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>. "The FAA and DOW acted swiftly to address a cartel drone incursion. The threat has been neutralized, and there is no danger to commercial travel in the regi
by boringg 8mo ago
>. "The FAA and DOW acted swiftly to address a cartel drone incursion.
The threat has been neutralized, and there is no danger to commercial travel in the region.
The restrictions have been lifted and normal flights are resuming."
https://x.com/SecDuffy https://x.com/SecDuffy
- ajross 8mo ago[flagged]
- boringg 8mo agoI'm merely passing on live information to update the conversation. Don't shoot the messenger.
- ajross 8mo agoAnd I was merely commenting on the likely veracity of the quote you posted. No shooting happening here.
- pavel_lishin 8mo agoHackerNews will be shut down for 10 days as we deploy counter-messenger technology.
- codys 8mo agoIt seems like the messenger might endorse the message though, and is attempting to be coy. Folks should be careful of people using the "messenger" title to attempt to obtain the appearance of impartiality.
- boringg 8mo agoThats true - and I noticed that (but I wanted clarity from shots fired). Though the other follow on comments are interesting - say I may or may not endorse by how I wrote it, that my grammar/punctuation (it was just a fast cut copy) makes it look like i'm endorsing. My comment is a non statement but people are clearly riled up these days.
- mrWiz 8mo agoIs it OK to comment on and critique the message, though?
- yunnpp 8mo agoWhen you have multiple paragraphs in a quotation, each paragraph must start with a quote. Only the last paragraph in the quotation ends with a quote. Just pick up any book with dialogue in it and see for yourself. This is why I think your comment came across as you personally endorsing the official statement; it's not clear at first glance where the quote ends. The correct/incorrect placing of quotes is the kind of subtle thing that would lead someone to interpret one thing or the other without actually realizing what just happened.
- mercanlIl 8mo agoWhich writing style standard does that correspond to? This is an internet discussion board with people from diverse backgrounds. Informal quotation style is common. Your comment is the first time I’ve seen someone assert that new paragraphs should start with a quote.
- phlakaton 8mo agoIt's common practice when dealing with sites and clients that don't have fancy quoting features, going all the way back to USENET forums and probably before. It avoids just this ambiguity when you might be mixing quote and commentary.
- notpushkin 8mo agoHmm, honestly I’ve mostly seen > used for quotations in plain-text-y environments. Not sure about USENET, but ever since email it seems to be the de-facto standard everywhere. (On HN, I mostly see >, italics, or monospace as the quotation indicators.)
- notpushkin 8mo agoNot sure which particular standard it is but it is a thing. Agreed that it’s nitpicking though, it’s pretty easy to understand the boundaries of the quotation either way.
- yunnpp 8mo ago
- schiffern 8mo ago> yup, it was a lie Note that Rep Crockett doesn't claim inside information, she was just entering a newspaper article into the record. Presumably you also want to fact-check the newspaper article. https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/11/el-paso-air-space-closed-faa/ https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/11/el-paso-air-space-cl...
- noelsusman 8mo agoDoesn't really pass the sniff test. Why would you need a 10 day closure to deal with a drone incursion? I'm guessing DoD and the FAA were squabbling over a test the military wanted to run, and it didn't go up the chain fast enough to get resolved before testing was scheduled to begin. Edit: Here's the actual notice from the FAA[1]. Note that it was issued at 0332 UTC, but the restrictions weren't scheduled to go into place until 0630 UTC. Either the FAA is clairvoyant, or Sean Duffy is lying. [1]https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr3/?page=detail_6_2233 https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr3/?page=detail_6_2233
- indoordin0saur 8mo agoWas it meant to be "up to 10 days" rather than 10 days? If the drones are no longer flying over the airport it makes sense they'd open it back up.
- noelsusman 8mo agoThe closure was for 10 days full stop. I can't think of a reason to do that in response to an active threat.
- schiffern 8mo agoThis is OpSec 101. Making the public closure too "tight" around the operational timeline could (negligently) leak operational details. You can always cancel a closure later.
- iAMkenough 8mo agoIs saying "indefinitely" or "until further notice" any worse than "10 days?" The specificity of the timeline was what caught my eye.
- vachina 8mo agoIndefinitely infers permanence. You’ll scare everyone off with that language.
- dragonwriter 8mo ago“Threat” might be an exaggeration. https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-shot-down-party-balloon-el-paso-drone-reports-11506981 https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-shot-down-party-balloon...
- lysace 8mo agoFox News first reported that the airborne object was intercepted after raising concerns of a potential drone operating near the southern border. Officials later concluded the object was not an unmanned aircraft but a party balloon, a U.S. official told the outlet. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-military-shot-down-party-balloon-near-el-paso-after-suspecting-drone-official-says https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-military-shot-down-party... US military shot down party balloon near El Paso after drone suspicion, official says Would be funny if they used some new fancy laser weapon to, let's say, discombobulate this imminent threat, as indicated by other reports.
- golem14 8mo ago99 Luftballons
- lysace 8mo agoThe lyrics of the original German version tell a story: 99 balloons are mistaken for UFOs, causing a military general to send pilots to investigate. Finding nothing but balloons, the pilots put on a large show of firepower. The display of force worries the nations along the borders and the defence ministers on each side encourage conflict to grab power for themselves. In the end, a cataclysmic war results from the otherwise harmless flight of balloons and causes devastation on all sides without a victor, as indicated in the denouement of the song: "99 Jahre Krieg ließen keinen Platz für Sieger," which means "99 years of war left no room for victors." The anti-war song finishes with the singer walking through the devastated ruins of the world and finding a single balloon. The description of what happens in the final line of the piece is the same in German and English: "'Denk' an dich und lass' ihn fliegen," or "Think of you and let it go." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Luftballons#Lyrics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Luftballons#Lyrics)
- assaddayinh 8mo agoDrug smuggling shaheeds close to the ground..