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Methodology is one thing; I can't really agree that deploying an LLM to do sums is great. Almost as hilarious as asking "What's moon plus sun?" But phenomenon

Methodology is one thing; I can't really agree that deploying an LLM to do sums is great. Almost as hilarious as asking "What's moon plus sun?" But phenomenon is another thing. Apple's numerical APIs are producing inconsistent results on a minority of devices. This is something worth Apple's attention.

fatheranton 9mo ago
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JimboOmega 9mo ago
(This is a total digression, so apologies) My mind instantly answered that with "bright", which is what you get when you combine the sun and moon radicals to make 明(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%98%8E https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%98%8E) Anyway, that question is not without reasonable answers. "Full Moon" might make sense too. No obvious deterministic answer, though, naturally.
- awesome_dude 9mo ago
  FTR the Full Moon was exactly 5 hours ago (It's not without humour that this conversation occurs on the day of the full moon :)
- deleted 9mo ago
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- cgriswald 9mo ago
  In the game Clair Obscur sun plus moon equals twilight.
- butlike 9mo ago
  You could play Infinite Craft and find out what the game thinks it is: https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ Edit: Spoiler - It's 'Eclipse'
CrispinS 9mo ago
> What's moon plus sun? Eclipse, obviously.
- christophilus 9mo ago
  That’s sun minus moon. Moon plus sun is a wildly more massive, nuclear furnace of a moon that also engulfs the earth.
  - dcrazy 9mo ago
    This thread reminds me of Scribblenauts, the game where you conjure objects to solve puzzles by describing them. I suspect it was an inspiration for Baba Is You.
    - Der_Einzige 9mo ago
      Scribblenauts was also an early precursor to modern GenAI/word embeddings. I constantly bring it up in discussions of the history of AI for this reason.
      - veqq 9mo ago
        Could you explain? :3
  - mcny 9mo ago
    Wait so moon plus sun != sun plus moon? :Thinking:
    - chii 9mo ago
      celestial objects don't need to obey algebraic commutativity!
      - direwolf20 9mo ago
        I wonder if SCP-1313 does
idk1 9mo ago
As an aside, one of my very nice family members like tarot card reading, and I think you'd get an extremely different answer for - "What's moon plus sun?" - something like I would guess as they're opposites - "Mixed signals or insecurity get resolved by openness and real communication." - It's kind of fascinating, the range of answers to that question. As a couple of other people have mentioned, it could mean loads of things. I thought I'd add one in there. I'll just add that if you think this advice applies to you, it's the - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
nonoesp 9mo ago
> What's moon plus sun? "Monsoon," says ChatGPT.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  "moonsun" says JavaScript, 1-0 to JS I'd say.
TimByte 9mo ago
The scary part isn't "LLMs doing sums." It's that the same deterministic model, same weights, same prompt, same OS, produces different floating-point tensors on different devices
layer8 9mo ago
> Almost as hilarious as asking "What's moon plus sun?" It’s a reasonable Tarot question.

fatheranton 9mo ago

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JimboOmega 9mo ago

(This is a total digression, so apologies) My mind instantly answered that with "bright", which is what you get when you combine the sun and moon radicals to make 明(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%98%8E https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%98%8E) Anyway, that question is not without reasonable answers. "Full Moon" might make sense too. No obvious deterministic answer, though, naturally.

awesome_dude 9mo ago
FTR the Full Moon was exactly 5 hours ago (It's not without humour that this conversation occurs on the day of the full moon :)
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cgriswald 9mo ago
In the game Clair Obscur sun plus moon equals twilight.
butlike 9mo ago
You could play Infinite Craft and find out what the game thinks it is: https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ Edit: Spoiler - It's 'Eclipse'

CrispinS 9mo ago

> What's moon plus sun? Eclipse, obviously.

christophilus 9mo ago
That’s sun minus moon. Moon plus sun is a wildly more massive, nuclear furnace of a moon that also engulfs the earth.
- dcrazy 9mo ago
  This thread reminds me of Scribblenauts, the game where you conjure objects to solve puzzles by describing them. I suspect it was an inspiration for Baba Is You.
  - Der_Einzige 9mo ago
    Scribblenauts was also an early precursor to modern GenAI/word embeddings. I constantly bring it up in discussions of the history of AI for this reason.
    - veqq 9mo ago
      Could you explain? :3
- mcny 9mo ago
  Wait so moon plus sun != sun plus moon? :Thinking:
  - chii 9mo ago
    celestial objects don't need to obey algebraic commutativity!
    - direwolf20 9mo ago
      I wonder if SCP-1313 does

idk1 9mo ago

As an aside, one of my very nice family members like tarot card reading, and I think you'd get an extremely different answer for - "What's moon plus sun?" - something like I would guess as they're opposites - "Mixed signals or insecurity get resolved by openness and real communication." - It's kind of fascinating, the range of answers to that question. As a couple of other people have mentioned, it could mean loads of things. I thought I'd add one in there. I'll just add that if you think this advice applies to you, it's the - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect

nonoesp 9mo ago

> What's moon plus sun? "Monsoon," says ChatGPT.

embedding-shape 9mo ago
"moonsun" says JavaScript, 1-0 to JS I'd say.

TimByte 9mo ago

The scary part isn't "LLMs doing sums." It's that the same deterministic model, same weights, same prompt, same OS, produces different floating-point tensors on different devices

layer8 9mo ago

> Almost as hilarious as asking "What's moon plus sun?" It’s a reasonable Tarot question.