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If only the directors didn't make everything so dark and hard to see. Also stopped messing with sound, making it impossible to hear dialogues.
by freitasm 9mo ago
If only the directors didn't make everything so dark and hard to see. Also stopped messing with sound, making it impossible to hear dialogues.
- jerlam 9mo agoI'm surprised they didn't mention turning off closed captioning, because understanding the dialog is less important than experiencing the creator's intent.
- etempleton 9mo agoI haven’t experienced issues understanding dialogue in Stranger Things, for what it’s worth.
- tartuffe78 9mo agoIt helps that they're mostly shouting explanations at each other.
- etempleton 9mo agoHaha, this is very true. They really narrate what they are doing.
- pupppet 9mo agoNetflix shows in particular are ridiculously dark.
- etempleton 9mo agoHeavily compressed.
- lostlogin 9mo agoIf you check it will say the resolution is AMAZING. Despite being a subscriber I pirate their shows to get some pixels.
- bawolff 9mo agoThings can be both high resolution and still low quality due to being overcompressed.
- bombcar 9mo agoI really wish they had to advertise streams at bitrate and not resolution.
- layer8 9mo agoBitrate still won’t tell you how bad the encoding is. There can be dramatic differences at the same or inverse bitrate.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 9mo agoThis is true for amateurs encoding video files to be pirated, but for the mega corps, sending more bits costs more money. Many years ago, I had a couple drinks with a guy from Netflix who worked on their video compression processes, and he fully convinced me they're squeezing every last drop out of every bit they send down the pipes. The quality is not great compared to some other streaming services, but it's actually kind of amazing how they're able to get away with serving such tiny files. Anyway, I think we can expect these companies to mostly max out the resultant video quality of their bitstreams, and showing the average bitrate of their pricing tiers would be a great yardstick for consumers.
- miyuru 9mo agoNetflix's main audience is general public who still cannot differentiate between mbps and MBps. for us nerds there is hidden stats for nerds option. https://blog.sayan.page/netflix-debug-mode/ https://blog.sayan.page/netflix-debug-mode/
- joquarky 9mo agoWhich is even worse since darker gradients seem to leave more visible compression artifacts.
- throw-12-16 9mo agoFlatscreen TVs have terrible speakers, especially for speech.
- mystifyingpoi 9mo agoI've watched Silo season 2 and it is basically impossible to watch it during the day. Only at night, with brightness cranked up to 100%.
- Nursie 9mo agoGame of Thrones S8E3. Could barely tell what was going on, everything was so dark, and black crush killed it completely, making it look blocky and janky. I watched it again a few years later, on max brightness, sitting in the dark, and I got more of what was going on, but it still looked terrible. One day I'll watch the 'UHD' 4k HDR version and maybe I'll be able to see what it was supposed to look like.
- charles_f 9mo agoOr all of terminal list. That show is so extremely dark that it might as well just be voices over a screen saver.
- anon7000 9mo agoProblem is, you’ll have to find a high bitrate version. Whatever they streamed on HBO the day of release was really shitty bitrate which crushes detail in detail-starved scenes like these
- Nursie 9mo agoI tried a load of different versions including blu-ray rips IIRC, and it was all just as bad. When I last rewatched it (early pandemic), as far as I could tell at the time there was no HDR version available, which I assume would fix it by being able to represent more variation in the darker colours. I might hunt one down at some point as it does exist now. Though it still wouldn’t make season 8 ‘good’ !!
- Hikikomori 9mo agoMy LG oled will go darker by itself during prolonged dark scenes, its not noticeable (other than that you can't see anything and you're not sure if its correct or not) until you get to a slightly brighter scene, can get it to stop for a bit by opening a menu.
- EbNar 9mo agoIncidentally, that's the reason why I love photography in Nolan's movies: he seems to love scenes with bright light in which you can actually see what's going on. Most other movies/series instead are so dark that make my mid-range TV look like crap. And no, it's not an HW fault, as 500 nits should be enough to watch a movie.
- machomaster 9mo agoVery ironic that it is Nolan who is widely known for consiously making movies with incomprehensible dialogue.
- EbNar 9mo agoYeah... At home we have partially solved this problem by using a BT speaker on the table, as we mostly watch movie while we have dinner. Simple and effective.
- throwaway270925 9mo agoThere is a difference between dialogue you aren't supposed to understand (Nolan) and dialogue you should understand but can't (basically everyone else)
- mvdtnz 9mo agoHave you seen Tenet? Almost the entire movie is impossible to understand, and it's a film that depends heavily on exposition.
- knorker 9mo agoBy making the exposition unintelligible, I guess he's illustrating how complicated time travel makes a story. Except Primer did that without this crutch.
- wil421 9mo agoMentioned this elsewhere but The Dark Knight Rises is one of the worst dark movie offenders. When someone says dark movie scenes it’s what comes to my mind. That one confusing backwards movie has terrible audio he did on purpose. Oppenheimer didnt suffer from either of those issues but I’ve only watched it once on a good TV.
- y-curious 9mo agoSee the color palettes of any 2015+ blockbuster[1] to validate your belief (save for Wes Anderson, maybe). 1: https://i.redd.it/nyrs8vsil6m41.jpg https://i.redd.it/nyrs8vsil6m41.jpg