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If the EU is good at one thing, its definitely putting out statements.

by 827a 9mo ago

tariky 9mo ago
And slow Bureaucracy :)
mlinhares 9mo ago
The real message would be to pull out of the world cup.
- cuu508 9mo ago
  World cup of what sport? If the message is to Trump, I assume golf?
  - beAbU 9mo ago
    The sport who's leader shoved his head so far up Trump's ass he was able to taste his orange make-up. All for the sake of giving him a farce of a "peace" prize. (I'm talking about FIFA in case you are not aware)
- koolba 9mo ago
  Even if that happened I don’t think the USA would have a shot at the trophy.
  - mlinhares 9mo ago
    I don't think anyone would care about these games if the European and Latin American teams decided not to come.
  - dandanua 9mo ago
    > I don’t think the USA would have a shot at the trophy With Trump in power they can grab it
torlok 9mo ago
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- reop2whiskey 9mo ago
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- bflesch 9mo ago
  Don't worry, you're either arguing with useful idiots or pathetic SOBs working in a propaganda unit in russia.
  - yetihehe 9mo ago
    The problem is that if no one responds to such idiots, even more idiots might be swayed into their direction.
    - LexiMax 9mo ago
      They are either being paid, or they are so lost in propaganda that they're willing to do it >for free. They have more time that they are willing to waste on propaganda than you, unless you decide to dedicate every waking moment to a rebuttable you are behind the eight ball. Even then, they're probably in dozens of communities and threads at the same time, repeating the same garbage. The only way this sort of rhetoric can be fought is at the level of moderation. This site has user-driven moderation, which in theory means that you can fight the tide this way, but in practice the authoritarians and fascists have access to these tools as well, and bad faith use is rarely punished, so these tools are less of a panacea and more of a race to who can down-vote who first. The only other alternative is for the paid moderation of this site to put their foot down and say "We are not okay with fascists and authoritarian apologists on our site" and ban them. The admins of Hacker News are another on a very long list of social media site hosts who have decided to wash their hands of the responsibility. They don't care. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you decide you still want to engage, I recommend viewing the interaction through the lens of an attention economy; spend less time on a rebuttle than they did on their post, and only in places where you think it will actually be seen.
isoprophlex 9mo ago
It would be extremely funny if they were to end one of these statements with "thank you for your attention to this matter"
- rhyperior 9mo ago
  Except that’s just normalizing his behaviors.
  - metabagel 9mo ago
    It’s not. It’s mocking.
    - koonsolo 9mo ago
      I like my politicians to be professional.
  - isoprophlex 9mo ago
    "tHAnK yOu fOR yOuR ATteNTiOn to tHIs mATtER" then
a_paddy 9mo ago
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- Kelteseth 9mo ago
  Still the funniest thing when Americans hate our democratic freedom to decide how companies that sell products here have to behave. Go EU!
wtcactus 9mo ago
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- surgical_fire 9mo ago
  Show on a bottle where the bottle caps have hurt you.
- teiferer 9mo ago
  Had Merkel not opened the border in 2015, Germany would be far worse off. If you ever set foot into a German retirement home, hospital, restaurant, random shop at the central station, cinema, xmas market, you name it, you realize that all those immigrants are currently carrying the economy. She should get a prize for this instead of being blamed. Even if you don't care about the moral aspect of helping refugees.
  - wtcactus 9mo ago
    In Germany, 23% of the people in working age, don't work [1]. The "refugees are carrying the economy", because you are effectively paying 23% of the local working age population (I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right?) to slack. Remove their benefits and see how quickly you don't need to import people to do those jobs. And no, I don't care about the "moral aspect" of not "helping refugees". If you care, you welcome them into your own place. Also, notice how you didn't go into the gas deals Merkel did with Russia and forced upon the rest of the EU. [1]: https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/employment-rate https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/employment-rate EDIT: 23%
    - getnewmaterial 9mo ago
      >I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right? incorrect
    - rognjen 9mo ago
      From the same site, the same stat for the US is 41% LOL https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate Edit: also you can't do math well -- it's 100 - 77 = 23 (not 33)
tokai 9mo ago
What are you talking about. Trumps US-EU trade deal has been halted, and a response to Trumps 1th. feb tariffs is being drawn up right now. EU not doing anything in your head, try following the news.
_DeadFred_ 9mo ago
You argued it's good for the US to shrink out export markets so goods will be cheaper at home, and that Trump is doing 4d chess. I guess at least now you are being honest and just doing straight snark like a true Trump sycophant.

If the EU is good at one thing, its definitely putting out statements.

by 827a 9mo ago

If the EU is good at one thing, its definitely putting out statements.

tariky 9mo ago

And slow Bureaucracy :)

mlinhares 9mo ago

The real message would be to pull out of the world cup.

cuu508 9mo ago
World cup of what sport? If the message is to Trump, I assume golf?
- beAbU 9mo ago
  The sport who's leader shoved his head so far up Trump's ass he was able to taste his orange make-up. All for the sake of giving him a farce of a "peace" prize. (I'm talking about FIFA in case you are not aware)
koolba 9mo ago
Even if that happened I don’t think the USA would have a shot at the trophy.
- mlinhares 9mo ago
  I don't think anyone would care about these games if the European and Latin American teams decided not to come.
- dandanua 9mo ago
  > I don’t think the USA would have a shot at the trophy With Trump in power they can grab it

torlok 9mo ago

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reop2whiskey 9mo ago
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bflesch 9mo ago
Don't worry, you're either arguing with useful idiots or pathetic SOBs working in a propaganda unit in russia.
- yetihehe 9mo ago
  The problem is that if no one responds to such idiots, even more idiots might be swayed into their direction.
  - LexiMax 9mo ago
    They are either being paid, or they are so lost in propaganda that they're willing to do it >for free. They have more time that they are willing to waste on propaganda than you, unless you decide to dedicate every waking moment to a rebuttable you are behind the eight ball. Even then, they're probably in dozens of communities and threads at the same time, repeating the same garbage. The only way this sort of rhetoric can be fought is at the level of moderation. This site has user-driven moderation, which in theory means that you can fight the tide this way, but in practice the authoritarians and fascists have access to these tools as well, and bad faith use is rarely punished, so these tools are less of a panacea and more of a race to who can down-vote who first. The only other alternative is for the paid moderation of this site to put their foot down and say "We are not okay with fascists and authoritarian apologists on our site" and ban them. The admins of Hacker News are another on a very long list of social media site hosts who have decided to wash their hands of the responsibility. They don't care. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you decide you still want to engage, I recommend viewing the interaction through the lens of an attention economy; spend less time on a rebuttle than they did on their post, and only in places where you think it will actually be seen.

isoprophlex 9mo ago

It would be extremely funny if they were to end one of these statements with "thank you for your attention to this matter"

rhyperior 9mo ago
Except that’s just normalizing his behaviors.
- metabagel 9mo ago
  It’s not. It’s mocking.
  - koonsolo 9mo ago
    I like my politicians to be professional.
- isoprophlex 9mo ago
  "tHAnK yOu fOR yOuR ATteNTiOn to tHIs mATtER" then

a_paddy 9mo ago

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Kelteseth 9mo ago
Still the funniest thing when Americans hate our democratic freedom to decide how companies that sell products here have to behave. Go EU!

wtcactus 9mo ago

[flagged]

surgical_fire 9mo ago
Show on a bottle where the bottle caps have hurt you.
teiferer 9mo ago
Had Merkel not opened the border in 2015, Germany would be far worse off. If you ever set foot into a German retirement home, hospital, restaurant, random shop at the central station, cinema, xmas market, you name it, you realize that all those immigrants are currently carrying the economy. She should get a prize for this instead of being blamed. Even if you don't care about the moral aspect of helping refugees.
- wtcactus 9mo ago
  In Germany, 23% of the people in working age, don't work [1]. The "refugees are carrying the economy", because you are effectively paying 23% of the local working age population (I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right?) to slack. Remove their benefits and see how quickly you don't need to import people to do those jobs. And no, I don't care about the "moral aspect" of not "helping refugees". If you care, you welcome them into your own place. Also, notice how you didn't go into the gas deals Merkel did with Russia and forced upon the rest of the EU. [1]: https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/employment-rate https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/employment-rate EDIT: 23%
  - getnewmaterial 9mo ago
    >I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right? incorrect
  - rognjen 9mo ago
    From the same site, the same stat for the US is 41% LOL https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate Edit: also you can't do math well -- it's 100 - 77 = 23 (not 33)

tokai 9mo ago

What are you talking about. Trumps US-EU trade deal has been halted, and a response to Trumps 1th. feb tariffs is being drawn up right now. EU not doing anything in your head, try following the news.

_DeadFred_ 9mo ago

You argued it's good for the US to shrink out export markets so goods will be cheaper at home, and that Trump is doing 4d chess. I guess at least now you are being honest and just doing straight snark like a true Trump sycophant.