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The US has done well historically, roughly on par with China on per capita renewable rollout, slightly ahead of China between 2019-2023 but probably falling beh

The US has done well historically, roughly on par with China on per capita renewable rollout, slightly ahead of China between 2019-2023 but probably falling behind now. China being so big and populous makes it hard to make simple comparisons. edit: looked it up, US is still ahead of China as of 2024: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/renewable-electricity-per-capita?tab=line https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/renewable-electricity-per... Bear in mind that pre 2000 is likely hydro, in the early years of solar and wind that confused matters if lumped in together but I think it's now obvious when the new tech kicks in.

raincole 10mo ago
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- ben_w 10mo ago
  > no one talks about it People regularly talk about how much new coal capacity China has been building. Quite often this is followed by "capacity, sure; they're not using all that capacity, those plants exist and are mostly not running", or some variation thereof. I've never bothered fact-checking the responses, but this conversation happens is most of the Chinese renewables discussions I've seen in the last few years.
  - hnmullany 10mo ago
    Coal generation production in China did decline in 2025 vs 2024 - but that was the first year for it to happen.
    - balops 10mo ago
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      - triceratops 10mo ago
        Got any sources for this?
        hnmullany 10mo ago
        Nuclear capacity additions in 2025 were about 1% of solar additions - there is no comparison. Nuclear capacity: +2GW in 2025 (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/china-nuclear-power https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...) Solar capacity: ¬300GW capacity https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202512/26/content_WS694e2779c6d00ca5f9a0846f.html https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202512/26/cont...
        balops 10mo ago
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        AnotherGoodName 10mo ago
        I don't understand this? A couple of people responded with clear charts showing nuclear way behind on solar/renewables with solar/renewables growing faster too. It looks like you've been misled but are having trouble admitting that to yourself?
        triceratops 10mo ago
        He's a troll. Don't respond.
        balops 10mo ago
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        dekhn 10mo ago
        Please show your numbers; if you just make a claim and then insult people who disagree, you automatically lost internet arguments.
      - pfdietz 10mo ago
        That's utterly wrong. Renewable installs in China are vastly outpacing nuclear installs.
      - dalyons 10mo ago
        You are wrong by a factor of at least 10x
      - x0b4dc0d3 10mo ago
        Source?

raincole 10mo ago

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ben_w 10mo ago
> no one talks about it People regularly talk about how much new coal capacity China has been building. Quite often this is followed by "capacity, sure; they're not using all that capacity, those plants exist and are mostly not running", or some variation thereof. I've never bothered fact-checking the responses, but this conversation happens is most of the Chinese renewables discussions I've seen in the last few years.
- hnmullany 10mo ago
  Coal generation production in China did decline in 2025 vs 2024 - but that was the first year for it to happen.
  - balops 10mo ago
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    - triceratops 10mo ago
      Got any sources for this?
      - hnmullany 10mo ago
        Nuclear capacity additions in 2025 were about 1% of solar additions - there is no comparison. Nuclear capacity: +2GW in 2025 (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/china-nuclear-power https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...) Solar capacity: ¬300GW capacity https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202512/26/content_WS694e2779c6d00ca5f9a0846f.html https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202512/26/cont...
        balops 10mo ago
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        AnotherGoodName 10mo ago
        I don't understand this? A couple of people responded with clear charts showing nuclear way behind on solar/renewables with solar/renewables growing faster too. It looks like you've been misled but are having trouble admitting that to yourself?
        triceratops 10mo ago
        He's a troll. Don't respond.
        balops 10mo ago
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        dekhn 10mo ago
        Please show your numbers; if you just make a claim and then insult people who disagree, you automatically lost internet arguments.
    - pfdietz 10mo ago
      That's utterly wrong. Renewable installs in China are vastly outpacing nuclear installs.
    - dalyons 10mo ago
      You are wrong by a factor of at least 10x
    - x0b4dc0d3 10mo ago
      Source?