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As someone who actively avoided cancel culture hysteria in the 2010s, can we have some context here? What did the guy say that has everyone stumbling over them

As someone who actively avoided cancel culture hysteria in the 2010s, can we have some context here? What did the guy say that has everyone stumbling over themselves to vaguely allude to it?

dennis_jeeves2 9mo ago
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- ImPostingOnHN 9mo ago
  Wow, what a coincidence! Everyone who doesn't agree with me is uninformed and has poor judgement too!
  - solaris2007 9mo ago
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yzydserd 9mo ago
It’s linked to in the first sentence of the OP.
reducesuffering 9mo ago
Adams: "I'm going to back off from being helpful to Black America because it doesn't seem like it pays off. I get called a racist. That's the only outcome. It makes no sense to help Black Americans if you're white. It's over. Don't even think it's worth trying. I'm not saying start a war or do anything bad. Nothing like that. I'm just saying get away. Just get away."
- cykros 9mo ago
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  - sanktanglia 9mo ago
    Casting helping black people as a lost cause is not him deciding not to be an ally. It's him literally spreading racist rhetoric about black people as a whole
    - rchaud 9mo ago
      with more than a whiff of neo-colonialist "why aren't they greeting us as liberators?" thinking.
  - spicymaki 9mo ago
    I am always genuinely curious when someone interprets something that is blatantly racist to me as something not. What about what Scott said was not racist? How do you define racism?
    - choeger 9mo ago
      It starts by believing that there are distinct human races (which there are not). That alone makes most US Americans racist based on language alone. No (sane) German would nowadays speak of "Rasse" to describe someone with a different skin color. Then, of course, racism consists of the believe that some races are intrinsically less valuable (in whatever sense) than others. I didn't see Scott Adams voice that part. But I might have missed it or it might have been implied. But it's important to note that US identity politics of the last couple of decades looks increasingly weird to me as an outsider in any case.
      - shermantanktop 9mo ago
        Using "Rasse" as a direct dictionary translation and then saying that it doesn't have the same cultural connotation in another culture is nonsensical. The term "race" means something in the context of American culture, which is due to our troubled history. And Adams' comments are also in the context of that same culture. But I believe some other countries have their own challenges living up to their nominal multi-ethnic ideals. Surely if I pop open a copy of Der Spiegel and start commenting about the finer points of an immigration policy proposal from an American perspective, I am going to get something wrong.
- stetrain 9mo ago
  You missed a few: "So I realized, as you know I've been identifying as Black for a while, years now, because I like to be on the winning team" "But as of today I'm going to re-identify as White, because I don't want to be a member of a hate group, I'd accidentally joined a hate group." "The best advice I would give to White people is to get away hell away from Black people, just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this, this can't be fixed, you just have to escape. So that's what I did, I went to a neighborhood where I have a very low Black population" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s
  - deleted 9mo ago
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- CodeWriter23 9mo ago
  /whoosh
stetrain 9mo ago
"So I realized, as you know I've been identifying as Black for a while, years now, because I like to be on the winning team" "But as of today I'm going to re-identify as White, because I don't want to be a member of a hate group, I'd accidentally joined a hate group." "The best advice I would give to White people is to get away hell away from Black people, just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this, this can't be fixed, you just have to escape. So that's what I did, I went to a neighborhood where I have a very low Black population" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s
- throw310822 9mo ago
  The first is a (totally legitimate) dig at DEI policies, has nothing to do with racism; the other two need to be put in context, as he was reacting to a poll according to which a sizeable proportion of black people disagreed with the statement "it's ok to be white". Now, someone who disagrees with the statement "it's ok to belong to <ethnic group>" is usually called a racist. That's if we stick to the default meaning of words, without second and third guessing what people really mean to say when they deny it's ok to belong to an ethnic group. I think it's legitimate to be upset in this context and at the normalisation of such a thought, even to the point of reacting offensively.
  - stetrain 9mo ago
    He combined those who disagree with those who were unsure to get up to 47%, and then declared that that meant that Black people were a hate group. I provided the link to the full episode for anyone who would like more context.
    - throw310822 9mo ago
      I'm curious how you would rate the statement: "I'm unsure it's ok to be Black".
      - stetrain 9mo ago

As someone who actively avoided cancel culture hysteria in the 2010s, can we have some context here? What did the guy say that has everyone stumbling over themselves to vaguely allude to it?

dennis_jeeves2 9mo ago

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ImPostingOnHN 9mo ago
Wow, what a coincidence! Everyone who doesn't agree with me is uninformed and has poor judgement too!
- solaris2007 9mo ago
  [dead]

yzydserd 9mo ago

It’s linked to in the first sentence of the OP.

reducesuffering 9mo ago

Adams: "I'm going to back off from being helpful to Black America because it doesn't seem like it pays off. I get called a racist. That's the only outcome. It makes no sense to help Black Americans if you're white. It's over. Don't even think it's worth trying. I'm not saying start a war or do anything bad. Nothing like that. I'm just saying get away. Just get away."

cykros 9mo ago
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- sanktanglia 9mo ago
  Casting helping black people as a lost cause is not him deciding not to be an ally. It's him literally spreading racist rhetoric about black people as a whole
  - rchaud 9mo ago
    with more than a whiff of neo-colonialist "why aren't they greeting us as liberators?" thinking.
- spicymaki 9mo ago
  I am always genuinely curious when someone interprets something that is blatantly racist to me as something not. What about what Scott said was not racist? How do you define racism?
  - choeger 9mo ago
    It starts by believing that there are distinct human races (which there are not). That alone makes most US Americans racist based on language alone. No (sane) German would nowadays speak of "Rasse" to describe someone with a different skin color. Then, of course, racism consists of the believe that some races are intrinsically less valuable (in whatever sense) than others. I didn't see Scott Adams voice that part. But I might have missed it or it might have been implied. But it's important to note that US identity politics of the last couple of decades looks increasingly weird to me as an outsider in any case.
    - shermantanktop 9mo ago
      Using "Rasse" as a direct dictionary translation and then saying that it doesn't have the same cultural connotation in another culture is nonsensical. The term "race" means something in the context of American culture, which is due to our troubled history. And Adams' comments are also in the context of that same culture. But I believe some other countries have their own challenges living up to their nominal multi-ethnic ideals. Surely if I pop open a copy of Der Spiegel and start commenting about the finer points of an immigration policy proposal from an American perspective, I am going to get something wrong.
stetrain 9mo ago
You missed a few: "So I realized, as you know I've been identifying as Black for a while, years now, because I like to be on the winning team" "But as of today I'm going to re-identify as White, because I don't want to be a member of a hate group, I'd accidentally joined a hate group." "The best advice I would give to White people is to get away hell away from Black people, just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this, this can't be fixed, you just have to escape. So that's what I did, I went to a neighborhood where I have a very low Black population" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s
- deleted 9mo ago
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CodeWriter23 9mo ago
/whoosh

stetrain 9mo ago

"So I realized, as you know I've been identifying as Black for a while, years now, because I like to be on the winning team" "But as of today I'm going to re-identify as White, because I don't want to be a member of a hate group, I'd accidentally joined a hate group." "The best advice I would give to White people is to get away hell away from Black people, just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this, this can't be fixed, you just have to escape. So that's what I did, I went to a neighborhood where I have a very low Black population" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TnAn7qV1s

throw310822 9mo ago
The first is a (totally legitimate) dig at DEI policies, has nothing to do with racism; the other two need to be put in context, as he was reacting to a poll according to which a sizeable proportion of black people disagreed with the statement "it's ok to be white". Now, someone who disagrees with the statement "it's ok to belong to <ethnic group>" is usually called a racist. That's if we stick to the default meaning of words, without second and third guessing what people really mean to say when they deny it's ok to belong to an ethnic group. I think it's legitimate to be upset in this context and at the normalisation of such a thought, even to the point of reacting offensively.
- stetrain 9mo ago
  He combined those who disagree with those who were unsure to get up to 47%, and then declared that that meant that Black people were a hate group. I provided the link to the full episode for anyone who would like more context.
  - throw310822 9mo ago
    I'm curious how you would rate the statement: "I'm unsure it's ok to be Black".
    - stetrain 9mo ago