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As a European, I would like to know in _which_ European country you're based. I think I know all of them, people from abroad might not. Saying "Made in Europe"
by rambambram 9mo ago
As a European, I would like to know in _which_ European country you're based. I think I know all of them, people from abroad might not. Saying "Made in Europe" is too general for my European liking. ;)
- arter45 9mo agohttps://www.birdy.chat/terms https://www.birdy.chat/terms says Latvia
- kykat 9mo agoThe company of the website appears to be based in Riga, Latvia https://company.lursoft.lv/en/fyello-productivity/40203455420 https://company.lursoft.lv/en/fyello-productivity/4020345542...
- altern8 9mo agoI thought the same thing. I also don't think there's such a thing as "made in Europe", as if it was "made in USA". Is it made in Germany, Italy, Albania..?
- ncruces 9mo agoPlenty of supermarket products say made in Europe, particularly (but not only) white label products.
- dfxm12 9mo agoThe words aren't important. The regulated meaning is. Does it have a legal meaning? If so, what is it? Who enforces it? Consider made in Italy vs made in Germany are different in meaningful aspects.
- TeMPOraL 9mo agoIs there even a regulated meaning to "made in X"? The way I see it, "made in Europe" may be dubious, but "made in EU" should be just as okay to write as "made in USA". And if it's not a thing, well, nothing is a thing until people make it a thing. EDIT: also we're talking about a software product here, where most things written on the product is legally meaningless - otherwise we'd have special customs regimes for those major software exporter places like "love" and "♡".
- dfxm12 9mo agoAs my comment implied, there is in some places, but the regulations aren't uniform. Also, the person I responded to mentioned supermarket products. I was asking legitimate questions & was hoping to get an informed response.
- altern8 9mo agoI know that there is a regulated meaning—at least for food—even down to the region (Scotch, Chianti, Champagne, etc.) or even city (Modena, for balsamic vinegar), but laws aren't the same in every country. "Made in EU" would be equivalent to "Made in USA", and I'm pretty sure it's regulated. This is just an app though, so they can say whatever they want. I've seen "Made with love", "Made on Earth", etc.
- altern8 9mo agoMaybe "made in the EU"..? That is not the same thing as "made in Europe".
- pbhjpbhj 9mo agoSurely it's very similar, companies can't - AFAIK - be registered in USA, they're registered in a state. USA's States have different tax and legislative climates, just like EU states do.
- altern8 9mo agoSure, but the U.S. are a single country, while Europe is many different countries that are completely different. I'm in Poland and can drive 2 hours and stop understanding what people are saying to me (in German and Czech). That was my point.
- bojan 9mo ago> while Europe is many different countries that are completely different. I've always found this a weird take. European (EU) countries are more similar to each other than any country outside of Europe is to any European country. In your example, if you drive two hours to Germany or Czechia, your car will still be insured, all your bank cards will still work, the price of your mobile phone service stays the same, you'll have a good idea how health and employment systems work, and the chances are you'll be able to talk to people in English. It remains true that the barriers the businesses face are higher, but that's not what your example was about.
- SahAssar 9mo ago> I've always found this a weird take. European (EU) countries are more similar to each other than any country outside of Europe is to any European country. You think finland and malta are more similar to each other than sweden and norway?
- palata 9mo agoIt's not. Part of Russia is in Europe. The geographical limit between Europe and Asia is not well defined. I think it would be similar to saying "First American chat app that...", which would be ambiguous?
- retired 9mo agoCould even be Turkey west of the Bosphorus. They can fabricate the product in Bursa and do final assembly in West-Istanbul.
- chatmasta 9mo agoI'd also like to know what "based in the EEA" means: > For interoperability to work, both you and your WhatsApp contacts need to be based in the EEA. Does my contact phone number need to have an EEA country code? Does my current IP address need to be geolocated in the EEA? Do I need to download the two apps from a regional App Store in the EEA? Do I need to show an EEA payment method to both apps? What happens to my chats if I move or switch app stores?
- ExoticPearTree 9mo agoEEA = European Economic Area. It includes a few other countries such as Switzerland, Norway and about two more which I forgot.
- timeon 9mo agoReminds me eurosky.social they have on page: "For Europe, this is our chance to build competitive alternatives to Big Tech. But we need European-hosted infrastructure to make that possibility a reality." Page is hosted in USA.
- direwolf20 9mo agoI won't understand why people do that when Hetzner is so effective.
- usr1106 9mo agoI agree, made in Europe, does not give enogh information. Their T&C gives the details: They are from Latvia. I dare to claim: A majority of EU citizens know really nothing about Latvia.
- redleader55 9mo agoAs an European, you shouldn't discriminate based on country of origin within Europe.
- rambambram 9mo agoYou're using the word "discriminate" in bad faith, don't do that. Not every made distinction is discrimination.