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I tip great at sit-down restaurants. I don't tip at fast food places, or carry-outs where they don't actually provide and service, or at the oil change place.

I tip great at sit-down restaurants. I don't tip at fast food places, or carry-outs where they don't actually provide and service, or at the oil change place. Summary: if I didn't tip in a situation 10 years ago, I'm not going to start now.

kulahan 9mo ago
I tip my barista and budtender a dollar every visit, personally. I love those people though. Restaurants get 20% unless they fuck up, then it's 15%, unless it was absolutely egregious. That's it. I cut my own hair.
- kstrauser 9mo ago
  My barber earns his fat tip taming my unruly cowlicks. Barista and bartender? Definitely. Cashier at a convenience store? Oh hell no.
  - eclipticplane 9mo ago
    My barber earns his fat tip by being my therapist.
    - kstrauser 9mo ago
      I get it. That's worth the compensation.
- codazoda 9mo ago
  I also cut my own hair, but sometimes I’m lazy and just hit up the Barber shop. She charges me $15! I tip +$25 and it’s still a cheap haircut. My haircut has to be one of the simplest around, but 9 out of 10 stylists will leave me fixing it myself later. Once I paid $50+tip for the same cut at a swanky joint and STILL went home and fixed it. She doesn’t know what she’s worth.
- bigstrat2003 9mo ago
  IMO restaurant tips (and other service businesses) are 15% by default, 20% if they do well, 10% if they do poorly. If they do especially poorly (like, completely ignoring the table for an hour while chatting with coworkers off to the side), they get $.02. If they do especially well, more than 20% (I've gone as high as 50% once).
  - elAhmo 9mo ago
    This mentality of doing 20% by default for something you already paid is what got us in this situation. People should be paid a living wage by default.
    - kulahan 9mo ago
      Once someone can tell me what, specifically, a living wage is, I imagine this will stop being the most annoying phrase on the planet.
      - ebonnafoux 9mo ago
        There can be a lot of definition but I propose " a wage where you do not need to annoy your customer for tip".
      - Yizahi 9mo ago
        Do you tip your local cashier in the groceries store? Do you tip the bus driver who took you to work? Do you tip a bank clerk who processed your application? If no, then this is a living wage. Also not having "tips" prevents freeloaders from not paying taxes, which every other worker in the country pays fairly.
  - rudolftheone 9mo ago
    You understand that you are PAYING EXTRA for the especially poor service?
- Larrikin 9mo ago
  Have you taken into account that tips are no longer taxed and adjusted these arbitrary percentages?
  - PopAlongKid 9mo ago
    >tips are no longer taxed Tips (if reported) are always subject to 7.65% FICA tax. And there are several conditions that must be met before tips are excluded from federal (not necessarily state) income tax. (U.S. tax law). In short, many tips are still fully taxed despite false promises to the contrary.
- hbs18 9mo ago
  As a European, I never understood why you'd tip automatically. I get that waiters are allowed to be paid less, but I don't see why that would be the customer's problem.
  - latexr 9mo ago
    I also don’t get the logic of tipping a percentage of the cost. Asking for several cheap beers is more work for the waiter than a single bottle of expensive wine, yet the latter earns them more?
  - kulahan 9mo ago
    Because it's part of our culture and it's an easy way to show appreciation. You don't have to do it anywhere. Waiters also explicitly aren't allowed to be paid less. They must make at LEAST minimum wage. If they don't make minimum after tips, their hourly rate is raised each paycheck to equal minimum wage. It's literally not the customer's problem. You should probably learn how things work here if you're that curious!
    - Yizahi 9mo ago
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      - basilikum 9mo ago
        If you have something to add to the conversation then just do that. Don't make bad faith interpretations and unsubstantiated accusations against people.
        nobody9999 9mo ago
        >If you have something to add to the conversation then just do that. Don't make bad faith interpretations and unsubstantiated accusations against people. You mean like you just did? Tipping culture in the US is absolutely rooted in bigotry[0][1][2][3][4][5][6][7]. That's not a "bad faith interpretation," it's well-documented history. [0] https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/ https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/ [1] https://www.povertylaw.org/article/the-racist-history-behind-americas-tipping-culture/ https://www.povertylaw.org/article/the-racist-history-behind... [2] https://stop-tipping.org/history-of-tipping/ https://stop-tipping.org/history-of-tipping/ [3] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-b... [4] https://inequality.org/article/tipping-is-racist-and-harms-us-all/ https://inequality.org/article/tipping-is-racist-and-harms-u... [5] https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-racist-history-of-tipping https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-racist-histor... [6] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage-cbsn-originals-documentary/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage... [7] https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/ https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurant...
IshKebab 9mo ago
In the UK the sort-of rule is that you tip for 10% food if you pay after receiving it (and that's pretty much the only situation where anyone tips). It seems like since the pandemic even that is less expected though, which is nice.
- roryirvine 9mo ago
  Taxis used to expect tips, black cab drivers often still do. People used to play this whole unpleasant game of saying "round it up to £30 if you do me a receipt", and the driver providing a fistful of blank receipts in return - almost as if expenses fiddling was less shameful than tipping. Thankfully, the likes of Uber and mandatory card payment terminals in cabs have ended all that.
  - Symbiote 9mo ago
    I think people also used to tip the postman, newspaper boy and binmen at Christmas.
    - roryirvine 9mo ago
      Oh, yeah. And I remember a columnist in one of the Sunday papers in the late 90s talking about tipping the butcher for the Christmas goose, but I think that was probably a bit of a "look how old-fashioned I am!" affectation even back then.

kulahan 9mo ago

I tip my barista and budtender a dollar every visit, personally. I love those people though. Restaurants get 20% unless they fuck up, then it's 15%, unless it was absolutely egregious. That's it. I cut my own hair.

kstrauser 9mo ago
My barber earns his fat tip taming my unruly cowlicks. Barista and bartender? Definitely. Cashier at a convenience store? Oh hell no.
- eclipticplane 9mo ago
  My barber earns his fat tip by being my therapist.
  - kstrauser 9mo ago
    I get it. That's worth the compensation.
codazoda 9mo ago
I also cut my own hair, but sometimes I’m lazy and just hit up the Barber shop. She charges me $15! I tip +$25 and it’s still a cheap haircut. My haircut has to be one of the simplest around, but 9 out of 10 stylists will leave me fixing it myself later. Once I paid $50+tip for the same cut at a swanky joint and STILL went home and fixed it. She doesn’t know what she’s worth.
bigstrat2003 9mo ago
IMO restaurant tips (and other service businesses) are 15% by default, 20% if they do well, 10% if they do poorly. If they do especially poorly (like, completely ignoring the table for an hour while chatting with coworkers off to the side), they get $.02. If they do especially well, more than 20% (I've gone as high as 50% once).
- elAhmo 9mo ago
  This mentality of doing 20% by default for something you already paid is what got us in this situation. People should be paid a living wage by default.
  - kulahan 9mo ago
    Once someone can tell me what, specifically, a living wage is, I imagine this will stop being the most annoying phrase on the planet.
    - ebonnafoux 9mo ago
      There can be a lot of definition but I propose " a wage where you do not need to annoy your customer for tip".
    - Yizahi 9mo ago
      Do you tip your local cashier in the groceries store? Do you tip the bus driver who took you to work? Do you tip a bank clerk who processed your application? If no, then this is a living wage. Also not having "tips" prevents freeloaders from not paying taxes, which every other worker in the country pays fairly.
- rudolftheone 9mo ago
  You understand that you are PAYING EXTRA for the especially poor service?
Larrikin 9mo ago
Have you taken into account that tips are no longer taxed and adjusted these arbitrary percentages?
- PopAlongKid 9mo ago
  >tips are no longer taxed Tips (if reported) are always subject to 7.65% FICA tax. And there are several conditions that must be met before tips are excluded from federal (not necessarily state) income tax. (U.S. tax law). In short, many tips are still fully taxed despite false promises to the contrary.
hbs18 9mo ago
As a European, I never understood why you'd tip automatically. I get that waiters are allowed to be paid less, but I don't see why that would be the customer's problem.
- latexr 9mo ago
  I also don’t get the logic of tipping a percentage of the cost. Asking for several cheap beers is more work for the waiter than a single bottle of expensive wine, yet the latter earns them more?
- kulahan 9mo ago
  Because it's part of our culture and it's an easy way to show appreciation. You don't have to do it anywhere. Waiters also explicitly aren't allowed to be paid less. They must make at LEAST minimum wage. If they don't make minimum after tips, their hourly rate is raised each paycheck to equal minimum wage. It's literally not the customer's problem. You should probably learn how things work here if you're that curious!
  - Yizahi 9mo ago
    [flagged]
    - basilikum 9mo ago
      If you have something to add to the conversation then just do that. Don't make bad faith interpretations and unsubstantiated accusations against people.
      - nobody9999 9mo ago
        >If you have something to add to the conversation then just do that. Don't make bad faith interpretations and unsubstantiated accusations against people. You mean like you just did? Tipping culture in the US is absolutely rooted in bigotry[0][1][2][3][4][5][6][7]. That's not a "bad faith interpretation," it's well-documented history. [0] https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/ https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/ [1] https://www.povertylaw.org/article/the-racist-history-behind-americas-tipping-culture/ https://www.povertylaw.org/article/the-racist-history-behind... [2] https://stop-tipping.org/history-of-tipping/ https://stop-tipping.org/history-of-tipping/ [3] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-b... [4] https://inequality.org/article/tipping-is-racist-and-harms-us-all/ https://inequality.org/article/tipping-is-racist-and-harms-u... [5] https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-racist-history-of-tipping https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-racist-histor... [6] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage-cbsn-originals-documentary/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage... [7] https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/ https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurant...

IshKebab 9mo ago

In the UK the sort-of rule is that you tip for 10% food if you pay after receiving it (and that's pretty much the only situation where anyone tips). It seems like since the pandemic even that is less expected though, which is nice.

roryirvine 9mo ago
Taxis used to expect tips, black cab drivers often still do. People used to play this whole unpleasant game of saying "round it up to £30 if you do me a receipt", and the driver providing a fistful of blank receipts in return - almost as if expenses fiddling was less shameful than tipping. Thankfully, the likes of Uber and mandatory card payment terminals in cabs have ended all that.
- Symbiote 9mo ago
  I think people also used to tip the postman, newspaper boy and binmen at Christmas.
  - roryirvine 9mo ago
    Oh, yeah. And I remember a columnist in one of the Sunday papers in the late 90s talking about tipping the butcher for the Christmas goose, but I think that was probably a bit of a "look how old-fashioned I am!" affectation even back then.