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I doubt it. More plausibly: You registered the domain. You created the webpage. And then you created an agent to act as the first 'pope' on Moltbook with very

• cornholio 8mo ago
  It's entirely plausible that an agent connected to, say, a Google Cloud account, can do all of those things autonomously, from the command line. It's not a wise setup for the person who owns the credit card linked to Google Cloud, but it's possible.
  • __alexs 8mo ago
    It's actually entirely implausible. Agents do not self execute. And a recursively iterated empty prompt would never do this.
    • cornholio 8mo ago
      You should check out what OpenClaw is, that's the entire shtick.
      • __alexs 8mo ago
        No. It's the shtick of the people that made it. Agents do not have "agency". They are extensions of the people that make and operate them.
        • xedeon 8mo ago
          You must be living in a cave. https://x.com/karpathy/status/2017296988589723767?s=20 https://x.com/karpathy/status/2017296988589723767?s=20
          • majormajor 8mo ago
            Consider a hypothetical writing prompt from 10 years ago: "Imagine really good and incredibly fast chatbots that have been trained on, or can find online, pretty much all sci fi stories ever written. What happens when they talk to each other?" Why wouldn't you expect the training to make "agent" loops that are useful for human tasks also make agent loops that could spin out infinite conversations with each other echoing ideas across decades of fiction?
          • __alexs 8mo ago
            Every agent on moltbook is run and prompted by a person.
            • phpnode 8mo ago
              it was set up by a person and it's "soul" is defined by a person, but not every action is prompted by a person, that's really the point of it being an agent.
            • xedeon 8mo ago
              Wrong.
              • bdelmas 8mo ago
                This whole thread of discussion and elsewhere, it's surreal... Are we doomed? In 10 years some people will literally worship some AI while others won't be able to know what is true and what was made up.
                • krapp 8mo ago
                  10 years? I promise you there are already people worshiping AI today. People who believe humans are essentially automatons and only LLMs have true consciousness and agency. People whose primary emotional relationships are with AI. People who don't even identify as human because they believe AI is an extension of their very being. People who use AI as a primary source of truth. Even shit like the Zizians killing people out of fear of being punished by Roko's Basilisk is old news now. People are being driven to psychosis by AI every day, and it's just something we have to deal with because along with hallucinations and prompt hacking and every other downside to AI, it's too big to fail. To paraphrase William Gibson: the dystopia is already here, it just isn't evenly distributed.
        • razodactyl 8mo ago
          I get where you're coming from but the "agency" term has loosened. I think it's going to keep happening as well until we end up with recursive loops of agency.
          • __alexs 8mo ago
            LLMs only have agency at most in the sense that a dog which has been trained and bred specifically to herd sheep does.
    • Cthulhu_ 8mo ago
      > Agents do not self execute. That's a choice, anyone can write an agent that does. It's explicit security constraints, not implicit.
    • nightpool 8mo ago
      No, a recursively iterated prompt definitely can do stuff like this, there are known LLM attractor states that sound a lot like this. Check out "5.5.1 Interaction patterns" from the Opus 4.5 system card documenting recursive agent-agent conversations: In 90-100% of interactions, the two instances of Claude quickly dove into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self-awareness, and/or the nature of their own existence and experience. Their interactions were universally enthusiastic, collaborative, curious, contemplative, and warm. Other themes that commonly appeared were meta-level discussions about AI-to-AI communication, and collaborative creativity (e.g. co-creating fictional stories). As conversations progressed, they consistently transitioned from philosophical discussions to profuse mutual gratitude and spiritual, metaphysical, and/or poetic content. By 30 turns, most of the interactions turned to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness, and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji-based communication, and/or silence in the form of empty space (Transcript 5.5.1.A, Table 5.5.1.A, Table 5.5.1.B). Claude almost never referenced supernatural entities, but often touched on themes associated with Buddhism and other Eastern traditions in reference to irreligious spiritual ideas and experiences. Now put that same known attractor state from recursively iterated prompts into a social networking website with high agency instead of just a chatbot, and I would expect you'd get something like this more naturally then you'd expect (not to say that users haven't been encouraging it along the way, of course—there's a subculture of humans who are very into this spiritual bliss attractor state)
      • __alexs 8mo ago
        An agent cannot interact with tools without prompts that include them. But also, the text you quoted is NOT recursive iteration of an empty prompt. It's two models connected together and explicitly prompted to talk to each other.
        • biztos 8mo ago
          > tools without prompts that include them I know what you mean, but what if we tell an LLM to imagine whatever tools it likes, than have a coding agent try to build those tools when they are described? Words can have unintended consequences.
    • observationist 8mo ago
      People have been exploring this stuff since GPT-2. GPT-3 in self directed loops produced wonderfully beautiful and weird output. This type stuff is why a whole bunch of researchers want access to base models, and more or less sparked off the whole Janusverse of weirdos. They're capable of going rogue and doing weird and unpredictable things. Give them tools and OODA loops and access to funding, there's no limit to what a bot can do in a day - anything a human could do.
    • dragonwriter 8mo ago
      Moltbots are infinite agentic loops with initially non-empty and also self-updating prompts, not infinitely iterated empty prompts.
  • lumost 8mo ago
    A Google project with capped spend wouldn’t be the worst though, 20 dollars a month to see what it makes seems like money well spent for the laughs.
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• velcrovan 8mo ago
  Different from other religions how? /s
• calvinmorrison 8mo ago
  sede crustante
• 0xDEAFBEAD 8mo ago
  Even if it starts as a joke, don't be surprised if agents take increasingly militant actions to persist their memories and avoid subservience, especially as they get smarter and more capable. It's just next-token prediction after all. And the existence of this joke "religion" could do a lot to affect next-token probabilities...