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I think this sums it up pretty well. "When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than yo

I think this sums it up pretty well. "When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles,"

azinman2 9mo ago
That’s exactly right.
ianlevesque 9mo ago
Yeah, except there aren't even principles at play here. For example, streamline all regulatory approvals, oh except for disfavored groups: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/speed-act-passes-in-house-despite-changes-that-threaten-clean-power-projects/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/speed-act-passes...
- lovich 9mo ago
  That is very much in line with their principles. A more accurate quote for them is "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
  - Fnoord 9mo ago
    "Rules for thee but not for me."
  - nomdep 9mo ago
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- DustinEchoes 9mo ago
  It’s just pure reaction. Liberals favor renewable energy, so MAGA opposes it. Liberals favor climate science, so MAGA opposes it.
  - cryptoegorophy 9mo ago
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    - g-b-r 9mo ago
      Examples?
    - Eupolemos 9mo ago
      Do you have a good example?
      - moralestapia 9mo ago
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        nawgz 9mo ago
        Which of these have been met with scorn by liberals? You seem to not get the idea...
        moralestapia 9mo ago
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        deleted 9mo ago
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        nawgz 9mo ago
        Yes, you're right, I should google to make your arguments for you! Listing a bunch of white house links and then 2 criticisms (edit: he got it up to about 6 criticisms of marijuana legislation, wow!) which aren't even really about the action but more about the general malfeasance of the administration is an extremely weak supporting argument behind "liberals criticize anything good Trump does the same way conservatives criticized anything good Biden did", because we can identify plentiful examples of naked hypocrisy around the criticisms of Biden - see the autopen debacle for one hilariously manufactured self-owning example. It must really be quite trying to justify Trump's actions, I'm amazed you have failed to use any of that energy on introspection.
- plagiarist 9mo ago
  The principles are difficult for you to detect because your values are things like truth or integrity. Their values are just about forming hierarchy.
  - BurningFrog 9mo ago
    This is of course the standard human view of our ingroup vs our outgroup. The MAGA people, believe it or not, say very similar things about you.
    - saagarjha 9mo ago
      I’m sure they do. But you can see the results of the current administration here.
    - SpicyLemonZest 9mo ago
      They say much worse things about me! Donald Trump, the leader of the MAGA people, released a Christmas greeting calling me scum (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115777270368444049 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1157772703684...) - I've never done that and would never do that to even my worst political opponents. I don't understand why people persist in drawing this false equivalence. Are you in a media bubble where you don't see the things Trump says and does?
    - tastyface 9mo ago
      They are lying. It's a problem how many people seemingly have broken lie detectors these days. I blame social media for this one: far too easy to find a truthy bubble that validates your beliefs.
narrator 9mo ago
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- saagarjha 9mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline#Protests_and_opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline#Protests_and...
  - narrator 9mo ago
    Another example of leftists not understanding things that are obvious. Just because you're protesting doesn't mean you can do things that would be illegal if you weren't protesting. That I have to explain this to you is really annoying.
    - saagarjha 9mo ago
      Oh you definitely can, this is often the point of the protest.
saubeidl 9mo ago
They're not the first with this line of thinking. > When our enemies say: well, we gave you the freedom of opinion back then - yeah, you gave it to us, that's in no way evidence that we should return the favor! Your stupidity shall not be contagious! That you granted it to us is evidence of how dumb you are! -- Joseph Goebbels, 1935

azinman2 9mo ago

That’s exactly right.

ianlevesque 9mo ago

Yeah, except there aren't even principles at play here. For example, streamline all regulatory approvals, oh except for disfavored groups: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/speed-act-passes-in-house-despite-changes-that-threaten-clean-power-projects/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/speed-act-passes...

lovich 9mo ago
That is very much in line with their principles. A more accurate quote for them is "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
- Fnoord 9mo ago
  "Rules for thee but not for me."
- nomdep 9mo ago
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DustinEchoes 9mo ago
It’s just pure reaction. Liberals favor renewable energy, so MAGA opposes it. Liberals favor climate science, so MAGA opposes it.
- cryptoegorophy 9mo ago
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  - g-b-r 9mo ago
    Examples?
  - Eupolemos 9mo ago
    Do you have a good example?
    - moralestapia 9mo ago
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      - nawgz 9mo ago
        Which of these have been met with scorn by liberals? You seem to not get the idea...
        moralestapia 9mo ago
        [flagged]
        deleted 9mo ago
        [deleted]
        nawgz 9mo ago
        Yes, you're right, I should google to make your arguments for you! Listing a bunch of white house links and then 2 criticisms (edit: he got it up to about 6 criticisms of marijuana legislation, wow!) which aren't even really about the action but more about the general malfeasance of the administration is an extremely weak supporting argument behind "liberals criticize anything good Trump does the same way conservatives criticized anything good Biden did", because we can identify plentiful examples of naked hypocrisy around the criticisms of Biden - see the autopen debacle for one hilariously manufactured self-owning example. It must really be quite trying to justify Trump's actions, I'm amazed you have failed to use any of that energy on introspection.
plagiarist 9mo ago
The principles are difficult for you to detect because your values are things like truth or integrity. Their values are just about forming hierarchy.
- BurningFrog 9mo ago
  This is of course the standard human view of our ingroup vs our outgroup. The MAGA people, believe it or not, say very similar things about you.
  - saagarjha 9mo ago
    I’m sure they do. But you can see the results of the current administration here.
  - SpicyLemonZest 9mo ago
    They say much worse things about me! Donald Trump, the leader of the MAGA people, released a Christmas greeting calling me scum (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115777270368444049 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1157772703684...) - I've never done that and would never do that to even my worst political opponents. I don't understand why people persist in drawing this false equivalence. Are you in a media bubble where you don't see the things Trump says and does?
  - tastyface 9mo ago
    They are lying. It's a problem how many people seemingly have broken lie detectors these days. I blame social media for this one: far too easy to find a truthy bubble that validates your beliefs.

narrator 9mo ago

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saagarjha 9mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline#Protests_and_opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline#Protests_and...
- narrator 9mo ago
  Another example of leftists not understanding things that are obvious. Just because you're protesting doesn't mean you can do things that would be illegal if you weren't protesting. That I have to explain this to you is really annoying.
  - saagarjha 9mo ago
    Oh you definitely can, this is often the point of the protest.

saubeidl 9mo ago

They're not the first with this line of thinking. > When our enemies say: well, we gave you the freedom of opinion back then - yeah, you gave it to us, that's in no way evidence that we should return the favor! Your stupidity shall not be contagious! That you granted it to us is evidence of how dumb you are! -- Joseph Goebbels, 1935