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Anna Archive is a notable project. Wikipedia displays links to projects. It's not about "being used as DNS" but about providing basic info about the topic, URL

by miroljub 10mo ago

Anna Archive is a notable project. Wikipedia displays links to projects. It's not about "being used as DNS" but about providing basic info about the topic, URL being an important part of it.

blell 10mo ago
Kiwifarms is also a notable web site but they do not show a link to it. This means there is editorialisation going on.
- miroljub 10mo ago
  That's a common problem of English, German, and a few more Wikipedia editor gangs seeing themselves as the moral guardians of the internet. If you switch to some other languages, you'll find the links.
  - gpm 10mo ago
    Having a sense of morality is not a problem. Good for them.
    - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
      [flagged]
      - taco_emoji 10mo ago
        So I guess your implication is that a catalog of sex acts is somehow immoral?
        schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
        [flagged]
      - gpm 10mo ago
        Your point is that... Wikpedia editors choice to have articles about sex acts is morally inconsistent with a choice not to have direct links to a site a based around harassing, stalking, doxing, etc that has been directly tied to multiple suicides? I don't see the connection frankly. PS. English Wikipedia also does not appear to have an "Anal Creampie" article, let alone one with an animation.
        schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
        [flagged]
        gpm 10mo ago
        Oh look, an article which isn't titled what you claimed, or about what you claimed, and doesn't include an animation. Who? And I still don't see the moral relevance of any of this to choosing not to link to a site that has harassed people into killing themselves.
        timeon 10mo ago
        How did you found the link?
        BigTTYGothGF 10mo ago
        The picture clearly depicts--and believe it or not I never thought I'd write these words on the Hacker News internet forum sponsored by YCombinator--a vaginal creampie, not an anal one, nor does it seem to be, as you'd previously implied, animated.
- GuinansEyebrows 10mo ago
  reasonably explained by the chasm of difference in intent and impact between anna's archive and kiwifarms
- lazzlazzlazz 10mo ago
  [flagged]
  - slater 10mo ago
    It's none of those things.
  - gpm 10mo ago
    As much as I'd like to claim the values [1] that Wikimedia (the foundation behind wikipedia) supports as a progressive - I think they're quite independent of the progressive/conservative spectrum. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/public-policy/ https://wikimediafoundation.org/public-policy/
    - redeeman 10mo ago
      well I guess if they claim it themselves. I heard Israel doesnt think its comitting genocide, that Russia is rightously doing gods work. Whom did i hear it from? well, themselves of course!
      - soldthat 10mo ago
        [flagged]
  - metalliqaz 10mo ago
    As Stephen Colbert once said, "Everyone knows reality has a clear liberal bias." When conservatism has explicitly turned against enlightenment values, the opposite would be anti-conservative. I'm glad someone hasn't given up the fight.
- schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
  [flagged]
  - spencerflem 10mo ago
    What a crazy worldview: to think that good things are good and bad things are bad.
    - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
      Who is the official judge and jury of the Internet?
      - spencerflem 10mo ago
        In this specific case of what’s allowed on wikipedia: the Wikimedia Foundation
hirako2000 10mo ago
But this mechanism is used to circumvent DNS blockade. Wikipedia may be next to moderate if they can force DNS providers and even the org registrar to give in, wikipedia could fold too. Then pastebin, never ending cat and mouse game.
- zelphirkalt 10mo ago
  DNS is another layer. The URLs shown on Wikipedia will still have to be resolved to IP addresses, which is where DNS comes in. Referring to Wikipedia for the URLs/domains does nothing to circumvent DNS blockades.
  - miyuru 10mo ago
    Maybe with the upcoming IP address certificates, we can use IP addresses again. I remember using IP addresses to access some sites in the past. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44379034 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44379034
    - rzerowan 10mo ago
      Evenn though its onelayer down - the same tactics that were used to suspend/takeover domains would still apply , at the end of the day one still has to get the IPv4/IPv6 address from someone(who can be coerced).
      - immibis 10mo ago
        When Trump pressures RIPE NCC or APNIC to deregister an IP address block, that's the end of the internet as we know it, and the return to national networks with very limited interconnection. Even Russia still has address registrations despite being sanctioned. Alternatively they pressure USA ISPs to block the addresses. That's already regularly done but it probably won't be enough to satisfy the extortion industrial complex which is out for blood.
        miroljub 10mo ago

Anna Archive is a notable project. Wikipedia displays links to projects. It's not about "being used as DNS" but about providing basic info about the topic, URL being an important part of it.

blell 10mo ago

Kiwifarms is also a notable web site but they do not show a link to it. This means there is editorialisation going on.

miroljub 10mo ago
That's a common problem of English, German, and a few more Wikipedia editor gangs seeing themselves as the moral guardians of the internet. If you switch to some other languages, you'll find the links.
- gpm 10mo ago
  Having a sense of morality is not a problem. Good for them.
  - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
    [flagged]
    - taco_emoji 10mo ago
      So I guess your implication is that a catalog of sex acts is somehow immoral?
      - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
        [flagged]
    - gpm 10mo ago
      Your point is that... Wikpedia editors choice to have articles about sex acts is morally inconsistent with a choice not to have direct links to a site a based around harassing, stalking, doxing, etc that has been directly tied to multiple suicides? I don't see the connection frankly. PS. English Wikipedia also does not appear to have an "Anal Creampie" article, let alone one with an animation.
      - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
        [flagged]
        gpm 10mo ago
        Oh look, an article which isn't titled what you claimed, or about what you claimed, and doesn't include an animation. Who? And I still don't see the moral relevance of any of this to choosing not to link to a site that has harassed people into killing themselves.
        timeon 10mo ago
        How did you found the link?
        BigTTYGothGF 10mo ago
        The picture clearly depicts--and believe it or not I never thought I'd write these words on the Hacker News internet forum sponsored by YCombinator--a vaginal creampie, not an anal one, nor does it seem to be, as you'd previously implied, animated.
GuinansEyebrows 10mo ago
reasonably explained by the chasm of difference in intent and impact between anna's archive and kiwifarms
lazzlazzlazz 10mo ago
[flagged]
- slater 10mo ago
  It's none of those things.
- gpm 10mo ago
  As much as I'd like to claim the values [1] that Wikimedia (the foundation behind wikipedia) supports as a progressive - I think they're quite independent of the progressive/conservative spectrum. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/public-policy/ https://wikimediafoundation.org/public-policy/
  - redeeman 10mo ago
    well I guess if they claim it themselves. I heard Israel doesnt think its comitting genocide, that Russia is rightously doing gods work. Whom did i hear it from? well, themselves of course!
    - soldthat 10mo ago
      [flagged]
- metalliqaz 10mo ago
  As Stephen Colbert once said, "Everyone knows reality has a clear liberal bias." When conservatism has explicitly turned against enlightenment values, the opposite would be anti-conservative. I'm glad someone hasn't given up the fight.
schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
[flagged]
- spencerflem 10mo ago
  What a crazy worldview: to think that good things are good and bad things are bad.
  - schmuckonwheels 10mo ago
    Who is the official judge and jury of the Internet?
    - spencerflem 10mo ago
      In this specific case of what’s allowed on wikipedia: the Wikimedia Foundation

hirako2000 10mo ago

But this mechanism is used to circumvent DNS blockade. Wikipedia may be next to moderate if they can force DNS providers and even the org registrar to give in, wikipedia could fold too. Then pastebin, never ending cat and mouse game.

zelphirkalt 10mo ago
DNS is another layer. The URLs shown on Wikipedia will still have to be resolved to IP addresses, which is where DNS comes in. Referring to Wikipedia for the URLs/domains does nothing to circumvent DNS blockades.
- miyuru 10mo ago
  Maybe with the upcoming IP address certificates, we can use IP addresses again. I remember using IP addresses to access some sites in the past. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44379034 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44379034
  - rzerowan 10mo ago
    Evenn though its onelayer down - the same tactics that were used to suspend/takeover domains would still apply , at the end of the day one still has to get the IPv4/IPv6 address from someone(who can be coerced).
    - immibis 10mo ago
      When Trump pressures RIPE NCC or APNIC to deregister an IP address block, that's the end of the internet as we know it, and the return to national networks with very limited interconnection. Even Russia still has address registrations despite being sanctioned. Alternatively they pressure USA ISPs to block the addresses. That's already regularly done but it probably won't be enough to satisfy the extortion industrial complex which is out for blood.
      - miroljub 10mo ago