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The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.
by phillipcarter 9mo ago
The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.
- jtfrench 9mo agoWhat if their maximally vindictive traits just makes them want to use the same invasive tools and techniques?
- phillipcarter 9mo agoLike today? It’s entirely possible to prosecute the heads of all of these horrific things into the stone age, comb through internal data and throw every agent who’s murdered someone in jail, and not punish everyday people who just cast a vote.
- wyre 9mo agoCompared to the alternative of staying on our current path of American fascism and WW3? I’ll take the odds for vindictiveness.
- NeutralCrane 9mo agoThey already are. Playing nice and hoping the other side will come to their senses and return to normalcy doesn’t make sense when they’ve already shown you they will try to destroy you regardless.
- antonvs 9mo agoCareful, without any further qualification you just endorsed Stephen Miller.
- __loam 9mo ago[flagged]
- antonvs 9mo ago[flagged]
- UncleMeat 9mo agoTrying and punishing members of the Trump administration for their crimes is not the same as sending people to concentration camps for having a color of skin that Miller hates. It is not insightful to say "oh isn't this the same thing that the fascists are doing." It is anti-insight.
- antonvs 9mo ago> Trying and punishing members of the Trump administration for their crimes is not the same... Do you really believe that's being "vindictive", though? If so, why? That's a big part of the problem: people characterize following the law as being "vindictive", and comparable to actual vindictiveness. It's a big part of why the Democrats have been so unwilling to hold anyone to account. > It is not insightful to say "oh isn't this the same thing that the fascists are doing." Wanting vindictiveness is absolutely the same thing the fascists are doing. Part of what I'm pointing out is that we should characterize the actions that are needed in a more rational way.
- __loam 9mo ago[flagged]
- antonvs 9mo agoI'm sure it must seem that way to you.
- tomhow 9mo agoPlease don't use abusive terms like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- silisili 9mo ago> most maximally vindictive candidates I think that's how we got to this point today, tbh.
- moogly 9mo agoIt's been building for a long time; it's not recent per se, just accelerated. 2025 showed that you can't just go "ok, it's over now, we'll go back to business as usual" (like I know the limp-wristed Dems will want to do) or it'll repeat after every other election until it's successful. You just cannot have this many people constantly being convinced they live in this alternate reality for much longer without civilization collapse. But I think it's gone too far and we're witnessing the fall of the empire in real-time. I'm just hoping that fall won't screw up the rest of the world too much, but I'm pretty sure it will.
- jordanpg 9mo agoMore to the point, it's the collapse of the carefully balanced entente around things like WMD and war crimes that will be our undoing. Recent events have brought this into sharp focus. This is really the glue that holds it all together -- that we and our allies haven't even had to think about these things for our entire lives up until now. I hate to be hyperbolic, but I fear that fear of these things will soon become a looming presence in our lives. For the rest of our lives. And kids' lives. And grandkids' lives.
- rambojohnson 9mo agopussy-footing and reaching across the isle never did anyone of good conscience any good.
- whatever1 9mo agoNo we got to this point because the hope for a better future evaporated. People are thirsty for answers. Any answer to this question will have a big following. Gambling, influencing, day trading, kick out the immigrants, anything works as long as it can promise to change your life for the better.
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- empath75 9mo agoYeah I get into a more Jacobin and less Girondin mindset every week that goes by.
- GaryBluto 9mo ago[flagged]
- cindyllm 9mo ago[dead]
- b40d-48b2-979e 9mo agoOnly one side is using a federal police force to murder citizens.
- GaryBluto 9mo ago[flagged]
- b40d-48b2-979e 9mo agoI'm curious why you edited your comment? To appear more rational while making irrational tropes? > Only one side If you're going to use that tired old trope, maybe Reddit is a more suitable place for you. Thanks for reminding me to add it to my blocklist though. It is not a trope but a statement of fact.
- GaryBluto 9mo agoI thought better of that quoted paragraph as it contained little substance and was just rude goading, which is ironically what you are doing.
- eunoia 9mo agoHow dare you quote me!
- GaryBluto 9mo agoWhy is it impossible for most people (more specifically Americans in my experience) to act in good faith during political discussion? You can't even admit wrongdoing or poor phrasing without them twisting your words or deliberately misunderstanding you.