chat channel is useful and feels more light touch than typical AI sessions and UIs
- anonzzzies 8mo ago
  I use opencode, cerebras GLM with some mcps for that. It's so lovely because you press enter and there is the answer already.
eshaham78 8mo ago
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prmoustache 8mo ago
I am struggling to understand what a personal agent/assistant would do to me. If I need reminders I just enter calendar entries on my smartphone, what else?

yoyohello13 8mo ago

What’s most shocking to me about the whole OpenClaw hype is how little people in tech seem to know about computers… It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder.

anonzzzies 8mo ago
> It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder. Most didn't do even that. And yes it is shocking. amusing but also not really; now those people get credible tech jobs because of AI without actually understanding literally anything. That's why I don't get the 'AI will never replace tech people' -> most tech people were never tech people, just (resume lying) grifters and they can (and will) be easily replaced by claude or even glm. It's the vast majority of tech people I ran into at big corps in the past 20 years, especially if they are from outsourcing hubs; they just see programming/tech as trial and error, search google (now ask AI), copy/paste, see if it runs, repeat. I see people daily that cannot remember how variables work (and they often have a bachelor or even master in CS...), not even 5 minutes, they just ask ai and copy/paste it (yep also most don't know claude code exists, they use chatgpt Windows client or, if they are advanced, Copilot). HN is a nice echo chamber and most people here don't believe it's that bad and that's why they don't believe AI has a chance. Please come with me to Barclays or Shell (or straight to Wipro etc) or so and let's have a chat with some programmers! Your jaw will be on the floor.
patcon 8mo ago
I don't care whether openclaw is built out of ice cream and sprinkles, I will still be amazed as a tech person If something can automate my professional or personal life, it is wild technology and ppl will talk about it a lot. People are not idiots. A new thing is happening, would you not agree? What its parts are specifically made of, it does not matter imho
- h4ch1 8mo ago
  This is an ostrich-head-in-the-sand type of outlook. If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it? It's important to know what goes into building *claws because of how pervasive they are; sooner or later because of all the hype they'll start being used everywhere and if people take your attitude it's a disaster waiting to happen. Giving them unfettered access to your life and not even wonder if the foundation is solid is concerning imho.

stavros 8mo ago

I've been developing one of these in the past few days, and this is like saying "this is a great example of how silly the whole thing is, there's next to nothing to cars" because you saw a piece of plywood with four gaskets nailed to it. If you want a personal assistant to work well, there's a whole lot to it.

h14h 8mo ago
Having a similar experience. Durable memory with accurate, low-latency recall is not at all easy. Loads of subtle design decisions to make around how exactly you want the thing to work.

TiredOfLife 8mo ago

Same with programming. It's just typing on keyboard. How hard could it be?

tclancy 8mo ago

Wait til they find out what happens if you give a mouse a cookie.