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I'm not talking about video editing software; that's a different class of software. I'm talking about other generative AI models, which you can download today o

I'm not talking about video editing software; that's a different class of software. I'm talking about other generative AI models, which you can download today onto your computer, and have it do the same thing as Grok does. > How is this exoneration? I don't know; you tell me where I said it was? I'm just stating a fact that Grok isn't unique here, and if you want to ban Grok because of it then you need to also ban open weight models which can do exactly the same thing.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> that's a different class of software. I'm talking about other generative AI models And the article is talking about a social media site. A different class of software and company. > if you want to ban Grok Straw man. Nobody has suggested this.
- Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
  I think he is talking about France who does very much seem like they want to ban X and Grok?
  - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
    > France who does very much seem like they want to ban X and Grok? Source? I’m not seeing that in the French-language press.
  - direwolf20 9mo ago
    If Grok is a child pornography tool then it will be banned. If Elon doesn't want Grok to be banned, he can disable the child pornography feature.
    - Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
      Agreed, thankfully, there is no CSAM feature, and they patched it in a couple of days so that it would stop obeying requests to do so and banned the users abusing Grok for that purpose. Once they prove they have put the appropriate mechanisms in place to make sure it doesn't happen again it's fine and dandy, no?
      - direwolf20 9mo ago
        If by patched you mean he made it cost money.
        Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
        Can you go on Twitter right now and generate CSAM using Grok?
      - dragonwriter 9mo ago
        > Agreed, thankfully, there is no CSAM feature, and they patched it in a couple of days so that it would stop obeying requests to do so and banned the users abusing Grok for that purpose. The order, over several days, was: * banned users and took down tweets requesting the content, without taking down the content that they clearly knew of, since they responded against the requests that generated it. * Made the feature paid-only. * Took down content and restricted the functionality. > Once they prove they have put the appropriate mechanisms in place to make sure it doesn't happen again it's fine and dandy, no? I’m not sure all jurisdictions involved will see knowing generation and dissemination of nonconsensual, including child, pornography as the kind of thing where “I promise not to do itt again, so we’re cool, right?” works, but we’ll see.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago

> that's a different class of software. I'm talking about other generative AI models And the article is talking about a social media site. A different class of software and company. > if you want to ban Grok Straw man. Nobody has suggested this.

Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
I think he is talking about France who does very much seem like they want to ban X and Grok?
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
  > France who does very much seem like they want to ban X and Grok? Source? I’m not seeing that in the French-language press.
- direwolf20 9mo ago
  If Grok is a child pornography tool then it will be banned. If Elon doesn't want Grok to be banned, he can disable the child pornography feature.
  - Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
    Agreed, thankfully, there is no CSAM feature, and they patched it in a couple of days so that it would stop obeying requests to do so and banned the users abusing Grok for that purpose. Once they prove they have put the appropriate mechanisms in place to make sure it doesn't happen again it's fine and dandy, no?
    - direwolf20 9mo ago
      If by patched you mean he made it cost money.
      - Pedro_Ribeiro 9mo ago
        Can you go on Twitter right now and generate CSAM using Grok?
    - dragonwriter 9mo ago
      > Agreed, thankfully, there is no CSAM feature, and they patched it in a couple of days so that it would stop obeying requests to do so and banned the users abusing Grok for that purpose. The order, over several days, was: * banned users and took down tweets requesting the content, without taking down the content that they clearly knew of, since they responded against the requests that generated it. * Made the feature paid-only. * Took down content and restricted the functionality. > Once they prove they have put the appropriate mechanisms in place to make sure it doesn't happen again it's fine and dandy, no? I’m not sure all jurisdictions involved will see knowing generation and dissemination of nonconsensual, including child, pornography as the kind of thing where “I promise not to do itt again, so we’re cool, right?” works, but we’ll see.