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iOS 27 'Rave' Update to Clean Up Code, Could Boost Battery Life
- postexitus 9mo agoJust drop the liquid glass farce and you will save 5% battery life already.
- baq 9mo agoios 27 being ios 26 minus liquid glass is literally the only thing I want from the next ios version.
- bouke 9mo agoSame with macOS. I'm sticking with Sequoia, but don't know what to do if macOS 27 turns out to be just as ugly as Tahoe.
- bubblewand 9mo agoI would like them to also fix all the weird rendering bugs they introduced in Safari. Though maybe those are also liquid glass’ fault.
- soared 9mo agoChrome has them too :)
- TheDong 9mo agoYeah, because chrome is required to use -safari- webkit too, apple won't allow alternative browsers on the app store. Except in the EU, but they don't allow it globally so no sane company is going to invest time into building a browser for iOS while apple is intentionally region-locking the ability to install them. So yeah, on iOS, rendering bugs on Chrome are quite often apple's fault, and the Chrome team can't fix em.
- hshdhdhj4444 9mo agoSafari is literally unusable on some websites. So, for example, since the toolbar at the bottom is not a separate interface but hovers over the rendered page, if the page has a button or link that only sits at the bottom of the page, it can literally be impossible to click it because the hovering toolbar will cover it. I’ve come across 2 websites in the past week itself where I had to switch to mobile Firefox to actually do something.
- jtbaker 9mo agothis would make me so happy!
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- joezydeco 9mo agoI'd even settle for it being on a switch, call it "minimal UI" or something, but I have a feeling that Apple doesn't work like that. It's burn-the-boats, we're going all in on Glass and there's no going back.
- Someone1234 9mo agoBut what if I want my iPhone to look like Windows Vista?
- data-ottawa 9mo agoI actually liked how Vista looked, but it had a lot of artificial sheen that Liquid Glass doesn’t have. Looks were never Vista’s problem.
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- Hamuko 9mo agoI don't remember my Vista installation being this illegible.
- ch4s3 9mo agoWindows 98 Phone when?
- _diyar 9mo agoI wonder if anybody at Apple is bold enough to lose face over this, given that there‘s a leadership shuffle underway.
- lou1306 9mo agoThey might manage to pin it all on Alan Dye, who recently jumped ship to Meta.
- snarf21 9mo agoI thought the person responsible was already gone...
- troupo 9mo agoPeople keep blaming Alan Dye as if he was the only one responsible. Federighi—who's in charge of implementing this and was busy praising it on stage—is completely blameless. As are all other managers big and small at Apple.
- dylan604 9mo ago> and was busy praising it on stage I mean, yeah, if you were picked to present "on stage" (when was the last time a stage was actually involved???) then of course you're going to be a team player and read the script enthusiastically. It's not like Federighi is going to present something "and now, here's the thing that I argued against doing, but was shouted down in all the meetings so here's this thing I don't like and you shouldn't feel obliged to like it either"
- troupo 9mo ago> I mean, yeah, if you were picked to present "on stage" Ah yes. Federighi, the VP of Platform Development, literally responsible for the development of iOS and MacOs "was picked", and had no power to say no to the overwhelming power of the all-powerful head of design Alan Dye. > but was shouted down in all the meetings So, VP of Platforms was shouted down by whom exactly? But sure, let's keep telling everyone that it was only Alan Dye who was responsible for Liquid Glass. BTW I remind you it was the same Federighi who introduced the awful design changes in the MacOS a few years ago proudly presenting the new settings app and saying that everything will be meticulously designed in the final version (was it Sonoma? Can't remember).
- newsclues 9mo agoI don't think they can or will change something that drastic right away, but I'd wager that there is at least one team, rethinking it. Maybe a year or two of bug fixing updates, while they entirely refresh liquid glass? Seems like a BIG job.
- halJordan 9mo agoI like this site, and would love to love it. But the unrelenting refusal to participate in new things simply because they're new is incredibly disappointing. There's nothing wrong with Liquid Glass. There's nothing wrong with an llm. Half of this site could just be a bot complaining.
- jenoer 9mo agoPersonally, the icon and widget edges constantly moving around when moving the phone even slightly in any direction got on my nerves so bad that I had to disable Motion completely (the only fix for it). This unfortunately also downgraded a lot of other UI components/interactions as well. It did give me a battery boost though, so at least there's that.
- Espressosaurus 9mo agoUX regressions are bad, and liquid glass is worse than Microsoft’s Metro nonsense for usability. Transparency is not a good user experience when you’re trying to read detailed text.
- postexitus 9mo agoI don't care when somebody doesn't like aesthetics or look and feel of a new theme. It is subjective. Giving people an option to turn it off is kind. But Liquid Glass is usability terror. Just bring up the onscreen controls when you are playing video and compare that with what it was before. What is incredibly disappointing is people like you who defends new things just because they are new without paying any attention to usability, ergonomics or -sadly- performance. There is nothing good about Liquid Glass. Half of this site could just be a bot complaining.
- array_key_first 9mo agoThere's a lot of things wrong with liquid glass. The problem isn't that nobody has valid complaints. It's that you, and others, read those valid complaints and then just literally pretend they don't exist. Frankly, I don't even know how you manage to achieve this level of cognitive dishonesty without stepping back and seriously considering your life and purpose. Yes, liquid glass does actually have problems. It has performance problems. It can be a big distraction, and some people believe UI whitespace shouldn't detract from the main content. It has huge legibility problems. Sometimes text straight up cannot be read. It has predictability problems. Stuff moves around when it shouldn't, text magically changes colors based on heuristics, which throws users off. And that's not an exhaustive list.
- joshstrange 9mo agoI would like nothing more but the goodwill (what little is left) that would be burnt with the developers who updated their apps to use Liquid Glass might be more than Apple can handle. Best bet and to move as quickly as possible to tone it down, fix the bugs, and get someone who actually likes macOS in charge(clearly the people in charge hate it, why else would they treat it so badly). The System Settings app was the canary in the coal mine (yes, I'm sure there even better canaries but it's the first that comes to mind), whoever let that out the door should have already been reprimanded but instead Apple doubled down and created the trash heap that is Tahoe.
- pavel_lishin 9mo agoHey, maybe they'll fix the keyboard, too, and then that guy won't have to switch to Android for two years!
- k33n 9mo agoApple got brutally frame mogged by the keyboard frat leader
- nan60 9mo agoThis is both the best and worst comment I’ve ever read on HN.
- pavel_lishin 9mo agoI hate how much of it I understand.
- eknkc 9mo agoA keyboard fix is the only thing I want at this point. It is comically bad.
- s3p 9mo agoI love that we all see the same content on HN. Maybe he will start vibecoding and get hired by OpenAI afterward.
- ASalazarMX 9mo agoThey keyboard is bad, yes, but the text selection is maddening! It used to be that double or long tapping a word was enough to highlight it and retype it, now you never know if that will select a word, statement, or whole paragraph, and there's nothing you can do to change that. Even trying to hit the cursor handles at both ends of the selection can become an exercise in frustration. I've lost count of how many times I've ended retyping a whole statement instead of trying to fix a single autocorrected word. Apple is becoming the Bethesda of OSs, promising to fix their bugs to maybe extend battery life, when the UX has fundamental flaws.
- kachapopopow 9mo agoI'll believe it when I see it. iOS 26 has been having 5 fps in the home screen all the time and I can see the effect constantly pop up, go away and even spaz out on a 3 year old pro max model. I have a pitch black home screen as well and the glass effect is completely inconherent and looks horrible so would be ideal if glass can be disabled in the homescreen entirely or have the same opaque effect as it is in-apps.
- kiririn 9mo agoA bug(?) exists to disable liquid ass on the Home Screen that still works in 26.3 - enable Reduce Motion globally in accessibility settings, then add a per app accessibility override for “Home Screen & App Library” with Reduce Motion off, then reboot. Somehow this disables liquid ass throughout the Home Screen, back to iOS 18 gaussian blurs
- gruez 9mo ago>iOS 26 has been having 5 fps in the home screen all the time and I can see the effect constantly pop up Just after unlocking your phone? That's existed on iOS 18 at the very least and can hardly be blamed on iOS 26 or liquid glass.
- hulitu 9mo ago> iOS 27 'Rave' Update to Clean Up Code, Could Boost Battery Life I'm trying to imagine a world where, instead of affirmative or negative, we use conditional. "We could search for a new candidate". "Honey could you go buy some bread ? There isn't any. / Yes honey, i could". "Your salary could raise with 3%". "I'm a journalist. I could write an article if i would". And so on and so forth. P.S. They forgot the "could" before "update" and "clean".
- 9dev 9mo agoThis is the one thing users have asked for for years now. Apparently even Apple eventually listens.
- lbourdages 9mo agoI think the abysmal adoption numbers of the v26 OSes have played a big role here.
- nicolas_17 9mo agoAnd imagine the numbers if downgrading was possible...
- walterbell 9mo agoWill iOS 28 bring silent voice interface? https://www.newsweek.com/apples-2b-ai-acquisition-could-have-siri-read-facial-cues-and-silent-speech-11472667 https://www.newsweek.com/apples-2b-ai-acquisition-could-have... > users [could] interact with Siri and future Apple devices without speaking out loud.. AI systems capable of interpreting facial expressions and subtle muscle movements to understand so-called “silent speech.”
- canxerian 9mo agoNever considered this but I'd love this feature
- stetrain 9mo agoI would expect this to be a feature of a specific product, like AR glasses.
- walterbell 9mo agoIt's from the creator of FaceID, so might be possible on other devices.
- stetrain 9mo agoYes, but it's not very convenient to need to hold your iPhone up to your face to use such an interface. Maybe a Mac or iPad that has its camera pointed at you while you are doing work.
- haritha-j 9mo agoYeah I'm really looking forward to frantically sticking my tongue out in morse code to subtly communicate with my phone.
- kdheiwns 9mo agoIsraeli AI software that's constantly watching my face and surroundings to read what I'm talking about? If there's anything I do not want, it's this.
- bikelang 9mo agoLiterally all I want from Apple is a year (or multiple) spent laser focused tackling tech debt and improving software performance.
- dgxyz 9mo agoI want them to have invested in this already so we don't have this miserable shit to deal with.
- Someone1234 9mo agoYep; and all Apple fans ever say is "report feedback!!!" but what is the point when seemingly Apple never gets to their backlog of bugs/broken features? I mean, sure, some big stuff gets fixed, but there is a lot of stuff broken going on years they haven't even touched.
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- runjake 9mo agoFeedback is more or less a black hole, for the most part. It's rarely paid attention to by a human, and is treated like telemetry. If you want something fixed, it needs to get into the press or go viral.
- trogdor 9mo agoI’m sure there are countless examples to the contrary, but I recently submitted feedback regarding an issue that I was experiencing in Final Cut Pro. Within a week, a member of the Final Cut Pro team contacted me and asked for a copy of my video editing files so they could replicate the issue. I sent them the files, they confirmed the issue, and the issue was fixed in the next release. I was very pleasantly surprised.
- m463 9mo agoI just madly click on "I Have This Problem Too"
- Brajeshwar 9mo agoI wish Apple would pause the Major Number bumps across all the OSes. Perhaps a 3-year OS update cycle. No Rush. They can still do the Marketing thingies with feature additions and bug fixes, like, “This WWDC is all about the 0.5 update, and you will love it.”
- lenerdenator 9mo agoTim, honey, darling, baby. Just do this for like, the next six months. Go in, clear out tech debt, get stuff fixed. Tell the creative and features guys that they look like hell and need to take a vacation. Unless it's the guy who says you can't make colorful MBP finishes. Just fire that guy. Do that and you'll have my money for another MBP sooner rather than later.
- uxjw 9mo agoLess than a month after Microsoft announcing this for Windows https://www.theverge.com/tech/870045/microsoft-windows-11-issues-rebuilding-trust-notepad https://www.theverge.com/tech/870045/microsoft-windows-11-is...
- zelifcam 9mo agoHow about fixing their calendar widgets? I didn’t think it was possible to make a non functional calendar. But here we are… https://lemmy.world/post/18872755 https://lemmy.world/post/18872755
- BoredPositron 9mo agoAt least not as useless as the windows taskbar calendar. It's nearly a decade without any functionality or integration.
- iamleppert 9mo agoAll I want from Apple is to get rid of that atrocious frosted glass interface. It looks like a Sharper Image catalog from the 90's!
- newsclues 9mo agoApples own Apps need serious attention. The iOS Podcast app doesn't allow me to delete certain podcasts from the downloads section. Seems like silly bug for the ecosystem that "just works".
- vscode-rest 9mo ago[dead]
- p_ing 9mo agoWhy is an oft-wrong rumor site which churns out clickbait left and right being pushed up on HN? There's no story, here. It has no reliable source and nothing coming directly from Apple. macrumors.com, 9to5mac.com should have been [dead].
- cindyllm 9mo ago[dead]
- joshuat 9mo agoBecause people want the rumor to be true
- apavlinovic 9mo agoWhy? They are incredibly amusing news sites that have been around for years, absolutely more correct than not correct. And it is called Mac RUMORS, not Mac CONFIRMED_PRESS_RELEASES. Alas, you should not blindly trust every leak and rumor.
- varispeed 9mo agoApple should focus on security and verifiability. At the moment, when another zero day for iOS is released, users have no way to check if their phones have been compromised. Meaning from security point of view Apple devices are not trustworthy. Apple should cease doing security by obscurity.
- vladde 9mo agoa couple years ago it felt like the iPhone just worked. currently, it's so buggy i can't ignore it. some of these which i encounter every day: - screen is dimmed when unlocked, then after a minute or so, goes to normal brightness - touch screen does not work when receiving calls, so i can't answer. same for alarms, where i have to use the volume buttons to snooze the alarm, then touch starts working so i can manually clear it - alarms not going off, or just being silent. so many time's i've woken up next to my phone being completely silent with the alarm interface being active - keyboard not appearing sometimes causing layout issues - using reduced transparency in Apple Music causes a huge empty area to appear in the bottom bar where the dynamic (?) "current song playing" appears - rearranging icons on the home screen feel like it's a 50/50 chance moving the icon actually succeeds. the other half of the times, the icon just returns to where ever it was before - re-arranging the control center do not register, or actions are delayed and makes it so un-intuitive what is going on some design things which are intended which annoy me so much are: - plugging in a charger will force show you the battery, so you can't use your phone for a few seconds - hold and dragging the keyboard spacebar to move the cursor has some delay until the keyboard returns to normal, and tapping the spacebar again (when i need to place a spacebar) resets the delay iMessage and AirDrop is so convenient, and the integration with AirPods is super clean. i would really like to continue using iPhone, but every day i feel somewhat depressed over how laggy iOS is :(
- asciimov 9mo agoThat could is doing a lot of heavy lifting. If they can't get my keyboard to stop replacing in with inn I don't think they are going to magically fix the battery life hit that comes with every ios update.
- r0fl 9mo agoI'm shocked to see this as the top comment. My entire household is on Apple devices. There are over a dozen products with keyboards (physical or virtual) and no one has ever had in replaced with inn. Where does it even happen? Can you create a keyboard shortcut or solve it with some LLM help?
- Herring 9mo agoI think it’s like Amazon reviews. Nobody has a 100% rating, there’s always something, and that’s what gets the attention.
- hshdhdhj4444 9mo agoApple’s keyboard problems are very evident. There are videos showing some very blatant flaws. But I suspect there are Apple homers who are gonna defend Apple just like they defended the butterfly keyboards, right until the day Apple finally accepted it was broken and surprise, here’s a new laptop you can buy from Apple without the butterfly keyboard to replace your existing broken one. Or alternatively Apple will accept that the device was indeed broken but 5 years later, when people barely have their device anymore and if they do it’s not worth getting the replacement from Apple anyways because it’s outdated, like they did with the graphics cards in the laptops for several years.
- Herring 9mo agoI get what you’re saying, I’m saying you don’t know if the keyboard problems are affecting 0.3% or 30%. The internet makes both of those look the same, and yes Apple can’t be trusted. If we’re doing anecdotes I have no issues with my keyboards either.
- Dennip 9mo agoThere are SO many fundamentally bad/broken design decisions in iOS now, from simply infuriating to use elements to downright broken ones. The amount of times the keyboard just blocks some button, a setting is nested 5/6 menus deep, things that used to be slick no longer just work. I set alarms on my iPad sometimes, theres a floating popup, you can't dismiss it by clicking away like you would expect, you have to click the x, [image](https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/set-an-alarm-ipadec8a36cc/ipados https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/set-an-alarm-ipadec8a36...)
- bborud 9mo agoGiven that Apple tend to have long periods of crud accumulating and releases becoming slower, buggier and more annoying they should revamp their entire release process and make quality a more prominent part of the release process. Linux did so with its odd/even version numbering to signal which kernels were considered stable and which were development versions. For each major release cycle the longest part of the cycle should be focused on code quality and cleanup. So that people who depend on the stability of their operating environment can configure the software update process to just wait until a new OS release has gone through a bugfix AND cleanup cycle. Why spend more time on cleanup that on features? Well, so far it seems to have been the other way around. Which means that everyone has to waste a lot of time while some experimental OS is making your life miserable. People who want to use bleeding edge features can upgrade as soon as a new major release is dropped. But people like me, who depend on their phone and computer to make a living, would rather not be field-testing buggy, slow experimental code. And not to put too fine a point on it, iOS was crap. And from what I am hearing macOS Tahoe isn't worth the upgrade so I keep clicking away those annoying popups that try to get me to install it. Yeah, I get it, the guy from marketing isn't going to like it, but we could also stop pretending that every new major release is a gift to humanity. We don't think so and Apple knows it isn't so. Every release comes with dread. What will stop working this time? It isn't like Apple doesn't have the means to hire developers.
- jl6 9mo agoIf it’s true, then good for Apple. Pausing feature development to clean up tech debt is healthy. I worry that they’ll realize a 5% efficiency saving and then immediately spend it on a 10% inefficiency feature and sell the net result as “only 5% slower and our research tells us that is imperceptible”.
- Robdel12 9mo ago> according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. The entire Apple rumor world is based off this guys Sunday email.
- CharlesW 9mo agoYep, MacRumors is one of many bottom-feeders regurgitating rumors and half-truths from a fatter bottom-feeder, trading Apple hysteria for ad impressions. It's another small signal that the tech industry is now mostly eating itself.
- faebi 9mo agoReminds me of the "Apple has not fixed the macOS audio left/right balance bug for nearly 10 years" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39367460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39367460 or "NoTunes is a macOS application that will prevent Apple Music from launching" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40426621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40426621 There are so many annoyances allover already. Not Windows 11 level, but noticeably bad.
- RASBR89 9mo agoActually I don’t mind the way it looks. Performance seems even better.. but it has destroyed my battery life. I find it hard to believe it’s the transparencies causing the issue though as even just watching a video, it’s worse.
- gverrilla 9mo agoCurrent one is the last iPhone I'll ever own.
- wltr 9mo agoOf course, it would support only a couple of the most recent devices. Wouldn’t it? :)