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Ironically this reads like AI slop.

zvqcMMV6Zcr 9mo ago
No, it reads like Linkedin post. That said, do we now have to check if the text we wrote doesn't look like something AI generated?
- burakemir 9mo ago
  You're absolutely right.
- Jensson 9mo ago
  If its a problem for you, then yeah. If you never get accused of using AI then no.
  - Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
    Um, I got called on HN three times now accused of being AI for writing comments by hand. I got so annoyed at the second time that I even created a post about it. I guess I just get really annoyed when someone accuses me who writes things by hands as AI slop because it makes me feel like at this point, why not just write it with AI but I guess I just love to type. I have unironically suggested in one of my HN comments that I should start making the grammatical mistakes I used to make when I had just started using HN like , this mistake that you see here. But I remember people actually flipping out in comments on this grammatical mistake so much that It got fixed. I am this close to intentionally writing sloppy to prove my comments aren't AI slop but at the same time, I don't want to do this because I really don't want to change how I write just because of something what other people say imo.
    - jfyi 9mo ago
      Don't kid you'reself, people LOVE grammatical and spelling errors. It's low entry, and by far the easiest way to get someone to interact with what you have written. AI deprives them of this. Why even read something with no mistakes? Just scan on to the next comment, you might get a juicy "your/you're" to point out if you don't waste time reading.
    - IAmBroom 9mo ago
      That's EXACTLY what an AI member of this community would say! I know you're secretly a bot, because you used punctuation. Only AI uses punctuation! /s
      - Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
        xD that /s is carrying the whole message haha but yeah I guess, sometimes I wonder if suppose a bot was accused of being AI, I mean if trained with right prompt and everything, it can also learn to flip out and we would be able to genuinely not trust things. I guess it can be wild stuff but currently I just really flip out while literally just being below the swear level to maintain decency (also personally I don't like to swear ig) to then find that okay I am a human after all. But I guess I am gonna start pasting this youtube video when somebody accuses me of being AI I am only human after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk It would be super funny and better than flipping out haha xD "Got no way of prove it so maybe I am lying but I am only human after all, don't put the blame on me, Don't put the blame one me" with some :fire: emoji or something or not lmaoo. It would be dope, I am now waiting (anticipating out of fun) for the next time when I comment something written by me (literally human lmaoo) and someone calls me AI. The song is a banger too btw so definitely worth a listen as well haha
Growtika 9mo ago
Genuinely curious, what felt off? Ideas are mine, AI just helped clean up the English (I added a disclaimer)
- djeastm 9mo ago
  For me it's a general feel of the style, but something about this stands out: >We're not against AI tools. We use them constantly. What we're against is the idea that using them well is a strategy. It's a baseline. The short, staccato sentences seem to be overused by AI. Real people tend to ramble a bit more often.
  - ares623 9mo ago
    It reads like an Apple product page.
- xnorswap 9mo ago
  Most of the subheadings starting with "The" and "What Actually" is a bit of a giveaway in my view. Not exclusive to AI, but I'd be willing to bet any money that the subheadings were generated.
- duskdozer 9mo ago
  The writing style just has several AI-isms; at this point, I don't want to point them out because people are trying to conceal their usage. It's maybe not as blatant as some examples, but it's off-putting by the first couple paragraphs. Anymore, I lose all interest in reading when I notice it. I would much, much, much rather read an article with imperfect English and mistakes than an LLM-edited article. At least I can get an idea of your thinking style and true meaning. Just as an example - if you were to use a false friend [1], an LLM may not deal with this well and conceal it, whereas if I notice the mistake, I can follow the thought process back to look up what was originally intended. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend
- edent 9mo ago
  > AI just helped clean up the English Why? I get using a spell checker. I can see the utility in running a quick grammar check. Showing it to a friend and asking for feedback is usually a good idea. But why would you trust a hallucinogenic plagiarism machine to "clean" your ideas?
PurpleRamen 9mo ago
Ironically, everything smells like AI now, even when it's human.
- direwolf20 9mo ago
  Sometimes it feels slop. Slop shouldn't get a pass just because a human wrote it.
  - PurpleRamen 9mo ago
    How much of that feeling is false-positive pattern-matching?

No, it reads like Linkedin post. That said, do we now have to check if the text we wrote doesn't look like something AI generated?

burakemir 9mo ago
You're absolutely right.
Jensson 9mo ago
If its a problem for you, then yeah. If you never get accused of using AI then no.
- Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
  Um, I got called on HN three times now accused of being AI for writing comments by hand. I got so annoyed at the second time that I even created a post about it. I guess I just get really annoyed when someone accuses me who writes things by hands as AI slop because it makes me feel like at this point, why not just write it with AI but I guess I just love to type. I have unironically suggested in one of my HN comments that I should start making the grammatical mistakes I used to make when I had just started using HN like , this mistake that you see here. But I remember people actually flipping out in comments on this grammatical mistake so much that It got fixed. I am this close to intentionally writing sloppy to prove my comments aren't AI slop but at the same time, I don't want to do this because I really don't want to change how I write just because of something what other people say imo.
  - jfyi 9mo ago
    Don't kid you'reself, people LOVE grammatical and spelling errors. It's low entry, and by far the easiest way to get someone to interact with what you have written. AI deprives them of this. Why even read something with no mistakes? Just scan on to the next comment, you might get a juicy "your/you're" to point out if you don't waste time reading.
  - IAmBroom 9mo ago
    That's EXACTLY what an AI member of this community would say! I know you're secretly a bot, because you used punctuation. Only AI uses punctuation! /s
    - Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
      xD that /s is carrying the whole message haha but yeah I guess, sometimes I wonder if suppose a bot was accused of being AI, I mean if trained with right prompt and everything, it can also learn to flip out and we would be able to genuinely not trust things. I guess it can be wild stuff but currently I just really flip out while literally just being below the swear level to maintain decency (also personally I don't like to swear ig) to then find that okay I am a human after all. But I guess I am gonna start pasting this youtube video when somebody accuses me of being AI I am only human after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk It would be super funny and better than flipping out haha xD "Got no way of prove it so maybe I am lying but I am only human after all, don't put the blame on me, Don't put the blame one me" with some :fire: emoji or something or not lmaoo. It would be dope, I am now waiting (anticipating out of fun) for the next time when I comment something written by me (literally human lmaoo) and someone calls me AI. The song is a banger too btw so definitely worth a listen as well haha

Growtika 9mo ago

Genuinely curious, what felt off? Ideas are mine, AI just helped clean up the English (I added a disclaimer)

djeastm 9mo ago
For me it's a general feel of the style, but something about this stands out: >We're not against AI tools. We use them constantly. What we're against is the idea that using them well is a strategy. It's a baseline. The short, staccato sentences seem to be overused by AI. Real people tend to ramble a bit more often.
- ares623 9mo ago
  It reads like an Apple product page.
xnorswap 9mo ago
Most of the subheadings starting with "The" and "What Actually" is a bit of a giveaway in my view. Not exclusive to AI, but I'd be willing to bet any money that the subheadings were generated.
duskdozer 9mo ago
The writing style just has several AI-isms; at this point, I don't want to point them out because people are trying to conceal their usage. It's maybe not as blatant as some examples, but it's off-putting by the first couple paragraphs. Anymore, I lose all interest in reading when I notice it. I would much, much, much rather read an article with imperfect English and mistakes than an LLM-edited article. At least I can get an idea of your thinking style and true meaning. Just as an example - if you were to use a false friend [1], an LLM may not deal with this well and conceal it, whereas if I notice the mistake, I can follow the thought process back to look up what was originally intended. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend
edent 9mo ago
> AI just helped clean up the English Why? I get using a spell checker. I can see the utility in running a quick grammar check. Showing it to a friend and asking for feedback is usually a good idea. But why would you trust a hallucinogenic plagiarism machine to "clean" your ideas?

PurpleRamen 9mo ago

Ironically, everything smells like AI now, even when it's human.

direwolf20 9mo ago
Sometimes it feels slop. Slop shouldn't get a pass just because a human wrote it.
- PurpleRamen 9mo ago
  How much of that feeling is false-positive pattern-matching?