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For me, this is the major selling point to own a car. I may drive a few times a week, and taxis might be much cheaper, but no way I'm going to deal with human t

by nvch 8mo ago

For me, this is the major selling point to own a car. I may drive a few times a week, and taxis might be much cheaper, but no way I'm going to deal with human taxi drivers if I have a choice.

catlover76 8mo ago
Taxis are not a replacement for having a car for commuting for like 99% of people
bandofthehawk 8mo ago
This seems weird to me, maybe it's a generational thing. Is it really that bad to share a car with someone? You don't have to talk to them the whole time.
- minwcnt5 8mo ago
  "Yes it is that bad" - every woman I've ever talked to.
- robcohen 8mo ago
  Personally, I find it odd to have interactions with anyone just based of transactionality. I want to interact with people because I have relationships with them. I've always found it hard to figure out exactly how nice to be with someone you don't know. I don't think this is a maladjustment on my part, I think you probably shouldn't be overly nice to people before you establish trust with them... and that takes time.
- seanmcdirmid 8mo ago
  The human driver could be nodding off because they didn’t bother sleeping last night, or maybe they just had some food with lots of garlic, or…ya, this has all happened to me before. I’ll take the Waymo over uber.
  - socalgal2 8mo ago
    I've had one driving while reading their phone and checking stocks and looking up for about 1/2 a second of every 4 seconds.
- yfdrea 8mo ago
  As a woman, while 95% of the ridesharing trips I take are perfectly pleasant and sometimes great with conversation the 5% of rides where you are trapped in a car with a creep asking you extremely off putting questions sours the entire concept of ride sharing for me.
  - Arete314159 8mo ago
    Same. Ever been a vulnerable woman stuck in a car with a man who starts ranting that "nobody wants to date men who aren't rich anymore" and it turns out the driver is angry because the women that are trapped as riders won't go out with him? Or how about, "Nice place...you live alone here?" Absolutely would choose the robot.
  - GuinansEyebrows 8mo ago
    the situations you've described and the fact that our answer as a society is seemingly to throw up our hands at our inability to solve these situations other than by increasing the number of cars on the road in a way that funnels even more wealth to a tiny group of unfathomably wealthy sociopaths who also use ourour personal information to impact our spending habits... very depressing. i really hate it here.
    - bsder 8mo ago
      Erm, what would you propose as an alternative answer? Presumably women are giving those creepy drivers bad ratings, and yet they are still on the road. So, that's clearly not working. Sure, the US should fix their transit system, but that doesn't help women now. So, the default answer becomes, "Get your own car, plebe." And that's super expensive and requires you to drive. Or, a woman can take a Waymo. I'm right there with you about hating the megajillionaires, but I'm open to hearing your alternative suggestions.
      - GuinansEyebrows 8mo ago
        arm all women :)
- overfeed 8mo ago
  > Is it really that bad to share a car with someone? Sometimes it is, and you never really know when. Some of my most unpleasant experiences involved a couple of reckless drivers, even more nutters who insisted on talking about their politics or pet peeves, I fear one of them may have gone beyond mere eccentricity and probably required some medical intervention, but couldn't figure out how to report that without possibly resulting in the driver being punished by the app.
  - wincy 8mo ago
    Hah, I had a 2am conversation with a woman from Argentina about Javier Milei which is one of my Uber riding highlights. But then another time a guy warned me not to open his glove box because his Glock was in there and he sounded deranged and it’s the one time I’ve literally gotten out of the car and cancelled my Uber. One female Uber driver told me about how she had to go to court because a drunk man threatened to stab her with a knife (that he was brandishing), then he passed out and the police had to haul him out of her car. The .1% ruin it for everyone else.
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- wincy 8mo ago
  The Uber Driver who told me all about his Glock in the glove box was pretty off putting. Also the Jeep that picked me up in August with broken air conditioning, although that was an annoyance vs “what is happening right now am I going to die”.
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- jaredklewis 8mo ago
  I’m fine to share a car. I’m less keen on dying in one. Riding in a car is easily the most dangerous thing I do in my daily life and my subjective impression of how well uber/lyft/taxi drivers drive is not great.
spwa4 8mo ago
I always (as soon as I could) owned a car, first on independence, but soon that became on price. A car costs between $350 and $500 per month, plus about 2 gas tanks, let's say $600. That's only 10-15 short taxi rides and two long taxi rides at best. And now I have a family, there's 5 of us. A car is easily less than half the price of public transport for what I need to do (because you pay per person). I hate traffic, and I don't really like driving, but since a car is easily 30 minutes faster than public transport to drive in to work, sadly 30 minutes of traffic in the morning is still faster than public transport, no matter how annoying it is. Oh and no waiting in the rain/cold is a nice bonus.
- kccqzy 8mo ago
  A car does not cost $350 and $500 per month. If it does, it’s a status symbol, not merely a tool to get from A to B, and therefore it is unfair to compare it against taxi rides. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a nicer more luxurious car for yourself. But it’s just ingenious to compare that against taxis with beaten-up and spartan but reliable cars.
  - graeme 8mo ago
    That's not outrageous as a car price once you add insurance, maintenance, taxes, parking, license fee, cleaning, etc Along with any interest on the purchase or foregone investment gains. You can use a true cost of ownership calculator here. https://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2022/cost-to-own/?style=401883321 https://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2022/cost-to-own/?style...
  - mschuster91 8mo ago
    > A car does not cost $350 and $500 per month. Insurance alone can be 100€ a month (and more so for younger drivers). At a very modest 5 liters / 100km and a one way route of 20 km you're at 800km a month / 40 liters of gas => 1.80€ a liter => 72€ in fuel. Your average car then has 20 ct/km for maintenance costs (inspections, spare parts, oil changes, tires, workshop time), so another 160€ a month - and more if it is a run-down junker car. That are just the fixed running costs you have with pretty much every car, around 330€ a month. We haven't talked about depreciation yet at all. Even if you say you buy a barely road worthy wreck for 3000 € and run it until it's only ripe for the junkyard to fetch maybe 500 € every two years, that's still about 100€ a month you're paying. And what we also haven't had a single talk about is operating and purchase taxes, highway tolls, city-core tolls, rental spots for parking (including the price you have paid for the garage in your house, it's a lot of real estate), that also can easily add to many hundreds of euros each year. Cars are expensive once you actually include replacement/depreciation and maintenance costs.

by nvch 8mo ago

For me, this is the major selling point to own a car. I may drive a few times a week, and taxis might be much cheaper, but no way I'm going to deal with human taxi drivers if I have a choice.

catlover76 8mo ago

Taxis are not a replacement for having a car for commuting for like 99% of people

bandofthehawk 8mo ago

This seems weird to me, maybe it's a generational thing. Is it really that bad to share a car with someone? You don't have to talk to them the whole time.

minwcnt5 8mo ago
"Yes it is that bad" - every woman I've ever talked to.
robcohen 8mo ago
Personally, I find it odd to have interactions with anyone just based of transactionality. I want to interact with people because I have relationships with them. I've always found it hard to figure out exactly how nice to be with someone you don't know. I don't think this is a maladjustment on my part, I think you probably shouldn't be overly nice to people before you establish trust with them... and that takes time.
seanmcdirmid 8mo ago
The human driver could be nodding off because they didn’t bother sleeping last night, or maybe they just had some food with lots of garlic, or…ya, this has all happened to me before. I’ll take the Waymo over uber.
- socalgal2 8mo ago
  I've had one driving while reading their phone and checking stocks and looking up for about 1/2 a second of every 4 seconds.
yfdrea 8mo ago
As a woman, while 95% of the ridesharing trips I take are perfectly pleasant and sometimes great with conversation the 5% of rides where you are trapped in a car with a creep asking you extremely off putting questions sours the entire concept of ride sharing for me.
- Arete314159 8mo ago
  Same. Ever been a vulnerable woman stuck in a car with a man who starts ranting that "nobody wants to date men who aren't rich anymore" and it turns out the driver is angry because the women that are trapped as riders won't go out with him? Or how about, "Nice place...you live alone here?" Absolutely would choose the robot.
- GuinansEyebrows 8mo ago
  the situations you've described and the fact that our answer as a society is seemingly to throw up our hands at our inability to solve these situations other than by increasing the number of cars on the road in a way that funnels even more wealth to a tiny group of unfathomably wealthy sociopaths who also use ourour personal information to impact our spending habits... very depressing. i really hate it here.
  - bsder 8mo ago
    Erm, what would you propose as an alternative answer? Presumably women are giving those creepy drivers bad ratings, and yet they are still on the road. So, that's clearly not working. Sure, the US should fix their transit system, but that doesn't help women now. So, the default answer becomes, "Get your own car, plebe." And that's super expensive and requires you to drive. Or, a woman can take a Waymo. I'm right there with you about hating the megajillionaires, but I'm open to hearing your alternative suggestions.
    - GuinansEyebrows 8mo ago
      arm all women :)
overfeed 8mo ago
> Is it really that bad to share a car with someone? Sometimes it is, and you never really know when. Some of my most unpleasant experiences involved a couple of reckless drivers, even more nutters who insisted on talking about their politics or pet peeves, I fear one of them may have gone beyond mere eccentricity and probably required some medical intervention, but couldn't figure out how to report that without possibly resulting in the driver being punished by the app.
- wincy 8mo ago
  Hah, I had a 2am conversation with a woman from Argentina about Javier Milei which is one of my Uber riding highlights. But then another time a guy warned me not to open his glove box because his Glock was in there and he sounded deranged and it’s the one time I’ve literally gotten out of the car and cancelled my Uber. One female Uber driver told me about how she had to go to court because a drunk man threatened to stab her with a knife (that he was brandishing), then he passed out and the police had to haul him out of her car. The .1% ruin it for everyone else.
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wincy 8mo ago
The Uber Driver who told me all about his Glock in the glove box was pretty off putting. Also the Jeep that picked me up in August with broken air conditioning, although that was an annoyance vs “what is happening right now am I going to die”.
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jaredklewis 8mo ago
I’m fine to share a car. I’m less keen on dying in one. Riding in a car is easily the most dangerous thing I do in my daily life and my subjective impression of how well uber/lyft/taxi drivers drive is not great.

spwa4 8mo ago

I always (as soon as I could) owned a car, first on independence, but soon that became on price. A car costs between $350 and $500 per month, plus about 2 gas tanks, let's say $600. That's only 10-15 short taxi rides and two long taxi rides at best. And now I have a family, there's 5 of us. A car is easily less than half the price of public transport for what I need to do (because you pay per person). I hate traffic, and I don't really like driving, but since a car is easily 30 minutes faster than public transport to drive in to work, sadly 30 minutes of traffic in the morning is still faster than public transport, no matter how annoying it is. Oh and no waiting in the rain/cold is a nice bonus.

kccqzy 8mo ago
A car does not cost $350 and $500 per month. If it does, it’s a status symbol, not merely a tool to get from A to B, and therefore it is unfair to compare it against taxi rides. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a nicer more luxurious car for yourself. But it’s just ingenious to compare that against taxis with beaten-up and spartan but reliable cars.
- graeme 8mo ago
  That's not outrageous as a car price once you add insurance, maintenance, taxes, parking, license fee, cleaning, etc Along with any interest on the purchase or foregone investment gains. You can use a true cost of ownership calculator here. https://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2022/cost-to-own/?style=401883321 https://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2022/cost-to-own/?style...
- mschuster91 8mo ago
  > A car does not cost $350 and $500 per month. Insurance alone can be 100€ a month (and more so for younger drivers). At a very modest 5 liters / 100km and a one way route of 20 km you're at 800km a month / 40 liters of gas => 1.80€ a liter => 72€ in fuel. Your average car then has 20 ct/km for maintenance costs (inspections, spare parts, oil changes, tires, workshop time), so another 160€ a month - and more if it is a run-down junker car. That are just the fixed running costs you have with pretty much every car, around 330€ a month. We haven't talked about depreciation yet at all. Even if you say you buy a barely road worthy wreck for 3000 € and run it until it's only ripe for the junkyard to fetch maybe 500 € every two years, that's still about 100€ a month you're paying. And what we also haven't had a single talk about is operating and purchase taxes, highway tolls, city-core tolls, rental spots for parking (including the price you have paid for the garage in your house, it's a lot of real estate), that also can easily add to many hundreds of euros each year. Cars are expensive once you actually include replacement/depreciation and maintenance costs.