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This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

by jeffwask 9mo ago

cipehr 9mo ago
Agree. This is huge. Definitely makes me want to buy more Bose products for my house.
- dominick-cc 9mo ago
  Not huge, they didn't open source any code
riedel 9mo ago
Just to mention: Teufel has been even moving further with their fully open hardware design of MYND [0]. Hope others will follow. [0] https://teufel.de/mynd-107002004 https://teufel.de/mynd-107002004
- FredFS456 9mo ago
  I bought one just this week because of this. They really went above and beyond: - mechanical CAD, schematic and PCB files: https://docs.teufel.de/download/MYND/Open_Source_Hardware_Files.zip https://docs.teufel.de/download/MYND/Open_Source_Hardware_Fi... - firmware: https://github.com/teufelaudio/mynd-firmware https://github.com/teufelaudio/mynd-firmware - Bluetooth API documentation: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/image/upload/v1748589486/products/MYND/pdf/OA2302-MYND_OPEN_SOURCE-App-SW-Requirements-2025-05-23.pdf https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/image/upload/v1748589486/product... - battery repair/replacement guide: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/products/MYND/pdf/Teufel_MYND_RM_DE_V1.0_PD.pdf https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/products/MYND/pdf/Teufel_MYND_RM... I believe that they designed the mechanical parts to be 3D-printable as well.
  - gaudystead 9mo ago
    This is really cool! I'd be curious if one could 3D print different resonance chambers to get different desired sounds from the speaker.
    - FredFS456 9mo ago
      They do have very basic EQ but for sure you have enough documentation to modify the speaker itself if you'd like.
DiabloD3 9mo ago
Bose hardware quality is rather low and, and their sound quality is sub-par, while forcing you to pay the Bose brand tax, riding the corpse of Amar around for profit. I'd avoid, even if they happened to do this.
- makach 9mo ago
  Some of their high priced noise cancelling headphones have excellent quality. I purchased the QC-25 ages ago, and when it stopped working I reached out to support, this was beyond their 3y warranty, provided serial number and they sent me a new QC-35 no questions asked replacement unit. I am very happy with my QC-35 headphones. They are probably 5y+ now and they go with me everywhere. I think it is unfair to state their hw quality is low. It is much better than low.
  - maximilianthe1 9mo ago
    In current dynamic world product quality of a company 'today' vs '5y+ ago' may drastically change. Sadly, usually to the bad side
    - stewarts 9mo ago
      Bose's QC/QC Ultra lines continue to receive praise for comfort, durability, sound quality, noise cancellation, etc. They make pretty great consumer quality headphones. Until quite recently, they were widely one of if not the most recommended wireless headphones. The new Sennheiser's that come with a USB-C dongle might have finally stepped past what Bose has been delivering, but at a higher price.
      - wincy 9mo ago
        My wife normally isn’t one to splurge but after her Bose headphones died, we tried a couple other brands, returned them, and went with the QC-35 II despite them being more expensive. The “comfort” part is key, she’s on the spectrum and has a hard time with headphones irritating her, and these are hands down the most comfortable. We also like the Bose soundbar as it has a mode that makes dialogue more intelligible on our TV.
bartread 9mo ago
Exactly this. "Bose blows" is a popular comment amongst the audiophile community but, to me, it seems like they don't blow at all[0]. In fact quite the opposite: this is a fantastic example for other companies to follow. Top marks, Bose! [0] What is actually true is that they are opinionated about sound reproduction in ways that a bunch of people don't agree with but which in the right context are often effective and enjoyable to listen to.
- reactordev 9mo ago
  Seems to me like an executive saw klipsch failures and saw an opening to kill two birds with one stone. One, to show their support for audiophiles who supported them. Two, make superior products to klipsch that - ummm - actually state the real ranges of the speakers and use real copper windings instead of “painted” copper.
- filoleg 9mo ago
  > "Bose blows" is a popular comment amongst the audiophile community but, to me, it seems like they don't blow at all[0] That comment is not wrong, you are imo just not making an important distinction that the criteria on which audiophiles judge Bose as “blowing” (which is almost purely the sound profile + a few other smaller things like physical comfort/connectivity/price/etc.) vs. what you judge it on (which is more in the long-term technical user/community product support, idk how to describe that area much better) are almost entirely disjoint. It is perfectly fine and valid for an audio product to “blow” from an opinionated audiophile perspective, while being exceptionally great from the long-term product/user/community product support perspective. I heavily agree with you btw, Bose should be heavily lauded for making a decision to open-up their speaker firmware after it reaches the official end of support deadline. The fact that this is an exceptional practice is imo, a little bit sad, because I believe that it should be way more common.
  - bayindirh 9mo ago
    Came here to say exactly this. I consider myself an audiophile (the sane kind) and, if I want “that sound” and have time, I use my HiFi, but if I want to enjoy music and just relax, I use my Bose headphones with whatever thing I have close. I like how they color sound, and how they use psychoacoustics to do what they do. Audiophiles using music to listen their systems are missing the point.
hamdingers 9mo ago
Ironically this makes me want to buy this discontinued model, not anything currently supported by Bose.
- jcmfernandes 9mo ago
  It makes me want to buy both! Old to tinker with, new to support the move.
- inanutshellus 9mo ago
  A better way to say that is "This will boost the second-hand value of older Bose speakers". Budget-aware folks will buy these second-hand, neophiles will buy new, confident that long term solutions will exist even after "long term support" is over. Heck, even knowing there's a second-hand market makes me more likely to buy Bose new.
  - castillar76 9mo ago
    Many companies miss how important this is, too: they get caught up in "but if they buy it second-hand, they're not buying our new stuff!". When people buy the stuff second-hand, though, they become Bose fans — that means when the second-hand Bose stuff dies, they're more likely to replace it with new Bose stuff. That's particularly true with audio equipment, where people become attached not only to how something works but how it sounds. If they like Bose's rather particular audio signature, they'll keep buying more. Between that and the good-will they're getting from this move, this is making a ton of life-long Bose fans out of a lot of audio geeks. And if there's a community well-known for creating religions out of their hardware preferences...
    - freedomben 9mo ago
      Indeed, and also people buying second-hand are pretty unlikely to buy brand new if they aren't able to find the second-hand item (or use it). It's similar to piracy in that respect, that some people who pirate might have actually bought it, but the majority likely would not have anyway so can't just say "1,000 people pirated our thing, therefore we lost 1,000 sales". The cynic in me thinks they know that and just use it as a convenient way to over-inflate the damage piracy is doing to them, but that's a separate topic
RealSoyboyRoy 9mo ago
I’m a restaurant owner. Starting February I’m gonna spit in your food before serving it. > Uhhh I’m gonna tell all my friends to stop eating there I have decided to not spit in your food after all. Praise me.

This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

cipehr 9mo ago

Agree. This is huge. Definitely makes me want to buy more Bose products for my house.

dominick-cc 9mo ago
Not huge, they didn't open source any code

riedel 9mo ago

Just to mention: Teufel has been even moving further with their fully open hardware design of MYND [0]. Hope others will follow. [0] https://teufel.de/mynd-107002004 https://teufel.de/mynd-107002004

FredFS456 9mo ago
I bought one just this week because of this. They really went above and beyond: - mechanical CAD, schematic and PCB files: https://docs.teufel.de/download/MYND/Open_Source_Hardware_Files.zip https://docs.teufel.de/download/MYND/Open_Source_Hardware_Fi... - firmware: https://github.com/teufelaudio/mynd-firmware https://github.com/teufelaudio/mynd-firmware - Bluetooth API documentation: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/image/upload/v1748589486/products/MYND/pdf/OA2302-MYND_OPEN_SOURCE-App-SW-Requirements-2025-05-23.pdf https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/image/upload/v1748589486/product... - battery repair/replacement guide: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/products/MYND/pdf/Teufel_MYND_RM_DE_V1.0_PD.pdf https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/products/MYND/pdf/Teufel_MYND_RM... I believe that they designed the mechanical parts to be 3D-printable as well.
- gaudystead 9mo ago
  This is really cool! I'd be curious if one could 3D print different resonance chambers to get different desired sounds from the speaker.
  - FredFS456 9mo ago
    They do have very basic EQ but for sure you have enough documentation to modify the speaker itself if you'd like.

DiabloD3 9mo ago

Bose hardware quality is rather low and, and their sound quality is sub-par, while forcing you to pay the Bose brand tax, riding the corpse of Amar around for profit. I'd avoid, even if they happened to do this.

makach 9mo ago
Some of their high priced noise cancelling headphones have excellent quality. I purchased the QC-25 ages ago, and when it stopped working I reached out to support, this was beyond their 3y warranty, provided serial number and they sent me a new QC-35 no questions asked replacement unit. I am very happy with my QC-35 headphones. They are probably 5y+ now and they go with me everywhere. I think it is unfair to state their hw quality is low. It is much better than low.
- maximilianthe1 9mo ago
  In current dynamic world product quality of a company 'today' vs '5y+ ago' may drastically change. Sadly, usually to the bad side
  - stewarts 9mo ago
    Bose's QC/QC Ultra lines continue to receive praise for comfort, durability, sound quality, noise cancellation, etc. They make pretty great consumer quality headphones. Until quite recently, they were widely one of if not the most recommended wireless headphones. The new Sennheiser's that come with a USB-C dongle might have finally stepped past what Bose has been delivering, but at a higher price.
    - wincy 9mo ago
      My wife normally isn’t one to splurge but after her Bose headphones died, we tried a couple other brands, returned them, and went with the QC-35 II despite them being more expensive. The “comfort” part is key, she’s on the spectrum and has a hard time with headphones irritating her, and these are hands down the most comfortable. We also like the Bose soundbar as it has a mode that makes dialogue more intelligible on our TV.

bartread 9mo ago

Exactly this. "Bose blows" is a popular comment amongst the audiophile community but, to me, it seems like they don't blow at all[0]. In fact quite the opposite: this is a fantastic example for other companies to follow. Top marks, Bose! [0] What is actually true is that they are opinionated about sound reproduction in ways that a bunch of people don't agree with but which in the right context are often effective and enjoyable to listen to.

reactordev 9mo ago
Seems to me like an executive saw klipsch failures and saw an opening to kill two birds with one stone. One, to show their support for audiophiles who supported them. Two, make superior products to klipsch that - ummm - actually state the real ranges of the speakers and use real copper windings instead of “painted” copper.
filoleg 9mo ago
> "Bose blows" is a popular comment amongst the audiophile community but, to me, it seems like they don't blow at all[0] That comment is not wrong, you are imo just not making an important distinction that the criteria on which audiophiles judge Bose as “blowing” (which is almost purely the sound profile + a few other smaller things like physical comfort/connectivity/price/etc.) vs. what you judge it on (which is more in the long-term technical user/community product support, idk how to describe that area much better) are almost entirely disjoint. It is perfectly fine and valid for an audio product to “blow” from an opinionated audiophile perspective, while being exceptionally great from the long-term product/user/community product support perspective. I heavily agree with you btw, Bose should be heavily lauded for making a decision to open-up their speaker firmware after it reaches the official end of support deadline. The fact that this is an exceptional practice is imo, a little bit sad, because I believe that it should be way more common.
- bayindirh 9mo ago
  Came here to say exactly this. I consider myself an audiophile (the sane kind) and, if I want “that sound” and have time, I use my HiFi, but if I want to enjoy music and just relax, I use my Bose headphones with whatever thing I have close. I like how they color sound, and how they use psychoacoustics to do what they do. Audiophiles using music to listen their systems are missing the point.

hamdingers 9mo ago

Ironically this makes me want to buy this discontinued model, not anything currently supported by Bose.

jcmfernandes 9mo ago
It makes me want to buy both! Old to tinker with, new to support the move.
inanutshellus 9mo ago
A better way to say that is "This will boost the second-hand value of older Bose speakers". Budget-aware folks will buy these second-hand, neophiles will buy new, confident that long term solutions will exist even after "long term support" is over. Heck, even knowing there's a second-hand market makes me more likely to buy Bose new.
- castillar76 9mo ago
  Many companies miss how important this is, too: they get caught up in "but if they buy it second-hand, they're not buying our new stuff!". When people buy the stuff second-hand, though, they become Bose fans — that means when the second-hand Bose stuff dies, they're more likely to replace it with new Bose stuff. That's particularly true with audio equipment, where people become attached not only to how something works but how it sounds. If they like Bose's rather particular audio signature, they'll keep buying more. Between that and the good-will they're getting from this move, this is making a ton of life-long Bose fans out of a lot of audio geeks. And if there's a community well-known for creating religions out of their hardware preferences...
  - freedomben 9mo ago
    Indeed, and also people buying second-hand are pretty unlikely to buy brand new if they aren't able to find the second-hand item (or use it). It's similar to piracy in that respect, that some people who pirate might have actually bought it, but the majority likely would not have anyway so can't just say "1,000 people pirated our thing, therefore we lost 1,000 sales". The cynic in me thinks they know that and just use it as a convenient way to over-inflate the damage piracy is doing to them, but that's a separate topic

RealSoyboyRoy 9mo ago

I’m a restaurant owner. Starting February I’m gonna spit in your food before serving it. > Uhhh I’m gonna tell all my friends to stop eating there I have decided to not spit in your food after all. Praise me.