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I'm not much on X anymore due to the vitriol, and visiting now kinda proved it. Beneath almost every trending post made by a female is someone using grok to sex
by matsemann 9mo ago
I'm not much on X anymore due to the vitriol, and visiting now kinda proved it. Beneath almost every trending post made by a female is someone using grok to sexualize a picture of them.
(And whatever my timeline has become now is why I don't visit more often, wtf, used to only be cycling related)
Edit: just to bring receipts, 3 instances in a few scrolls: https://x.com/i/status/2007949859362672673 https://x.com/i/status/2007949859362672673 https://x.com/i/status/2007945902799941994 https://x.com/i/status/2007945902799941994 https://x.com/i/status/2008134466926150003 https://x.com/i/status/2008134466926150003
- QuercusMax 9mo agoI left when they started putting verified (paid) comments at the top of every conversation. Having the worst nazi views front and center on every comment isn't really a great experience.
- wahnfrieden 9mo agoThey also don’t take down overt Nazi content anymore. Accounts with all the standard unambiguous Nazi symbologies and hate content about their typical targets with associated slurs. With imagery of Hitler and praises of his policies. And calls for exterminating their perceived enemies and dehumanizing them as subhuman vermin. I’ve tried reporting many accounts and posts. It’s all protected now and boosted via payment.
- bakies 9mo agoWell the owner supports neo-nazi political parties, so that tracks.
- QuercusMax 9mo agoand of course he gave a very public Nazi salute
- zamadatix 9mo agoInviting a debate about what it was or wasn't only leads to a complete distractions over interpretation of a gesture when the dude already digs his own hole more deeply and more clearly in his feed anyways.
- QuercusMax 9mo ago[flagged]
- krona 9mo ago[flagged]
- bakies 9mo ago[flagged]
- krona 9mo agoThere was no "Sieg Heil!" either so maybe you're right!
- wahnfrieden 9mo agoNone of these kind of examples hold up under scrutiny when observed in video. There's a reason they're all shared as still photos or tiny blips of video which never shows the full motion salute that's being claimed.
- bakies 9mo agoExcept Elon's
- bakies 9mo agohttps://i.imgur.com/5KwUcDV.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/5KwUcDV.mp4
- slg 9mo agoI imagine I'm not the only one using HN less because both articles like this and comments like this are clearly being downvoted and/or flagged by a subset of users motivated by politics and the HN admin team seemingly doesn't consider that much of a problem. This story is incredibly relevant to a tech audience and this comment is objectively true and yet both are met with downvotes/flags. Whether HN wants to endorse a political ideology or not, their approach to handling these issues is a material support of the ideologies these stories and comments are criticizing.
- bakies 9mo agoI think there's brigading coming in to ruin these threads. I had several positive votes for a few minutes when stating a simple fact about Elon Musk and his support of neo-nazi political parties then -2 a min later edit: back to 14, kinda crazy
- dzhiurgis 9mo ago[flagged]
- femiagbabiaka 9mo agoAnecdotally I think that moderation has been a lot more lenient when it comes to political content in the last year than in years prior. I have no hard evidence that this is actually the case, but I think especially pre-2020 I'd see very little political content on HN and now I see much more. It's also probably true that both liberals and conservatives have become even more polarized, leading to bad-faith flagging and downvoting, but I'm actually not sure what could be done about that, seems similar to anti-botting protections which is an arms race
- slg 9mo agoThis story belongs on this site regardless of politics. It is specifically about both AI and social media. Downvoting/flagging this story is much more politically motivated than posting/upvoting it.
- dzhiurgis 9mo agoWould be trivial to provide links to this content. Personally I've never seen anything like this.
- femiagbabiaka 9mo agoSearch for user h0wlingmutant
- dzhiurgis 9mo agoHuh? Nothing appears. Once again - links are trivial to share. Otherwise this is hearsay.
- wahnfrieden 9mo agoThey meant howlingmutant0 but I don't know which posts they refer to The ones I reported, I deleted the report emails so I can't help you at this moment. I don't know why you're surprised - you can go looking yourself and find examples
- dzhiurgis 9mo agoYeah I went thru his media. There was some backwards swastika that someone drawn on a synagogue. People were mocking the fact that idiots can't even draw that correctly.
- BigTTYGothGF 9mo agoAre you seriously asking for links to CSAM?
- dzhiurgis 9mo agoContext was nazi content. Apparently X is swimming in it. Yet nobody can provide evidence.
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- jutter 9mo ago[flagged]
- soldthat 9mo ago[flagged]
- rsynnott 9mo ago> I’ve tried reporting many accounts and posts. I mean, honestly, you are wasting your time. Why would you expect the website run by the guy who likes giving Nazi salutes on TV to take down Nazi content? There's no point trying to engage with Twitter in good faith at this point; only real option is to stop using and move on (or hang out in the Nazi bar, I guess).
- russdill 9mo agoIt's gotten worse and yet more bland. The top few comments are almost always AI generated engagement farming posts.
- nbaugh1 9mo agoThe new engagement bait technique is "vague posting" so that people need to click into the comments and ask for specifics, its terrible
- MaysonL 9mo agoApple News does that a lot.
- roadside_picnic 9mo agoTo be fair, as someone who used to manage an X account for a very small startup as part of my role (glad that's no longer the case), for a long time (probably still the case) posting direct links would penalize your reach. So making a helpful, self-contained post your followers might find useful was algorithmically discouraged. Everything that is awful in the diff between X and Twitter is there entirely by decision and design.
- trafficante 9mo agoVagueposting is a different beast. There’s almost never any intention of informing etc; it’s just: QT a trending semi-controversial topic, tack on something like “imagine not knowing the real reason behind this”, and the replies are jammed full of competitive theories as to what the OP was implying. It’s fundamentally just another way of boosting account engagement metrics by encouraging repliers to signal that they are smart and clued-in. But it seems to work exceptionally well because it’s inescapable at the moment.
- beAbU 9mo agoVague posting is as old as social networks. I had loads of fun back in the day responding to all the "you know who you are" posts on facebook, when it's clearly not aimed at me.
- rsynnott 9mo agoI've got to imagine that Musk fired literally all of the product people. Pay-for-attention was just such an obviously bad idea, with a very long history of destroying social websites.
- ModernMech 9mo ago[flagged]
- rsynnott 9mo agoEven on that theory, _not long term_, because for that sort of thing to work you still have to draw victims in, and breaking it as a social website will tend to discourage that.
- ModernMech 9mo ago[flagged]
- addandsubtract 9mo agoThe problem is that the media still uses X in it's reporting, and people still use and link to it. If we just stopped using X and stripped it of any legitimacy, it would fall off pretty quickly.
- Schmerika 9mo agoTwitter also doesn't need users to fulfil Musk's goal of destroying a key factor in many (all?) people-powered movements. Occupy Wall Street, Arab Spring, BLM. And I'm sure that's a factor in why people like Larry Ellison and Saudi princes stumped up some of the money.
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- dec0dedab0de 9mo agoI normally stay away too, but just decided to scroll through grok’s replies to see how wide spread it really is. It looks like it is a pretty big problem, and not just for women. Though, I must say that Xi Jinping in a bikini made me laugh. I’m not sure if this is much worse than the textual hate and harassment being thrown around willy nilly over there. That negativity is really why I never got into it, even when it was twitter I thought it was gross.
- jandrese 9mo agoBefore Elon bought it out it was mostly possible to contain the hate with a carefully curated feed. Afterward the first reply on any post is some blue check Nazi and/or bot. Elon amplifying the racism by reposting white supremacist content, no matter how fabricated/false/misleading, is quite a signal to send to the rest of the userbase.
- bakies 9mo agohe's rigged the algorithm to boost content he interacts with, unbanned and stopped moderating nazi content and then boosted those accounts by interacting with them.
- Tade0 9mo ago> Though, I must say that Xi Jinping in a bikini made me laugh. I haven't seen Xi, but I am unfortunate enough to know that such an animated depiction of Maduro also exists. These people are clearly doing it largely for shock value.
- tencentshill 9mo agoSo it's basically 4chan now. Whatever gets reactions, anything goes.
- jandrese 9mo agoHmm, I have an old Twitter account. Elon promised that he was going to make it the best site ever, lets see what the algorithm feeds me today, January 5 2026. 1. Denmark taxes its rich people and has a high standard of living. 2. Scammy looking ad for investments in a blood screening company. 3. Guy clearing ice from a drainpipe, old video but fun to watch. 4. Oil is not actually a fossil fuel, it is "a gift from the Earth" 5. Elon himself reposting a racist fabrication about black people in Minnesota. 6. Climate change is a liberal lie to destroy western civilization. CO2 is plant food, liberals are trying to starve the world by killing off the plants. 7. Something about an old lighthouse surviving for a long time. 8. Vaccine conspiracy theories 9. Outright racism against Africans, claiming they are too dumb to sustain civilized society without white men running it. 10. One of those bullshit AI videos where the AI doesn't understand how pouring resin works. 11. Microsoft released an AI that is going to change everything, for real this time, we promise. 12. Climate change denialism 13. A post claiming that the Africa and South America aren't poor because they were robbed of resources during the colonial era and beyond, but because they are too dumb to run their countries. 14. A guy showing how you can pack fragile items using expanding foam and plastic bags. He makes it look effortless, but glosses over how he measures out the amount of foam to use. 15. Hornypost asking Grok to undress a young Asian lady standing in front of a tree. 16. Post claiming that the COVID-19 vaccine caused a massive spike (5 million to 150 million) cases of myocarditis. 17. A sad post from a guy depressed that a survey of college girls said that a large majority of them find MAGA support to be a turn off. 18. Some film clip with Morgan Freeman standing on a X and getting sniped from an improbable distance 19. AI bullshit clip about people walking into bottomless pits 20. A video clip of a woman being confused as to why financial aid forms now require you to list your ethnicity when you click on "white", with the only suboptions being German, Irish, English, Italian, Polish, and French. Special bonus post: Peter St Ogne, Ph. D claims "The Tenth Amendment says the federal government can only do things expressly listed in the Constitution -- every other federal activity is illegal." Are you wondering what federal activity he is angry about? Financial support for daycare. So yeah, while it wasn't a total and complete loss it is obvious that the noise far exceeds the signal. It is maybe a bit of a shock just how much blatant climate change denialism, racism, and vaccine conspiracies are front page material. I'm saddened that there are people who are reading this every day and taking it to heart. The level of outright racism is quite shocking too. It's not even up for debate that black people are just plain inferior to the glorious aryan race on Twitter. This is supposedly the #1 news source on the Internet? Ouch. Edit: Got the year wrong at the top of the post, fixed.
- zetanor 9mo agoThe best use of generative AI is as an excuse for everyone to stop posting pictures of themselves (or of their children, or of anyone else) online. If you don't overshare (and don't get overshared), you can't get Grok'd.
- thrance 9mo agoSounds a lot like a "they're asking for it"-type argument.
- zetanor 9mo agoThere's a difference between merely existing in public, versus vying for attention in a venue where several brands of "aim this at a patron to see them in a bikini" machines are installed.
- lawlessone 9mo ago>versus vying for attention in a venue where several brands of "aim this at a patron to see them in a bikini" machines are installed. The CSAM machine is only a recent addition.
- freejazz 9mo ago>There's a difference between merely existing in public, versus vying for attention And you thought that was a different argument than "you shouldn't have worn that skirt if you didn't want to get raped"?
- ValentineC 9mo agoX wrote in offering to pay something for my OG username, because fElon wanted it for one of his Grok characters. I told them to make an offer, only for them to invoke their Terms of Service and steal it instead. Fuck X.
- runjake 9mo ago> Beneath almost every trending post made by a female is someone using grok to sexualize a picture of them. It's become a bit of a meme to do this right now on X. FWIW (very little), it's also on a lot of male posts, as well. None of that excuses this behavior.