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You may not be aware, but China experiences mass stabbings -albeit not at the same rate as the US: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dxz1vzdyzo https://www.bb

by mc32 10mo ago

You may not be aware, but China experiences mass stabbings -albeit not at the same rate as the US: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dxz1vzdyzo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dxz1vzdyzo That's to say, every society has its discontents who take their anger and frustration and discharge it on innocent civilians. Some societies manage their mentally ill people better than others. We do a pretty pitiful job at it.

Insanity 10mo ago
19 mass stabbings in 2024 in China vs 586 mass shooting incidents in the USA. Per capita, that's even worse. EDIT: I used ChatGPT 'thinking mode' to get that number for USA. Where mass shooting >= 4 people injured.
- exceptione 10mo ago
  > EDIT: I used ChatGPT You are well-intending, but don't do that for factual information. I have seen discussions derail because of hallucinated parliamentary history; and the concept of truth became irrelevant.
- cwillu 10mo ago
  In the future, get it to give citations, and then use the citations instead. AI is like porn: use it if you must, but don't make it my problem.
  - pseudalopex 10mo ago
    And confirm the citations.
JohnMakin 10mo ago
Mental illness as a culprit is a pretty tired explanation of these events. Statistically, mentally ill people are far more likely to be victims of violence than to perpetrate it, and in many of these events, there is a clear lack of diagnosable or observable illness to begin with. Besides that, even if you don't believe the numbers here, it's possible to improve mental illness treatment and legislate gun control responsibly, it's not an either-or thing. TLDR "Mental illness" is a very tired, very poor explanation for the phenomenon, not even to mention it perpetuates and encourages stigma. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/ce-mental-illness https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/ce-mental-illness
- phainopepla2 10mo ago
  > Statistically, mentally ill people are far more likely to be victims of violence than to perpetrate it I think this is one of cases where a broad label like "mental illness" obscures more than it clarifies. There are some subgroups of people with mental illness (schizophrenia, bipolar, antisocial personality disorder) who are more likely to commit violence than others, especially when combined with substance abuse. But of course that fact doesn't generalize to all people with mental illness.
seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
Stabbing is harder than shooting people, so mass stabbings exist, they just can’t happen as often or do as much damage as mass shootings. Guns are just incredibly convenient and efficient for doing harm. Stabbings takes effort, which is why China’s homicide/suicide rate is lower than the USA’s, even if binary thinkers like to point out that it is still non-zero.

by mc32 10mo ago

Insanity 10mo ago

19 mass stabbings in 2024 in China vs 586 mass shooting incidents in the USA. Per capita, that's even worse. EDIT: I used ChatGPT 'thinking mode' to get that number for USA. Where mass shooting >= 4 people injured.

exceptione 10mo ago
> EDIT: I used ChatGPT You are well-intending, but don't do that for factual information. I have seen discussions derail because of hallucinated parliamentary history; and the concept of truth became irrelevant.
cwillu 10mo ago
In the future, get it to give citations, and then use the citations instead. AI is like porn: use it if you must, but don't make it my problem.
- pseudalopex 10mo ago
  And confirm the citations.

JohnMakin 10mo ago

Mental illness as a culprit is a pretty tired explanation of these events. Statistically, mentally ill people are far more likely to be victims of violence than to perpetrate it, and in many of these events, there is a clear lack of diagnosable or observable illness to begin with. Besides that, even if you don't believe the numbers here, it's possible to improve mental illness treatment and legislate gun control responsibly, it's not an either-or thing. TLDR "Mental illness" is a very tired, very poor explanation for the phenomenon, not even to mention it perpetuates and encourages stigma. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/ce-mental-illness https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/ce-mental-illness

phainopepla2 10mo ago
> Statistically, mentally ill people are far more likely to be victims of violence than to perpetrate it I think this is one of cases where a broad label like "mental illness" obscures more than it clarifies. There are some subgroups of people with mental illness (schizophrenia, bipolar, antisocial personality disorder) who are more likely to commit violence than others, especially when combined with substance abuse. But of course that fact doesn't generalize to all people with mental illness.

seanmcdirmid 10mo ago

Stabbing is harder than shooting people, so mass stabbings exist, they just can’t happen as often or do as much damage as mass shootings. Guns are just incredibly convenient and efficient for doing harm. Stabbings takes effort, which is why China’s homicide/suicide rate is lower than the USA’s, even if binary thinkers like to point out that it is still non-zero.