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I haven't heard about someone ever getting a letter for seeding books, but maybe I'm lucky. In any case, I'll add a notice to the README, thank you for the sugg

by yoavm 8mo ago

I haven't heard about someone ever getting a letter for seeding books, but maybe I'm lucky. In any case, I'll add a notice to the README, thank you for the suggestion.

nicbou 8mo ago
It would likely happen in Germany, unless you have a VPN. This has been a problem for years when torrenting films. Chasing people with fines has been a lucrative, automated business for years.
- jtbayly 8mo ago
  films are not books, though.
  - bigfishrunning 8mo ago
    They are, you just have to turn the pages really fast
  - nicbou 8mo ago
    They are copyrighted material just the same
    - bethekidyouwant 8mo ago
      Assumes the copyright holder is looking at the peer list for these torrent. (Books) Which I doubt.
      - nicbou 8mo ago
        It's not the copyright holder doing the work in either case, but a cottage industry of legal trolls.
PurpleRamen 8mo ago
A decade ago, it happened regularly, but not sure if they are still doing this now. But the laws haven't changed much since then.
streetfighter64 8mo ago
Well, there's a very famous story of one of the cofounders of reddit facing a million dollar fine and 35 years in prison for just downloading, not seeding, scientific articles. Not entirely the same, but quite related as his motivations were similar to those of Anna's Archive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Swartz
- reddalo 8mo ago
  RIP Aaron Swartz
- cedws 8mo ago
  The Aaron Swartz case is a tragedy, but I think this is kind of understating it. He broke into a private network and tried to cover his tracks which is hard to argue isn’t a cyber crime. I don’t think he deserved anywhere near 35 years though. I think hacker types easily get carried away and forget the optics of what they’re doing. I consider myself lucky the computer mischief I got up to when I was younger never landed me in big trouble. All Swartz needed was a stern reminder, and light sentence to redirect his skills.
  - streetfighter64 8mo ago
    Did you see what Anna's Archive did with Spotify? Seeding their torrents isn't exactly "breaking into a private network", but it is definitely at least showing support for the same kind of large scale data theft / DRM breaking. Which might put a target on your back, should the US govt want to make an example out of you.
    - joquarky 8mo ago
      > data theft Did they delete the data that they copied without permission?
      - streetfighter64 8mo ago
        No need to be snarky, I know there's a difference of opinions about ownership when it comes to data. That's why I also wrote "DRM breaking" as an alternative term. Would you say "hackers broke into the NHS and copied patient data without permission" or would you simply say they "stole" it?

by yoavm 8mo ago

I haven't heard about someone ever getting a letter for seeding books, but maybe I'm lucky. In any case, I'll add a notice to the README, thank you for the suggestion.

nicbou 8mo ago

It would likely happen in Germany, unless you have a VPN. This has been a problem for years when torrenting films. Chasing people with fines has been a lucrative, automated business for years.

jtbayly 8mo ago
films are not books, though.
- bigfishrunning 8mo ago
  They are, you just have to turn the pages really fast
- nicbou 8mo ago
  They are copyrighted material just the same
  - bethekidyouwant 8mo ago
    Assumes the copyright holder is looking at the peer list for these torrent. (Books) Which I doubt.
    - nicbou 8mo ago
      It's not the copyright holder doing the work in either case, but a cottage industry of legal trolls.

PurpleRamen 8mo ago

A decade ago, it happened regularly, but not sure if they are still doing this now. But the laws haven't changed much since then.

streetfighter64 8mo ago

Well, there's a very famous story of one of the cofounders of reddit facing a million dollar fine and 35 years in prison for just downloading, not seeding, scientific articles. Not entirely the same, but quite related as his motivations were similar to those of Anna's Archive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Swartz

reddalo 8mo ago
RIP Aaron Swartz
cedws 8mo ago
The Aaron Swartz case is a tragedy, but I think this is kind of understating it. He broke into a private network and tried to cover his tracks which is hard to argue isn’t a cyber crime. I don’t think he deserved anywhere near 35 years though. I think hacker types easily get carried away and forget the optics of what they’re doing. I consider myself lucky the computer mischief I got up to when I was younger never landed me in big trouble. All Swartz needed was a stern reminder, and light sentence to redirect his skills.
- streetfighter64 8mo ago
  Did you see what Anna's Archive did with Spotify? Seeding their torrents isn't exactly "breaking into a private network", but it is definitely at least showing support for the same kind of large scale data theft / DRM breaking. Which might put a target on your back, should the US govt want to make an example out of you.
  - joquarky 8mo ago
    > data theft Did they delete the data that they copied without permission?
    - streetfighter64 8mo ago
      No need to be snarky, I know there's a difference of opinions about ownership when it comes to data. That's why I also wrote "DRM breaking" as an alternative term. Would you say "hackers broke into the NHS and copied patient data without permission" or would you simply say they "stole" it?