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I really wish more people wanted screens that looked as good as their cellphone. Bright, sharp text, great color. We've had the great Apple Studio Display for
by Xeoncross 9mo ago
I really wish more people wanted screens that looked as good as their cellphone.
Bright, sharp text, great color. We've had the great Apple Studio Display for years now, it's about time others came to fix some of it's short-comings like 27" size, 60hz and lack of HDMI ports for use with other systems.
So many of us have to stare at a screen for hours every day and having one that reduces strain on my eyes is well worth $1-3k if they'd just make them.
- throwaway85825 9mo agoA fast color e ink would be possible but development would be very expensive for an unknown market. Would be a perfect anti eye strain second monitor though.
- elcritch 9mo agoDasung looks to be getting there!
- CGMthrowaway 9mo agoIs there a shortlist of top of the line utilitarian monitors that you can just buy, without researching or being some niche gamer?* Something similar to LG G-series TV's. Seems like Apple Studio, Dell UltraSharp are on that list. Any others? *Struggling for words, but I'm looking more for the expedient solution rather than the "craft beer" or "audiophile" solution.
- throwaway85825 9mo agoMany monitors use the same panels with only firmware differences. The panel technology IPS/VA/OLED/WOLED is what you shop for. If you're a gamer QDOLED is best. If you do office work just get whatever is high resolution and makes text sharp.
- skirmish 9mo agoKeep in mind that normal OLEDs are quite bad for typical development tasks: lots of text with high contrast. Here is an example that would be unbearable for me: [1]. For text, IPS rules so far. For video and games, definitely OLED. [1] https://www.savanozin.com/projects/qod https://www.savanozin.com/projects/qod
- jsheard 9mo agoTrue for current OLED panels, but new OLEDs with LCD-like subpixel arrangements were just announced at CES. Those shouldn't have that problem. https://news.lgdisplay.com/en/2025/12/lg-display-unveils-worlds-first-240hz-rgb-stripe-oled-panel/?ckattempt=1 https://news.lgdisplay.com/en/2025/12/lg-display-unveils-wor...
- Rastonbury 9mo agoIf you truly don't want to research use rtings best monitor for X articles and find your budget and buy that one, if you feel the need to compare further pop the model numbers into your favourite LLM
- BoredomIsFun 9mo ago32uq850 would be my choice if I were in Europe.
- eikenberry 9mo agoWe do, but many of us also want to play a game on occasion and GPUs can barely just handle 4k these days, let alone 6k+.
- accrual 9mo agoAnecdata but I played games at 4K on a 4GHz Haswell (2013) + 1080 Ti (2017). Definitely faster at 2K but 4K was servicable. It's probably less true now that I'm 1+ years away from the hardware, but 4K gameplay is surprisingly accessible for modest hardware IMO.
- eikenberry 9mo agoI currently have a 4k monitor (+nv4070-super) and it does handle some games fine at 4k but for others I need to use 2k w/ upscaling. Depends on the game.
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- flowardnut 9mo agosome of these newer monitors support a lower native resolution as well, usually with a faster refresh rate. it's a nice feature
- jofzar 9mo agoSo good news, there is a fair amount of monitors coming soon which are super high resolution that offer a "dual mode" which is lower resolution that has higher refresh rate. They are pretty cool.
- indemnity 9mo agoI game at 6K… I don’t play shooters so it’s fine. I turn off VSync, get 100FPS+ in my game of choice (WoW, admittedly and oldish engine). 4090 GPU.
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- brcmthrowaway 9mo ago1-3k is 52 weeks of groceries for some people.
- Xeoncross 9mo agoIt seems rather silly to assume all people universally have the same needs, desires, and expenses. We don't live in the world of The Giver. I can accept that firefighters need a truck much more advanced and expensive than I ever will. It would be odd to compare that expense to how many pizza's I order each year.
- MBCook 9mo agoThe company I work at gives all new developers a pair of 1080p displays that could have come right out of 2010. It amazes me, and it’s so sad. They have no idea what they’re missing. I’m sure high PPI would pay off fast in eye strain. And it’s not like monitors need replacement yearly. Tons of time to recoup that small cost. I’m not arguing for $2k 37” monitors, just better than $200 ones.
- wolvoleo 9mo agoEven $200 will already buy a 4K 27" (LG). Which aren't even bad. I swear by HiDPI as well but my work is the same. 1080p displays and really bad contrast screens too. Definitely not TN (they're not that bad) and not VA (they tend to have way better contrast than IPS). Probably just bottom barrel IPS.
- lazylizard 9mo agothe old monitors still work. its a waste to throw them away. something like that?
- MBCook 9mo agoI’ve never heard a specific reason, but I fully suspect “it’s fine, why do you need that?” to be the answer. May be people who have never used HiDPI. Maybe they’ve seen it and don’t get the hype. Maybe they’re just penny pinching. IDK.
- r_lee 9mo agopenny pinching on some monitors for the devs that cost a fortune... :(
- hulitu 9mo ago> I’m sure high PPI would pay off fast in eye strain. But we have gray on gray, to compensate. One even has a choice. Do you want light or dark eye strain ?
- indemnity 9mo agoSo you work at the same company I do? They just “upgraded” us to curved Dell UltraWides with a PPI of 110. Unsurprisingly this is not a motivating factor to come back to the office, given I have a 220 PPI 6K at home.
- nospice 9mo agoI don't think people care all that much about phones. It's just that phones are power-constrained, so manufacturers wanted to move to OLEDs to save on backlight; and because the displays are small, the tech was easier to roll out there than on 6k 32-inch monitors. But premium displays exist. IPS displays on higher-end laptops, such as ThinkPads, are great - we're talking stuff like 14" 3840x2160, 100% Adobe RGB. The main problem is just that people want to buy truly gigantic panels on the cheap, and there are trade-offs that come with that. But do you really need 2x32" to code?
- formerly_proven 9mo agoOutside Thinkpads IPS is basically the cheap/default option on laptops, with OLED being the premium choice. With Thinkpads TN without sRGB coverage is the cheap/default option, with IPS being the premium choice.
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- pimeys 9mo agoI'm just getting my new ThinkPad tomorrow with an OLED screen. The X1 Carbon. I haven't seen TN film in ThinkPads for years. But yes, you are right, they are conservative on new tech in the ThinkPad lineage.
- sharkjacobs 9mo agoThe other thing about phones is that you have your old phone with you when you buy a new one, so without even really meaning to you're probably doing a side by side direct comparison and improvements to display technology are a much bigger sales motivator.
- junofan 9mo agoThis is the insight that sold a billion iPhones. They were obsessed with what happens when you’re at the store, and you don’t need a new phone, and you pick one up, and…
- tracker1 9mo agoI have trouble making out details on my 45" UWQHD (3440x1440) displays... so I don't see much point.. maybe slightly easier to read typefaces... I am already zooming 25% in most of the time. On the plus side, I can comfortably fit my editor on half the screen and my browser on the other half.
- acchow 9mo agoMost people run in some hiDPI mode so text doesn’t become tiny But 1440p on a 45” is not good PPI. That could be why you’re struggling to see text clearly
- Kristopher1337 9mo agoThis interaction fully flushes out the problem. The math is not being done between size and resolution to determine PPI.
- weiliddat 9mo agoYeah PPD is more useful, although for ultrawide I’ve also heard it’s common to have it closer than regular viewing distance, so that you can glance at side screens / information
- tracker1 9mo agoOr... it could be my general vision loss issues in that I can't hardly see... I can't make out a native pixel as it is. I understand that if it had 2x the PPI that it might handle rendering better and that may help, some with visibility... I had a first generation MBP with retina display, and it was amazing. But that's not my issue here. Not to mention the trouble having my work laptop push effectively 4x the pixels if such a mythical beast existed. The size is so that I can actually work with a single screen, editor on one side, browser on the other... it's almost like 2x 3:2 displays in one. For a workflow it's pretty good... I don't game much, but it's nice for that and content viewing as well. I had considered using side by side displays, like 2x 27" in portrait mode... but settled on this, which is working surprisingly well for now.
- TacticalCoder 9mo ago> So many of us have to stare at a screen for hours every day and having one that reduces strain on my eyes is well worth $1-3k if they'd just make them. I'm 53 y/o and didn't have glasses until 52. And at 53 I only use them sporadically. For example atm I'm typing this without my glasses. I can still work at my computer without glasses. And yet I spent 10 hours a day in front of computer screens since I was a kid nearly every day of my life (don't worry, I did my share of MX bike, skateboarding, bicycling, tennis, etc.). You know the biggest eye-relief for me? Not using anti-aliased font. No matter the DPI. Crisp, sharp, pixel-perfect font only for me. Zero AA. So a 110 / 120 ppi screen is perfect for me. Not if you do use anti-aliased font (and most people do), I understand the appeal of smaller pixels, for more subtle AA. But yup: pixel perfect programming font, no anti-aliasing. 38" ultra-wide, curved, monitor. Same monitor since 2017 and it's my dream. My wife OTOH prefers a three monitors setup. So: people have different preferences and that is fine. To each his own bad tastes.
- stefanfisk 9mo agoWhich font do you prefer for code?
- John23832 9mo agoI would love the apple studio display if the framerate wasn't actually crap. Even doing programming, 60hz is not enough man. Plus more peripheral ports.
- nozzlegear 9mo agoI have a Studio Display and would also love if it had a much higher refresh rate, but only because I play WoW on it. Why isn't 60hz enough for programming? I don't think I notice the refresh rate at all when not playing a video game or watching videos.
- John23832 9mo agoWhen I move my mouse, or if I'm moving between full screens (terminal to IDE to browser), I see the stutter and slowness. I code on a LG UltraGear OLED 4K HDR 240 Hz Gaming Monitor. Could be my sensitivity though.
- xnx 9mo ago> I see the stutter and slowness Sounds like it is not maintaining 60 fps. Higher display refresh rate wouldn't fix that.
- nozzlegear 9mo agoI'm personally not very sensitive to refresh rates, I only really notice it in video games and it wasn't enough to keep me from replacing my 120hz primary monitor with the Studio Display. I was just curious about why you prefer higher refresh rate for programming, thanks for answering!
- skocznymroczny 9mo agoIsn't the main difference glossy vs matte? With glossy you get usually bright great color and that's what you get on cellphones and Macbooks as well. For some reason matte is still the preference when it comes to monitors and you can't escape their muted color palette.
- xnx 9mo ago> matte is still the preference when it comes to monitors The larger screen size of a monitor is more likely to reflect lights than a mobile phone screen.
- hollerith 9mo agoAlso when glare does appear, it is harder to adjust the viewing angle because the user is not already holding the device.
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoI have 27" 5K monitors at home since I WFH. One reason I don't really want to RTO is because these monitors aren't standard yet even if they have been out for more than a decade now (and my FAANG employer won't spring for the good stuff). That and my mechanical keyboard would never work in an open office :P.