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RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.
by stonogo 9mo ago
RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.
- umeshunni 9mo agoIf your job wants you to fly, it should buy you an id that lets you fly. Have you never applied for a visa to travel on a business trip?
- stonogo 9mo agoyes, if there's one thing the working poor are known for, it's successfully extracting money from their employers. if uber wants you to rideshare, they should buy you a car, right?
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoHow many “working poor” have jobs that require business travel?
- stonogo 9mo agoIf the answer is more than "zero" then the fee is harmful. Since I've been in similar positions (specifically as a contractor, where I had to front-load expenses and submit for reimbursement), it seems pretty likely to me.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoYes so we are going to optimize an entire system for this mythical “working poor” business traveler? Every contractor has to do that. That’s the price you pay for going into that business (reason #999 thet while I work in cloud consulting I work full time for consulting companies). Even as a business traveler, I have to pay my own expenses and wait for reimbursement.
- stonogo 9mo agoI wasn't aware anyone had made the argument that this was an attempt to optimize anything. It's pretty obvious nobody's optimized anything in the TSA, ever.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoIt’s pretty optimal if you have TSA PreCheck + digital ID. I fly in and out of ATL - the busiest airport in the US and one of the busiest in the world - I walk up to the TSA line, look at the camera , scan my ticket. Then I take my wallet and my phone out of my pocket and put in my book bag, let it go through the scanner I walk through the scanner and grab my bookbag This is the same process we did flying back from Costa Rica and London last year with the addition of showing our passport. Everyone acts like this process is so much different than any other country. Except for not having my book bag on me, it’s the same process to get on the “Chunnel” from London to Paris
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoAre you saying our state offers both RealID and none RealID driver’s licenses?
- tfryman 9mo agoI know for a fact Kentucky offers both.
- hamdingers 9mo agoAll states do (for now). Not everyone qualified to drive is capable of proving their identity to the level RealID requires.
- ibejoeb 9mo agoAs far as I know, Florida does not issue documents that are not REAL ID compliant.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoAnd this is the same state that said they will have drivers license tests in English only
- ibejoeb 9mo agoThat would be sensible if the traffic signs were in English.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoTraffic signs have symbols and shapes. You are allowed to drive in the US with an international drivers license if you don’t speak English. Are they going to arrest someone who doesn’t speak English and got a license in another state?
- AngryData 9mo agoOnly if being illiterate also forbade you from driving, which it does not. You don't need to read the law to follow the law.
- Aurornis 9mo ago> RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Where is that? I’m curious. Around here, RealID is just what you’re issued when you renew various forms of ID. I don’t even recall an option to get a non-RealID version.
- QuadmasterXLII 9mo agofor what its worth, my state made it unpleasant enough that it was easier to just got a non-real id and a renew the ol passport
- nxobject 9mo agoI'm in Oregon, and that's the case - about $30 extra. More people than you think don't have access to supplemental documentation required to meet extra requirements – people who don't have current travel documents, people who've just moved into town, people who don't have current documentation of address (e.g. the homeless, people in the foster care system, etc.) It's pragmatic to have: plenty of people don't or can't fly, and the cost of supporting this option is marginal.
- fc417fc802 9mo ago> More people than you think don't have access to supplemental documentation required to meet extra requirements I have access but deliberately choose not to provide it. Growing up I was told something about voting with my feet. Not so sure it works very well in practice though.
- hansvm 9mo agoIn CA it was cheaper and (far) easier to get a normal license and a passport.
- FireBeyond 9mo agoWashington State. $7/yr more for a Real ID license - $42 more the 6 year license and $60 more for the 10. https://dol.wa.gov/driver-licenses-and-permits/driver-licensing-fees https://dol.wa.gov/driver-licenses-and-permits/driver-licens...