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There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would
by debazel 8mo ago
There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.
- fulafel 8mo agoYes, in the headlines the agencies playing adversaries to the common folk are definitely mainly chinese... /s
- chromehearts 8mo agoAs someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?
- hxugufjfjf 8mo agoYou absolutely can. We see a huge uproar in European enterprises against US software/vendors/etc. Many companies are halting their cloud migration because they are now worried that the current US government could decide to just pull the plug or something otherwise inane.
- deaux 8mo agoIt's concerning that someone from the EU is still asking this question. How is there any doubt left in you? Yes, of course both are adversarial countries, and shouldn't be treated all too differently. In the short-term, the US is the bigger threat, as they've shown they're much more willing to use the power they have to cut off access than China.
- Cieric 8mo agoAs someone from the US I would suggest viewing both as adversarial. I don't really trust my own government, but if I was born abroad I would trust them even less.
- chpatrick 8mo agoI don't know why you're being downvoted, the US has been way more belligerent towards the EU recently than China.
- stodor89 8mo agoAs someone from the EU, please do!
- victorbjorklund 8mo agoAnd to be fair only US is openly hostile to EU.
- cestith 8mo agoBoth the US and China are openly hostile to domestic populations.
- ponector 8mo agoI see no harm if China use my data. But US companies are actually using my data against me.
- blacksmith_tb 8mo agoIt's still distasteful, but they aren't in a position to do me much direct harm, so there's that.
- Numerlor 8mo agoWouldn't having an adversarial country to be spying on you be the better option for you personally? At least privacy wise, not using your machine as some infiltration point, as the country you reside in has many more opportunities to abuse the data
- victorbjorklund 8mo agoLike US saying EU is its adversary and spying on it? Trump had been pretty clear that he sees EU as a threat while China and Russia is not.
- victorbjorklund 8mo agoAnd don’t forget that ICE sees both non-citizens and citizens as the enemy if they don’t agree with Trump.
- 63stack 8mo agoICE? DOJ? Hello?
- dormento 8mo ago> The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one. I swear I'm not trying to be dense on purpose, but come on. Unless _woosh_, in which case well played.
- subscribed 8mo agoI beg you pardon. We've got a live situation where three letter agencies are taking down their OWN country and citizens in its wake. Oh, and the alliances as well. Sure, materially different.
- BoingBoomTschak 8mo agoYou're lucky if you truly live in a "Western" country where the throne isn't held by the enemy.
- cestith 8mo agoYet we have the current example of the United States.
- hulitu 8mo ago> There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen Like CIA, NSA, FBI ? Of course there is a difference.