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It seems to me that MS has started to vibe code Windows. It's so surreal that they managed to kill the shutdown program. I mean: this 1 simple program worked fo

It seems to me that MS has started to vibe code Windows. It's so surreal that they managed to kill the shutdown program. I mean: this 1 simple program worked for 30 years no probs doctors hated this trick but idk

steve1977 9mo ago
From what I understand, the shutdown command is actually what is still working.
hulitu 9mo ago
> MS has started to vibe code Windows Started ? The chances of Shutdown (from the menu) working in Windows are about 90%.
- foobarian 9mo ago
  And then there is the computer who won't stay asleep. I find my PC running about once a week after having it sleep the night before.
  - Frotag 9mo ago
    I've had the opposite problem with laptops. There's like 3 different menus to configure sleep-on-idle but none of them actually let you disable it even if they claim they do. They don't even share the same state and can be set to conflicting values, with the oldest looking one usually taking priority. Disabling screen timeout is even worse since there's additionally the screensaver settings to muddy the waters.
marcosdumay 9mo ago
Just to point, but there's nothing simple about shutdown.
- t_mahmood 9mo ago
  D'oh sudo shutdown Linux: I give a damn about you're super critical nuclear reactor loading up, this computer is going down NOW
  - throwaway173738 9mo ago
    It would actually be sudo shutdown -h now. Otherwise it waits a few minutes for the control rods to drop before it shuts off the coolant control.
    - watermelon0 9mo ago
      That's quite interesting, considering that -h flag is usually related to showing help.
    - Izkata 9mo ago
      That still does stuff like unmounting filesystems (which can take a minute with snap, if they haven't fixed it), you can go further with the (rather unsafe) SysRq key "o", which tells the kernel to shut down without any preparation.
  - Gazoche 9mo ago
    Systemd: “A stop job is running for User Manager for UID 1000 (1s / 2min)”
    - 1718627440 9mo ago
      Ctrl-Alt SysRQ, Pause, o (off) for that.
    - Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 9mo ago
      Well it is still shutting down
- itopaloglu83 9mo ago
  And hence under no circumstances one should ship a code that just doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do in the first place, we know the cloud doesn’t use it much, but c’mon it’s a critical part of the system.

steve1977 9mo ago

From what I understand, the shutdown command is actually what is still working.

hulitu 9mo ago

> MS has started to vibe code Windows Started ? The chances of Shutdown (from the menu) working in Windows are about 90%.

foobarian 9mo ago
And then there is the computer who won't stay asleep. I find my PC running about once a week after having it sleep the night before.
- Frotag 9mo ago
  I've had the opposite problem with laptops. There's like 3 different menus to configure sleep-on-idle but none of them actually let you disable it even if they claim they do. They don't even share the same state and can be set to conflicting values, with the oldest looking one usually taking priority. Disabling screen timeout is even worse since there's additionally the screensaver settings to muddy the waters.

marcosdumay 9mo ago

Just to point, but there's nothing simple about shutdown.

t_mahmood 9mo ago
D'oh sudo shutdown Linux: I give a damn about you're super critical nuclear reactor loading up, this computer is going down NOW
- throwaway173738 9mo ago
  It would actually be sudo shutdown -h now. Otherwise it waits a few minutes for the control rods to drop before it shuts off the coolant control.
  - watermelon0 9mo ago
    That's quite interesting, considering that -h flag is usually related to showing help.
  - Izkata 9mo ago
    That still does stuff like unmounting filesystems (which can take a minute with snap, if they haven't fixed it), you can go further with the (rather unsafe) SysRq key "o", which tells the kernel to shut down without any preparation.
- Gazoche 9mo ago
  Systemd: “A stop job is running for User Manager for UID 1000 (1s / 2min)”
  - 1718627440 9mo ago
    Ctrl-Alt SysRQ, Pause, o (off) for that.
  - Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 9mo ago
    Well it is still shutting down
itopaloglu83 9mo ago
And hence under no circumstances one should ship a code that just doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do in the first place, we know the cloud doesn’t use it much, but c’mon it’s a critical part of the system.