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Yeah, I've been warning everyone about the consequences but nobody wanted to hear it. So do people still want a general social media ban for teens?

qball 9mo ago
Everybody hates teenagers, so yes. It's not really about protecting them; people that claim this is the case are generally doing so to launder that hatred.
- AlexandrB 9mo ago
  This is the kind of thing I would have posted while in High School.
- eimrine 9mo ago
  Brilliant observation! I would like to make the statement more precise: not hate/hatred but jealousy.
- JoshTriplett 9mo ago
  They're not hated, they're just treated as non-entities that aren't assumed to have or need any agency. People under 18 are the largest disenfranchised block of citizens.
  - johnnyanmac 9mo ago
    I mean, yes. Because we don't give kids all their rights yet. That's fair in many regards (not all. Having schools able to silence dissent legally feels all sorts of wrong). It also add protections, like not letting a 12 yo work in a coal mine or be sent to war. More importantly, it's a powerful political spin used to justify often heinous actions. People want to protect kids.
Gud 9mo ago
Absolutely. Social media and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race. Ban it for everyone.
- add-sub-mul-div 9mo ago
  The loss of all anonymity and privacy on the internet is much worse than this generation's version of the "won't someone think of the children" scare. It's wild how many people are eating this up.
  - spockz 9mo ago
    The one (teenage verification for specific services such as social media) does not require the other (require uploading ids to every site on the internet). For one, the scope is limited and secondly, there must be different schemes possible.
  - Gud 9mo ago
    I’m not suggesting “upload an id”. I’m suggesting ban all these brain slugs outright. Make META a criminal organization. Put Zuckerberg behind bars.
    - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
      Yes we should give the government more power and put up “The Great American Firewall” so Americans can’t use any foreign Facebook like companies.
    - add-sub-mul-div 9mo ago
      I didn't respond to the suggestion of absolute prohibition because it's too ridiculous a concept to take seriously.
      - vjekm 9mo ago
        It's the only reasonable thing to do; the status quo is what's ridiculous.
        ikety 9mo ago
        What if there is simply nothing that can be done? I don't mean to sound defeatist, but what if there are some things that truly are like pandora's box. We can't put the lid back on. All we can do is educated people on how to use the tools correctly
mywittyname 9mo ago
ID verification for sites that where people speak the truth. Cesspit of AI-driven "validated" accounts for pushing propaganda. It's the worst of both worlds.
everdrive 9mo ago
Nope, I want the social media companies to be shut down, I want smart phones to go away permanently, and I don't want kids to be handed laptops or ipads in school.
dyauspitr 9mo ago
Absolutely, who gives a shit about some platforms on the internet.

qball 9mo ago

Everybody hates teenagers, so yes. It's not really about protecting them; people that claim this is the case are generally doing so to launder that hatred.

AlexandrB 9mo ago
This is the kind of thing I would have posted while in High School.
eimrine 9mo ago
Brilliant observation! I would like to make the statement more precise: not hate/hatred but jealousy.
JoshTriplett 9mo ago
They're not hated, they're just treated as non-entities that aren't assumed to have or need any agency. People under 18 are the largest disenfranchised block of citizens.
- johnnyanmac 9mo ago
  I mean, yes. Because we don't give kids all their rights yet. That's fair in many regards (not all. Having schools able to silence dissent legally feels all sorts of wrong). It also add protections, like not letting a 12 yo work in a coal mine or be sent to war. More importantly, it's a powerful political spin used to justify often heinous actions. People want to protect kids.

Gud 9mo ago

Absolutely. Social media and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race. Ban it for everyone.

add-sub-mul-div 9mo ago
The loss of all anonymity and privacy on the internet is much worse than this generation's version of the "won't someone think of the children" scare. It's wild how many people are eating this up.
- spockz 9mo ago
  The one (teenage verification for specific services such as social media) does not require the other (require uploading ids to every site on the internet). For one, the scope is limited and secondly, there must be different schemes possible.
- Gud 9mo ago
  I’m not suggesting “upload an id”. I’m suggesting ban all these brain slugs outright. Make META a criminal organization. Put Zuckerberg behind bars.
  - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
    Yes we should give the government more power and put up “The Great American Firewall” so Americans can’t use any foreign Facebook like companies.
  - add-sub-mul-div 9mo ago
    I didn't respond to the suggestion of absolute prohibition because it's too ridiculous a concept to take seriously.
    - vjekm 9mo ago
      It's the only reasonable thing to do; the status quo is what's ridiculous.
      - ikety 9mo ago
        What if there is simply nothing that can be done? I don't mean to sound defeatist, but what if there are some things that truly are like pandora's box. We can't put the lid back on. All we can do is educated people on how to use the tools correctly

mywittyname 9mo ago

ID verification for sites that where people speak the truth. Cesspit of AI-driven "validated" accounts for pushing propaganda. It's the worst of both worlds.

everdrive 9mo ago

Nope, I want the social media companies to be shut down, I want smart phones to go away permanently, and I don't want kids to be handed laptops or ipads in school.

dyauspitr 9mo ago

Absolutely, who gives a shit about some platforms on the internet.