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Show HN: Jmail – Google Suite for Epstein files

1557 points by lukeigel 10mo ago

Hi everyone! My name's Luke and I made the original Jmail here alongside Riley Walz. We had a ton of friends collaborate on building out more of the app suite last night in lieue of DOJ's "Epstein files" release. Please AMA!

lifestyleguru 10mo ago
Everytime I watch these private jets and helicopters I wonder why flying economy class has to be so miserable in terms of horizontal, vertical, and leg space.
nee1r 10mo ago
being able to search through the files when they're purposefully so obfuscated is great
dvrp 10mo ago
See also: - JPhotos: https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos - JDrive: https://www.jmail.world/drive https://www.jmail.world/drive - JAmazon: https://www.jmail.world/jamazon https://www.jmail.world/jamazon
- jtfrench 10mo ago
  No way. Next level.
dvrp 10mo ago
I participated on this project, but I'm not the main contributor. In fact, I'm working on running an ML model to get some nice gaussian splat visualizations of some of the relevant images based on the recent release by Apple's model: SHARP. It allows doing inference of a PLY point-cloud based on a single JPG image. Hopefully I can merge some UI for it soon, but I'm away from my main computer right now. EDIT: I'm going to text my friend Luke to comment and answer any questions about the project. EDIT2: I am also happy to expand on the technical details of the project once I get a stable internet connection.
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Yes, thanks Diego! Really excited about this. I'm one of the co-creators of Jmail alongside Riley Walz. We launched a Gmail-like view of Epstein's inbox last month. It got millions of page views, tons of really amazing requests to collaborate on making more related data accessible, and even new Yahoo emails that no one else has allowed the public to see. Yesterday's DOJ drop resulted in this very spontaneous rag-tag team of friends coming to my place in SF and each making their own app in the "Jmail" Suite. Riley and I are pretty shocked by how versatile this parody style is for visualizing Epstein's 20 year digital footprint. It's been a ton of fun and we're working hard to polish each view here.
- Retr0id 10mo ago
  What benefit do you get from the splat-ification? Surely any relevant details are visible in the original jpegs?
fredrickd 10mo ago
the J suite of products grows larger
gnabgib 10mo ago
Discussion (144 points, 29 days ago, 11 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118
- dvrp 10mo ago
  I saw, but the project has changed since then. There's now Google Photos, improvements to Drive, Jemini (LLM that can assist when understanding the files), and JFlights for flight tracking. I sent an email to the hn email with more details!
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Last night we made a ton of new apps and we added "the Epstein" files which DOJ dropped yesterday. Also since that post we worked with Drop Site News + DDoSecrets to post new Yahoo emails that no one has let the public see yet.
- dang 10mo ago
  Despite the upvotes, that one only spent 8 minutes on HN's frontpage, so I think we can treat this repost as a non-dupe.
  - ffin 10mo ago
    Is data about how long links are on the front page available publicly anywhere?
    - dang 10mo ago
      There are a number of third party sites that do this, such as hnrankings.info: https://hnrankings.info/46339600/ https://hnrankings.info/46339600/ https://hnrankings.info/46004118/ https://hnrankings.info/46004118/
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anjel 10mo ago
Way better than the DOJ UI but a pity the photo captions got stripped away
- dvrp 10mo ago
  what photo captions? are you talking about OpenGraph metadata or something else that we can fix?
tacker2000 10mo ago
Incredible! Great work! One suggestion: please add previous/next navigation on the images, so that one doesnt have to open an image, close, open again.
- mastermedo 10mo ago
  ditto for email. Usually I open one email on the phone and slide left-right or right-left to navigate between adjacent emails.
aizk 10mo ago
Shoot I wish I would've have known there was a collab, would've loved to participate in this.
the_gipsy 10mo ago
The back button doesn't work
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  In which app? Photos, email, etc? Tested across each.
  - dvrp 10mo ago
    Also which platform? Mobile? I’ve noticed some burger menus failing on mobile.
throwawayhippa 10mo ago
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- GlumWoodpecker 10mo ago
  Way to miss the point entirely.
- noman-land 10mo ago
  Of course the perpetrators of child abuse would be adjacent to child abuse material. That's why the material needs to be indexed, to make sense of it and round up the rest of the perpetrators.
  - dvrp 10mo ago
    correct i can say that 90% of the work was in making sense of the data, indexing, processing, etc
- jibal 10mo ago
  Police and prosecutors have such a great time cataloguing criminals' activities--let's imply that they love crime.
muzani 10mo ago
I'm impressed. You guys cloned a whole suite of products in a short period of time that cost millions of dollars. Even the little bits of humor look costly. On the other hand, it's way more information than I expected. I can see why someone would hesitate to release them - there's a lot to sift through and it's likely even the government couldn't sift through all of them to make sure their friends weren't mentioned somewhere.
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Thanks! And it's a lot of info, yeah. ~90% of new data in yesterday's drop was photographs, which they redacted for us. The House Oversight Committee's giant drop in November had tons of data we still didn't take advantage of even after doing the original Jmail, like flight logs. For the Yahoo release, which is still ongoing, the folks at Drop Site News (see https://www.jmail.world/about https://www.jmail.world/about) are handling the manual redaction which has been very time consuming, even with tons of AI to help in the background.
  - dvrp 10mo ago
    Would be nice to explain at some point how we did the structuring of the destructured data. For now we’re focusing on fixing the bugs because we’re already seeing an insane wave of traffic so most of us are focused on keeping the site alive.
    - nsomaru 10mo ago
      Hey, I’d be interested in your thoughts on this, or the key ideas/research results you relied on:
      - lukeigel 10mo ago
        Yes! We used our friends at Reducto (https://reducto.ai/ https://reducto.ai/) for all document extraction and parsing (one of the best companies I've ever referred to YC ;) ) We did an initial parsing pass of all four DOJ document batches on Friday. This takes a raw PDF and returns chunks containing typed blocks—each with a type (Title, Text, Figure, etc.), bounding boxes, content, and confidence scores. For PDFs that were just scans of photographs (which was like 90% of new content in Friday's release), it gave in depth descriptions of those! You can type search terms like "door" at https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos to see what I mean. For apps like Jmail and JFlights we use their structured extraction endpoint instead—you define a schema (e.g. {from, to, subject, date, body} for emails or {departure_airport, arrival_airport, passengers[], date} for flights) and it pulls those fields directly into JSON. The JFlights example served as the best ad for Reducto and how doc parsing technology can speed up hours of journalistic investigations like this. See for yourself. Given this document https://www.jmail.world/drive/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_002031 https://www.jmail.world/drive/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_002031 It inferred and enriched multiple flight cards on JFlights (https://www.jmail.world/flights https://www.jmail.world/flights). I was really shook when I first saw this.
sweca 10mo ago
Jemini is such a nice touch
andrewinardeer 10mo ago
Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118
- dvrp 10mo ago
  just link dupe, but not content dupe read rest of the thread with more context on why
ok123456 10mo ago
https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026632?email=2461 https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026632?email=... Nice using self-emails as a knowledge base.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  lol
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rynn 10mo ago
Where did you get all the data? The justice.gov site didn’t have a mass download option that I could find.
- slazien 10mo ago
  https://www.jmail.world/about https://www.jmail.world/about "We compiled these Epstein estate emails from the House Oversight Committee release by converting the PDFs to structured text with an LLM" and: "Data Sources Gmail emails: House Oversight Committee Yahoo emails: DDoSecrets (brought to us by Drop Site News) Technology Document parsing and extraction powered by reducto"
  - dvrp 10mo ago
    Yes, also many were PPM images (or encoded as such) in PDFs and then I used (cheap/light) multimodal LLMs to classify documents from photos. It was surprisingly cheap: <$1 for a few thousand PDFs / Images.
amarant 10mo ago
How complete is the material? I've seen "experts" in Swedish news paper DN claim so much is censored it looks like a cover up. Has that been your impression too?
- medler 10mo ago
  Yes, it has been redacted far in excess of what the law allows, and the material is a tiny fraction of what the administration was required by law to release by this date
  - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
    Images were also planted that were not part of the files.
    - epistasis 10mo ago
      Planted by whom? That were not part of the files? That seems dubious at best. What is your source? It doesn't even make sense.
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      - dboreham 10mo ago
        Makes sense if you are a criminal.
      - 9dev 10mo ago
        There is a picture of Bill Clinton with Michael Jackson and Diana Ross that was just publicly available before: https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DSfEKJslM1H https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DSfEKJslM1H It doesn't belong into the Epstein Files, and doesn't need to be censored either, but the way it is framed in the DoJ release implies guilt where there is none.
kevin_thibedeau 10mo ago
Wonder how much that Clinton in a blue dress painting will go for.
sieep 10mo ago
Keep up the good work boys this is great stuff and is actually a pretty intuitive way to view the files, ive been sharing it for weeks now.
novoreorx 10mo ago
.world domain is a perfectly fit for this project, love to see more power brokers' profile joining this Jmail world
randall 10mo ago
this is amazing
umrashrf 10mo ago
That's definitely more than 15 GB of free space given by Google! Great work!
- dvrp 10mo ago
  gaussian splats alone are >500GBs lol (lot of bad quality ones though)
stocksinsmocks 10mo ago
Epstein had a subscription to Intelligence Squared. I feel like his whole character has come into focus for me. I would have put the “release” part in scare quotes as anything important has been redacted.
- gosub100 10mo ago
  He has tshirts and hats that say "mossad" on them
  - vnchr 10mo ago
    He ordered Israeli Defense Force pants off of Amazon apparently: https://www.jmail.world/thread/a767cba6e082256743a1069708a4a0f2?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/a767cba6e082256743a1069708a4a... He also ordered like 9 pairs of Crocs. He really liked the fuzzy lined Crocs: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=Crocs https://www.jmail.world/search?q=Crocs
    - stocksinsmocks 10mo ago
      You can’t be at the top of your child selling and money laundering game if your feet hurt.
TechDebtDevin 10mo ago
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InMice 10mo ago
You added icons and functionality to go to the beginning or end of search/inbox - Something that gmail just has never budged on having and always annoyed me! One of the first things I noticed. I must not be alone on this lol
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Thank you! The night before launching the original Jmail we had this hunch that jump-straight-to-end and "random page" would make the site work for people.
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lisbbb 10mo ago
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- gosub100 10mo ago
  So your claim is that someone is not a victim unless they are physically restrained or imprisoned? Can you give some examples of clear, definitive "legitimate victims" for contrast? Or are you insinuating that victim hood cannot be claimed unless they both come from the same income strata? Because otherwise the victims incentive to make money outweighs the possibility that the claim is true, that a wealthy person could in fact be a rapist?
- noduerme 10mo ago
  Transporting a minor for sex is illegal, regardless of whether they are considered of age in the jurisdiction they're being taken to. But besides that, you're saying he ran a blackmail operation, which seems likely. If the girls he pimped out were of legal age, that's a lot less leverage to blackmail his targets with, isn't it?
- tonyhart7 10mo ago
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- sgentle 10mo ago
  > What I am saying is that women make bad choices [...] and later regret it Yes, especially when those women are also children. One of the many reasons it's illegal to have sex with them and especially illegal to rent their bodies to your friends.
ned_roberts 10mo ago
Search for “LSJ”: Little Saint James, his island.
tonymet 10mo ago
Because of JDate it took a minute to realize JMail stood for Jeffrey
- userbinator 10mo ago
  You made me imagine an alternate universe where there is a Jeffrey programming language and the man is named Java Epstein.
20k 10mo ago
Great project, thanks for building it >i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump.. virignia spent hours at my house with him,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there Hooo boy
gosub100 10mo ago
Lots of Bill Gates involvement, and Sergey Brin.
dabluecaboose 10mo ago
Hey OP, just FYI "in lieu of" means "instead of". You probably meant to use "in light of"
- OJFord 10mo ago
  In the absence of
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B1FF_PSUVM 10mo ago
The flight log data + visualizer is interesting. Apparently not into crossing the equator ... P.S. feel like a private eye perusing the Amazon purchases. Nabokov and Nietzsche, oh my.
dash2 10mo ago
Even just setting aside the criminal/salacious side... it is just so interesting to see the connections between the elite. Steve Bannon photographed chilling with Noam Chomsky, such a surprise. God, and Robert Trivers is in there too, eeh.
- unreal6 10mo ago
  Bannon for a while was deeply ingrained in Hollywood. He still earns residuals on episodes of Seinfeld [0], and owns the film rights to Michael Lewis' Liars Poker (even supposedly writing a screenplay for it himself) [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Media_and_investing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Media_and_investi... [1] https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/steve-bannon-almost-teamed-moneyball-153916348.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/steve-ba...
  - sigwinch 10mo ago
    He was very close to Epstein. So far as I know, the only mention of Bannon at Turning Point USA was a call to release the 12-15 hours of taped media training he gave Epstein in 2019.
- el3ctron 10mo ago
  correct me please if i am missing something, but i read that Chomsky messages and looks like normal conversations, i mean, surely Epstein offered dark services for some guest, but not for all. Even that conversations looks very smart. Social media people moves in majority cases on morbid assumptions. Correct me please if i am missing something, but Chomsky is a great guy, an one of the greatest minds on earth.
  - tnecio 10mo ago
    Well you might like Chomsky's ideas but can you say that you really know him? If no, then how can you be so sure of his character? Even if he was not involved in any of Epstein's illegal activities, a leftist individual secretly hanging out with billionaires on a secluded island is not a good look to say the least
dash2 10mo ago
I would be interested to hear HN views on Richard Hanania's take on Epstein: https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-inverted-reality-of-epstein-conspiracy https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-inverted-reality-of-eps....
- thasFqr12 10mo ago
  Michael Tracey, who influenced Hanania, has been on a wild crusade against all Epstein victims and has tried to discredit them. He also avoids all intelligence connections. He never asks why Epstein got the job at Bear Stearns after leaving as a teacher at an expensive private school where William Barr's father was the headmaster. He never publishes material like the officially released birthday book entry from Eliot Wolk, trader at Bear Stearns, who confirmed that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, had an account at Bear Stearns and who teased Epstein about knowing teenage Ghislaine. So it is now officially confirmed that Epstein knew Robert and Ghislaine much earlier than previously known. And that he knew Robert in the Iran Contra years where Robert was dealing with Adnan Khashoggi. Tracey and Hanania are doing extremely poor journalistic work here by just focusing on the subset of Epstein victims that were over 18 and took money for the services. Not reporting at all on the intelligence connections seems suspect as well.
  - linhns 10mo ago
    Tracey seems to me to be a dishonest broker that is paid to promote anti-interventionist and related agenda
- kg 10mo ago
  "Especially since the MeToo era began, we’re too credulous about these things. So we have globs of money going to Epstein accusers and their lawyers, while nothing has ever been proved by the standards of the criminal justice system." Feels like someone with an axe to grind over MeToo turning Jeffrey Epstein of all people (???) into a martyr figure for their pet issue. I don't know why someone would feel compelled to defend him when he's not even alive to thank you for it. The idea that vast amounts of evidence and accusations exist yet nothing bad happened whatsoever is so wildly implausible that I can't grasp the mindset that would lead to openly publishing this perspective on Epstein. We found out from the most recent disclosures that people reported Epstein's inappropriate behavior to the FBI as early as 1996 and it wasn't investigated. One need only look at the amount of detail on his Wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#First_criminal_case_(2005%E2%80%932011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#First_criminal... ) to get a sense of why accusations against him are at least treated as credible. I totally get not finding this issue interesting or not caring about what he did to his victims, though I can't really empathize with that position, I understand it. But writing like Hanania's feels beyond the pale and unnecessary.
chirau 10mo ago
I clicked on attachments, then images. There are only 9 images in this whole release?
- dvrp 10mo ago
  weird — there’s thousands we should bugfix which url did you do that? can you help repro?
- tomtomtom777 10mo ago
  Instead of attachment, click on the second tab on top of the screen.
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Sorry about that. That Attachments tab shows you literal attachments found in the .eml files from the YAHOO dataset. We have released very few .emls that have attachments though. Expect more and more over time. Releasing YAHOO responsibly has been time consuming, and we're relying on Drop Site to tackle the redactions. See this post for context. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347272
mrinfinite 10mo ago
Its cool to see the mail. I now think he did die absolutely.. i had a suspicion he didnt.. but him and chomsky are fucking retarded.. feels like scrolling through twitter for horrible handles trying to sound smart and just lil bitches.. It makes me happier that my work is not very smart, but compared to these guys we arent that bad. I mean he was a geopolitical analyst. he may have been book smart in some sense cause he ordered liebniz at some pont.. but also just sounded like he was super high (probably wasnt)... very surprsing..
SilentM68 10mo ago
Hmm, no mention of BTC origins :(
gilfoyle_7 10mo ago
cool stuff boys
joymonger 10mo ago
This is incredible. How are you hosting all this? There's got to be considerable cost. Meanwhile, this is a genuinely great way to browse through all these files. Seriously impressive work.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  A lot of the files are hosted on Cloudflare so their $0 egress cost helps a lot. Especially given that so many of the files can be considered immutable assets, so we can configure aggressive caching. I know that Luke was working on stuff so as not to hit the database as much, but I was in the middle of a flight as that was happening so he'll have to come and provide more details.
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Thank you! The original site was on Railway and written in Pug! It crashed after Riley's tweet first went viral, then Riley did the heroic work of caching it all with Cloudflare after waking up to the site being down. After millions of unique visitors we racked up about $10 in costs. This time we switched to Next.js 16 + Vercel, used Cloudflare R2 for asset hosting, and used Neon as the db. R2 has free egress, and Vercel + Next is cheap if cached correctly. A special someone at Vercel gave us some tips on caching this one earlier today. We started by just using unstable_cache all over the place, and now we're migrating to ISR + full static pre-generation of as many pages as we can via generateStaticParams.
oneandonley1 10mo ago
serch for lolli or cp smh this guy was trash
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sans_souse 10mo ago
Anyone reading thru these and filtering out the promotion spam should consider taking a look thru. All his Amazon orders, which mostly are uninteresting sure, but scattered in there are books and eBook purchases dealing with some relevant and interesting-in-context topics. Also, interesting that this one got by him (unopened, unread, filtered from inbox) and the timing of it being near his final arrest (coincidence, but still) https://www.jmail.world/eml/0b80588f551f3d097695f1c9507b6572 https://www.jmail.world/eml/0b80588f551f3d097695f1c9507b6572
- dvrp 10mo ago
  We're also working to have a RAG system on Jemini so you can talk to the files. many of the files have been embedded into vectors thru turbopuffer.
  - koakuma-chan 10mo ago
    RAG doesn't have to be vectors. You can also make a regular full text search and it's gonna be RAG.
  - yakkomajuri 10mo ago
    Will do a shameless plug here of Skald: https://www.useskald.com/ https://www.useskald.com/ You'll get the whole RAG/context layer going in an hour. Can self-host too if you prefer. This is really impressive btw!
- johnisgood 10mo ago
  https://www.jmail.world/thread/94b742a9202b9782dcfef7d2aaed1d17?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/94b742a9202b9782dcfef7d2aaed1... and this https://www.jmail.world/thread/3a2c95682ec730d0062d6d1c5bcf5b67?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/3a2c95682ec730d0062d6d1c5bcf5.... Why did he order these, for who? He sure bought a lot of books. I found this that is not a book.
  - alkyon 10mo ago
    Not surprisingly Lolita was one of them: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=lolita https://www.jmail.world/search?q=lolita
GaryBluto 10mo ago
This is incredibly fascinating, not just because of who he was and the crimes he committed, but to see all this information on a specific person in one place is surreal.
rc_kas 10mo ago
cody rudland is a hero
- nervysnail 10mo ago
  Good heroance.
- koozmutz 10mo ago
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romanleeb 10mo ago
amazing
wilgertvelinga 10mo ago
Never trust anyone with a network setup like this... https://www.jmail.world/photos?photo=EFTA00002627-0 https://www.jmail.world/photos?photo=EFTA00002627-0
- KellyCriterion 10mo ago
  good catch! :-)
- grepfru_it 10mo ago
  I’ve seen that room before. I found it during an image search. Either this image you are sharing is not really epsteins or the image I found predated the catch of epsteins misdeeds. Or it’s AI/manipulation all the way down. Not sure what to think anymore
  - gruez 10mo ago
    >I’ve seen that room before. I found it during an image search. Source?
  - roryirvine 10mo ago
    I mean, it links to the source: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%201/EFTA00002627.pdf https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%201/EFTA000026... It looks pretty anonymous to me - a completely normal shoddy comms rack from the early-mid 2000s. The only real distinguishing feature is the fibre splice/breakout work taped to a bit of plywood at a funny angle, but even that's not so very out of the ordinary. Perhaps you're confusing it with any of a hundred thousand pictures of similar setups from that era?
    - grepfru_it 10mo ago
      Nah fam. But considering what Epstein is guilty of I’m not going back to search for it. I’m sure some image search website can help you out
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blauditore 10mo ago
The "Quora Digest" email killed me. Most of the mails read like fake ones from a video game. Maybe it's because most of them were written by an older generation who uses more classic letter-style writing.
wiether 10mo ago
As someone from the other side of the pond, I have to ask: what do people expect from all of this? It feels like this is a big smoke screen used by the current admin, first to be reelected, and now to distract people from what they are actually doing (like repeating they decreased drugs price by 600%, that they ended dozens of wars while dropping bombs daily all around the World...). It also looks like it allows everyone to peek in other's people lives, which feels quite disturbing. Sure, some of them were/are terrible people. But there's also the victims here. Furthermore, is it how justice should work? Share everything to the world, and let everyone make their own judgement based on what they see? Is there going to be some actual outcome? Both for the victims and for their offenders? Or is it just a show where everyone can see them as detective/judge? Just to add a bit more context: after years of trials, one of our former President finally went to jail for a few weeks. And now, they're invited by media all over the country so they can complain about how unfair it was, they published a book about it, sold in the tens of thousands, their son is the new TV's favorite... So I'm wondering: is it actual justice at work, or just a distraction while nothing change and nobody is actually held accountable?
- foundddit 10mo ago
  I think for the duration of this four year term, at the very least, nothing will happen. But there's a bit of hope (possibly cope) that if these people accept an election loss in 2028 and voters keep this anger going, people involved may be charged and imprisoned. History shows that it never happens in America and politicians always drop the "it's time for our nation to heal" line, but if the pendulum swings as far in the other direction as it did in the 2024 election, maybe things will be different. And the only hope of that happening is for people to stay pissed. One thing I will say is the outrage about this has lasted longer than I initially imagined. America has had a lot of "this controversy won't be forgotten!" stuff that nobody remembers 2 months later. In contrast, I feel like this has been steadily ramping up and maintaining some degree of inertia for 2 years. Will it burn out by 2028? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. It was washed out of the news by trans people playing sports and that was somehow the biggest issue in the world. 2028 will undoubtedly have some weird "problem" that we can't yet imagine.
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keepamovin 10mo ago
I understand the desire to make a suite of apps, and to create something cool for people to play with. Is your motivation to involve your creation with this topic specifically because you desire to expose people doing bad things, for the righteousness and morality of such? Also, do you feel it's more important that the information simply "gets out there" than there exist a coherent set of theses addressing questions like: 1) what was the nature, scope and purpose of the hustle Epstein was fronting/running? 2) Who unequivocally did bad things related to this? It's not an either or, but right now it appears the topic is data without conclusion. I think it would be interesting to target an AI at all the data and have it devise a set of theses with support. My feeling is the topic remains in a state of "100% data, 0% conclusions" - which appears to be a way to sate public curiosity while avoiding consequence.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  Jemini has access to the data to help make sense of it. We are working on better embeddings including image embeddings.
EnPissant 10mo ago
Is this like JDate but for email?
KellyCriterion 10mo ago
Wow, you cloned GMail completely within a short timefram? It looks more or less like the original Google product. You could make a spinoff after this Epstein wave is gone: Use the front end to build a commercially viable product! :-) Thanks for the ton of work!
wltr 10mo ago
Oh my, I think that’s the most impressive work I’ve seen here on the HN. Very well done! I hope the public would explore the whole thing pretty quickly. Personally, I afraid they, the files, were highly tampered with, so obviously a lot could be hidden. Yet, still, that’s an achievement we have this opportunity to explore the whole thing, I guess. So this project is impressive in many ways. I enjoyed exploring the interface, can’t believe that’s just a clone, not a real Google product!
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dostick 10mo ago
How can you post those emails and make a joke out of them - they have this footer that clearly states that if you are not a recipient you must delete the email immediately. Whole business world have this footer for a reason, for situations like this, so you can be sure your emails will not go public.
- throwfaraway135 10mo ago
  Although in principle I agree with the sentiment, sometimes for difficult illnesses we need to accept the side effects of the cure.
tianqi 10mo ago
This project is truly next level rather fascinating. Particularly intriguing is observing JEE's considerable interest regarding human intelligence and artificial intelligence, engaging in discussions on these matters with Chomsky and Marvin Minsky.
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vigneshtd 10mo ago
this is so f cool ;)
yakkomajuri 10mo ago
Complete side note but anyone else bothered by how they type? I guess email was being used much like texting here but still. Seems it's not just Epstein either. > Hi Jeffrey long time now hear don't sweat Patterson was with trump last week small dinner he really would make a good financial steward no agenda woody is busting his ass for him Rudy too wiki leaks tonight on Hillary stopped caring fed wants to raise I guess terrible luck brexit Deutschebank then probably some terror thing smart to be out of it best jonathan The above is from Jonathan Farkas
- eleventen 10mo ago
  Wild guess: some kind of elite status signaling. “no time for punctuation im so busy very important u understand”
- mr_mitm 10mo ago
  I believe this is from people using some speech-to-text mechanism who don't know or don't care that you can literally spell out punctuation.
- acuozzo 9mo ago
  > Complete side note but anyone else bothered by how they type? Every non-programmer I know north of 50 or so types like this. It's often the result of using TTS.
sprybear 10mo ago
impressive stuff
hn-acct 10mo ago
Why does this site work better on mobile than the real google suite. Funny stuff
- notyourwork 10mo ago
  Scale of the data behind the service likely contributes. This data is fixed. Therefore it’s easily indexed once into a cache or memory. Your Gmail is ever changing which results in some lost optimization without dramatic cost increase.
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Thank you! I tried to optimize scrolling through the photos the most. Avoided any virtualization library, used Cloudflare for image transformations and for caching, etc. The masonry layout and polish you see here is all https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=walz https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=walz though Specifically at https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos
sali0 10mo ago
Should have called it Blackmail
amelius 10mo ago
Is this the public release, or did you filter it down further?
Pikamander2 10mo ago
You might want to consider getting rid of the Google product logos to avoid a cease-and-desist.
vldszn 10mo ago
Wow, that’s impressive! Are you planning to open-source the project? =)
- lukeigel 10mo ago
  Yes we'd love to. Letting the dust settle first
  - vldszn 10mo ago
    Awesome. Looking forward to it :)
skilled 10mo ago
Not much to say other than that this is really impressive work. Thanks for putting it all together!
Metacelsus 10mo ago
"LIVE! Melinda Gates on How Empowering Women Changes the World" lol
1vuio0pswjnm7 10mo ago
Text-only, No Javascript: https://www.jmail.world/api/emails.json https://www.jmail.world/api/emails.json
FilosofumRex 10mo ago
with Epstein and ilk outed, the real question is who'll (or has) replace him? My money is on Jared Kushner, as the front runner. He has access via Trump, connected to Russian jew mafia via his dad, & trusted by Mossad.
epsters 10mo ago
Searched 'Ehud Barak' in Jmail and the results were disappointing. Which was odd because I recently read many interesting revelations about their relationship and Epstein's ties with Israel gleaned from emails between the two. The emails apparently revealed Epstein's vital role in forging security deals between Israel and the governments of Cote d'Ivore and Mongolia; Others showed Epstein offering to connect Putin with Ehud and trying to hatch a plot to replace Bashar-Al-Assad in Syria with another pro-Russian dictator - but one who would be pro-Israel also (it didn't pan out). And also emails showing Epstein setting up an introduction between Ehud Barak and Peter Thiel. Found none of this in the results. Turns out most of the above revelations came from Ehud Barak's own hacked email account which were recently leaked by Handala, purportedly a pro-palestinian hacking group. None of the this stuff was covered in any of the mainstream news- Not by NYT , BBC, CNN, nothing. Most of the journalistic coverage had been from DropSite News. And what did The Guardian decide at the time to focus on in it's featured story regarding Epstein? Noam Chomsky. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what Jeffrey Epstein was about and the role of the Governments and Media in all this. I don't believe the truth regarding Epstein will come from the 'Epstein Files', the US government, its allies or the mainstream western press. It will probably have to be from hackers, whistleblowers or the victims willing to break their confidentiality agreements. Or from any dead-mans-switches that the feds haven't manage to find and neutralize. https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking-jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-israeli-officials/ https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking... https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-leaked-emails-mongolia-security-deal https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-le... https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel
sans_souse 10mo ago
Site is down for me?
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worik 10mo ago
This is going to spin out of control for those desperate not to have their details released It was stupid to accept the gift of young women Stupid to promise to release the data Really stupid to partially release Unfathomably stupid to then try and pull some back The media smell blood in the water, this is going to be a feeding frenzy
whoamii 10mo ago
Can you add a “Trash” folder with the documents that have been unpublished?
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yoan9224 10mo ago
The cost optimization here is impressive - $10 for millions of visitors using Next.js + Vercel + Cloudflare R2 (free egress). I'm building an analytics SaaS with a similar stack and this validates our architecture choices. A few questions: 1. How are you handling ISR vs full static generation? You mentioned migrating to generateStaticParams - did you pre-generate all email pages or use on-demand ISR? 2. Did you hit any Vercel function limits with the email processing, or is everything cached aggressively enough that it doesn't matter? 3. R2's free egress is a game-changer - are you using Cloudflare's image transformations or handling resizing client-side? The caching strategy here is the real MVP. Most people underestimate how far good caching with Next.js can take you before you need Redis or more complex infrastructure.
sporkxrocket 10mo ago
Jeffery Epstein: heyy it looks like your diet program has worked Reid Hoffman: slow progress. planning to see you in August. Hope you're well.
yboris 10mo ago
Also related: https://epstein-files-browser.vercel.app/ https://epstein-files-browser.vercel.app/ - Epstein Files Browser - an infinite scroll through all the photos
LTL_FTC 10mo ago
Coincidence that this release happens on the weekend before Christmas when everyone is busy and less likely to notice?
smallhands 10mo ago
Where is Trump ?
snthpy 10mo ago
Some of these are wild. This one reads like him journaling on an acid trip: 24. questions = AI to the minus 1 If this was from 2025, I'd put his RADICAL BREAKTHROUGH down to spending too much time on ChatGPT. https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019871?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019871?view=i...
- snthpy 10mo ago
  In general, his emails read like something I've observed people doing IRL; they coax smart people into talking by saying ambiguous, clever sounding things (which are actually nonsense). The actually intelligent person will give them the benefit of doubt by association with their connections, thinking they must be intelligent to have such friends, and assume they misheard or something. Quite surprising how often nonsense like that passes muster. From the bits I've skimmed so far, he looks like a very successful hanger on that leveraged each connection into other ones.
- Aeroi 10mo ago
  I feel like this is in code, and we need to decipher it.
- dvaun 10mo ago
  This reads like notes taken on a presentation.
Flying_Fish 10mo ago
What technical skills and tools have you deployed during this collaboration that would prove useful for journalists with nontechnical backgrounds? As a freelance journalist, I have wasted time parsing through pdfs issued by governments or have wasted even more time analyzing and archiving social media ephemera. I would love to learn tech skills relevant to journalism, but don't know where to start.
bbjs 10mo ago
Please make the zip files availible for all three dataset 8's! The number of files on voidzilla's video is different than the number availible from all three on jmail. There is no meaningful way in jmail for me to contrast the files to see what has been removed or added. There is also no way to download all of them. While I appreciate what you have made, it isnt useful for what I want to do, which is contrast the three versions of dataset 8. It would be easier if you just made the zip files availible. No shade to jmail, its a neat tool that tons of people find useful, myself included, just not me in this one scenario.
bbjs 10mo ago
I know I already made a comment but I am now going through the Amazon list and noticing some inaccuracies. Not rly sure if you guys care bc the point is to expose the things he was buying but I scrolled all the way back, saw the same inflatable pool toy twice, clicked on them, and realized one email was asking him if his purchase was good and the second was asking him to answer questions for other amazon buyers about the product. Neither actually show when the item arrived (though the first one does) and he didn't actually purchase it twice. I wonder if other issues are in there? I also cant help but notice addresses in some. Did you check to make sure he was not sending any gifts to victims or did you just include them all?
JosefAlbers 10mo ago
Really cool!
ih8cupcakes 10mo ago
With the administration constantly wiping files and most likely also going back and releasing different versions of certain files do you plan on adding a "version history" feature to show the different versions of each file? A "trash bin" feature for Jmail and JDrive would also be pretty funny. Either way what you guys already created is impressive work!
yipikaye 9mo ago
Jacebook! Wow - just wow
Joel_LeBlanc 9mo ago
It's great that you're passionate about due diligence in evaluating digital assets! It can be tricky to sift through the noise and find reliable information. From my experience, I’ve found that using tools like DREA (Digital Real Estate Analyzer) can really streamline the process, making it easier to assess potential investments. It's all about doing your homework and asking the right questions, right? Happy to exchange insights if you want!

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lifestyleguru 10mo ago

Everytime I watch these private jets and helicopters I wonder why flying economy class has to be so miserable in terms of horizontal, vertical, and leg space.

nee1r 10mo ago

being able to search through the files when they're purposefully so obfuscated is great

dvrp 10mo ago

See also: - JPhotos: https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos - JDrive: https://www.jmail.world/drive https://www.jmail.world/drive - JAmazon: https://www.jmail.world/jamazon https://www.jmail.world/jamazon

jtfrench 10mo ago
No way. Next level.

dvrp 10mo ago

I participated on this project, but I'm not the main contributor. In fact, I'm working on running an ML model to get some nice gaussian splat visualizations of some of the relevant images based on the recent release by Apple's model: SHARP. It allows doing inference of a PLY point-cloud based on a single JPG image. Hopefully I can merge some UI for it soon, but I'm away from my main computer right now. EDIT: I'm going to text my friend Luke to comment and answer any questions about the project. EDIT2: I am also happy to expand on the technical details of the project once I get a stable internet connection.

lukeigel 10mo ago
Yes, thanks Diego! Really excited about this. I'm one of the co-creators of Jmail alongside Riley Walz. We launched a Gmail-like view of Epstein's inbox last month. It got millions of page views, tons of really amazing requests to collaborate on making more related data accessible, and even new Yahoo emails that no one else has allowed the public to see. Yesterday's DOJ drop resulted in this very spontaneous rag-tag team of friends coming to my place in SF and each making their own app in the "Jmail" Suite. Riley and I are pretty shocked by how versatile this parody style is for visualizing Epstein's 20 year digital footprint. It's been a ton of fun and we're working hard to polish each view here.
Retr0id 10mo ago
What benefit do you get from the splat-ification? Surely any relevant details are visible in the original jpegs?

fredrickd 10mo ago

the J suite of products grows larger

gnabgib 10mo ago

Discussion (144 points, 29 days ago, 11 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118

dvrp 10mo ago
I saw, but the project has changed since then. There's now Google Photos, improvements to Drive, Jemini (LLM that can assist when understanding the files), and JFlights for flight tracking. I sent an email to the hn email with more details!
lukeigel 10mo ago
Last night we made a ton of new apps and we added "the Epstein" files which DOJ dropped yesterday. Also since that post we worked with Drop Site News + DDoSecrets to post new Yahoo emails that no one has let the public see yet.
dang 10mo ago
Despite the upvotes, that one only spent 8 minutes on HN's frontpage, so I think we can treat this repost as a non-dupe.
- ffin 10mo ago
  Is data about how long links are on the front page available publicly anywhere?
  - dang 10mo ago
    There are a number of third party sites that do this, such as hnrankings.info: https://hnrankings.info/46339600/ https://hnrankings.info/46339600/ https://hnrankings.info/46004118/ https://hnrankings.info/46004118/

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anjel 10mo ago

Way better than the DOJ UI but a pity the photo captions got stripped away

dvrp 10mo ago
what photo captions? are you talking about OpenGraph metadata or something else that we can fix?

tacker2000 10mo ago

Incredible! Great work! One suggestion: please add previous/next navigation on the images, so that one doesnt have to open an image, close, open again.

mastermedo 10mo ago
ditto for email. Usually I open one email on the phone and slide left-right or right-left to navigate between adjacent emails.

aizk 10mo ago

Shoot I wish I would've have known there was a collab, would've loved to participate in this.

the_gipsy 10mo ago

The back button doesn't work

lukeigel 10mo ago
In which app? Photos, email, etc? Tested across each.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  Also which platform? Mobile? I’ve noticed some burger menus failing on mobile.

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GlumWoodpecker 10mo ago
Way to miss the point entirely.
noman-land 10mo ago
Of course the perpetrators of child abuse would be adjacent to child abuse material. That's why the material needs to be indexed, to make sense of it and round up the rest of the perpetrators.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  correct i can say that 90% of the work was in making sense of the data, indexing, processing, etc
jibal 10mo ago
Police and prosecutors have such a great time cataloguing criminals' activities--let's imply that they love crime.

muzani 10mo ago

I'm impressed. You guys cloned a whole suite of products in a short period of time that cost millions of dollars. Even the little bits of humor look costly. On the other hand, it's way more information than I expected. I can see why someone would hesitate to release them - there's a lot to sift through and it's likely even the government couldn't sift through all of them to make sure their friends weren't mentioned somewhere.

lukeigel 10mo ago
Thanks! And it's a lot of info, yeah. ~90% of new data in yesterday's drop was photographs, which they redacted for us. The House Oversight Committee's giant drop in November had tons of data we still didn't take advantage of even after doing the original Jmail, like flight logs. For the Yahoo release, which is still ongoing, the folks at Drop Site News (see https://www.jmail.world/about https://www.jmail.world/about) are handling the manual redaction which has been very time consuming, even with tons of AI to help in the background.
- dvrp 10mo ago
  Would be nice to explain at some point how we did the structuring of the destructured data. For now we’re focusing on fixing the bugs because we’re already seeing an insane wave of traffic so most of us are focused on keeping the site alive.
  - nsomaru 10mo ago
    Hey, I’d be interested in your thoughts on this, or the key ideas/research results you relied on:
    - lukeigel 10mo ago
      Yes! We used our friends at Reducto (https://reducto.ai/ https://reducto.ai/) for all document extraction and parsing (one of the best companies I've ever referred to YC ;) ) We did an initial parsing pass of all four DOJ document batches on Friday. This takes a raw PDF and returns chunks containing typed blocks—each with a type (Title, Text, Figure, etc.), bounding boxes, content, and confidence scores. For PDFs that were just scans of photographs (which was like 90% of new content in Friday's release), it gave in depth descriptions of those! You can type search terms like "door" at https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos to see what I mean. For apps like Jmail and JFlights we use their structured extraction endpoint instead—you define a schema (e.g. {from, to, subject, date, body} for emails or {departure_airport, arrival_airport, passengers[], date} for flights) and it pulls those fields directly into JSON. The JFlights example served as the best ad for Reducto and how doc parsing technology can speed up hours of journalistic investigations like this. See for yourself. Given this document https://www.jmail.world/drive/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_002031 https://www.jmail.world/drive/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_002031 It inferred and enriched multiple flight cards on JFlights (https://www.jmail.world/flights https://www.jmail.world/flights). I was really shook when I first saw this.

sweca 10mo ago

Jemini is such a nice touch

andrewinardeer 10mo ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118

dvrp 10mo ago
just link dupe, but not content dupe read rest of the thread with more context on why

ok123456 10mo ago

https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026632?email=2461 https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026632?email=... Nice using self-emails as a knowledge base.

dvrp 10mo ago
lol

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rynn 10mo ago

Where did you get all the data? The justice.gov site didn’t have a mass download option that I could find.

slazien 10mo ago
https://www.jmail.world/about https://www.jmail.world/about "We compiled these Epstein estate emails from the House Oversight Committee release by converting the PDFs to structured text with an LLM" and: "Data Sources Gmail emails: House Oversight Committee Yahoo emails: DDoSecrets (brought to us by Drop Site News) Technology Document parsing and extraction powered by reducto"
- dvrp 10mo ago
  Yes, also many were PPM images (or encoded as such) in PDFs and then I used (cheap/light) multimodal LLMs to classify documents from photos. It was surprisingly cheap: <$1 for a few thousand PDFs / Images.

amarant 10mo ago

How complete is the material? I've seen "experts" in Swedish news paper DN claim so much is censored it looks like a cover up. Has that been your impression too?

medler 10mo ago
Yes, it has been redacted far in excess of what the law allows, and the material is a tiny fraction of what the administration was required by law to release by this date
- wahnfrieden 10mo ago
  Images were also planted that were not part of the files.
  - epistasis 10mo ago
    Planted by whom? That were not part of the files? That seems dubious at best. What is your source? It doesn't even make sense.
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    - dboreham 10mo ago
      Makes sense if you are a criminal.
    - 9dev 10mo ago
      There is a picture of Bill Clinton with Michael Jackson and Diana Ross that was just publicly available before: https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DSfEKJslM1H https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DSfEKJslM1H It doesn't belong into the Epstein Files, and doesn't need to be censored either, but the way it is framed in the DoJ release implies guilt where there is none.

kevin_thibedeau 10mo ago

Wonder how much that Clinton in a blue dress painting will go for.

sieep 10mo ago

Keep up the good work boys this is great stuff and is actually a pretty intuitive way to view the files, ive been sharing it for weeks now.

novoreorx 10mo ago

.world domain is a perfectly fit for this project, love to see more power brokers' profile joining this Jmail world

randall 10mo ago

this is amazing

umrashrf 10mo ago

That's definitely more than 15 GB of free space given by Google! Great work!

dvrp 10mo ago
gaussian splats alone are >500GBs lol (lot of bad quality ones though)

stocksinsmocks 10mo ago

Epstein had a subscription to Intelligence Squared. I feel like his whole character has come into focus for me. I would have put the “release” part in scare quotes as anything important has been redacted.

gosub100 10mo ago
He has tshirts and hats that say "mossad" on them
- vnchr 10mo ago
  He ordered Israeli Defense Force pants off of Amazon apparently: https://www.jmail.world/thread/a767cba6e082256743a1069708a4a0f2?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/a767cba6e082256743a1069708a4a... He also ordered like 9 pairs of Crocs. He really liked the fuzzy lined Crocs: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=Crocs https://www.jmail.world/search?q=Crocs
  - stocksinsmocks 10mo ago
    You can’t be at the top of your child selling and money laundering game if your feet hurt.

TechDebtDevin 10mo ago

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InMice 10mo ago

You added icons and functionality to go to the beginning or end of search/inbox - Something that gmail just has never budged on having and always annoyed me! One of the first things I noticed. I must not be alone on this lol

lukeigel 10mo ago
Thank you! The night before launching the original Jmail we had this hunch that jump-straight-to-end and "random page" would make the site work for people.

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gosub100 10mo ago
So your claim is that someone is not a victim unless they are physically restrained or imprisoned? Can you give some examples of clear, definitive "legitimate victims" for contrast? Or are you insinuating that victim hood cannot be claimed unless they both come from the same income strata? Because otherwise the victims incentive to make money outweighs the possibility that the claim is true, that a wealthy person could in fact be a rapist?
noduerme 10mo ago
Transporting a minor for sex is illegal, regardless of whether they are considered of age in the jurisdiction they're being taken to. But besides that, you're saying he ran a blackmail operation, which seems likely. If the girls he pimped out were of legal age, that's a lot less leverage to blackmail his targets with, isn't it?
tonyhart7 10mo ago
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sgentle 10mo ago
> What I am saying is that women make bad choices [...] and later regret it Yes, especially when those women are also children. One of the many reasons it's illegal to have sex with them and especially illegal to rent their bodies to your friends.

ned_roberts 10mo ago

Search for “LSJ”: Little Saint James, his island.

tonymet 10mo ago

Because of JDate it took a minute to realize JMail stood for Jeffrey

userbinator 10mo ago
You made me imagine an alternate universe where there is a Jeffrey programming language and the man is named Java Epstein.

20k 10mo ago

Great project, thanks for building it >i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump.. virignia spent hours at my house with him,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there Hooo boy

gosub100 10mo ago

Lots of Bill Gates involvement, and Sergey Brin.

dabluecaboose 10mo ago

Hey OP, just FYI "in lieu of" means "instead of". You probably meant to use "in light of"

OJFord 10mo ago
In the absence of
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B1FF_PSUVM 10mo ago

The flight log data + visualizer is interesting. Apparently not into crossing the equator ... P.S. feel like a private eye perusing the Amazon purchases. Nabokov and Nietzsche, oh my.

dash2 10mo ago

Even just setting aside the criminal/salacious side... it is just so interesting to see the connections between the elite. Steve Bannon photographed chilling with Noam Chomsky, such a surprise. God, and Robert Trivers is in there too, eeh.

unreal6 10mo ago
Bannon for a while was deeply ingrained in Hollywood. He still earns residuals on episodes of Seinfeld [0], and owns the film rights to Michael Lewis' Liars Poker (even supposedly writing a screenplay for it himself) [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Media_and_investing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Media_and_investi... [1] https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/steve-bannon-almost-teamed-moneyball-153916348.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/steve-ba...
- sigwinch 10mo ago
  He was very close to Epstein. So far as I know, the only mention of Bannon at Turning Point USA was a call to release the 12-15 hours of taped media training he gave Epstein in 2019.
el3ctron 10mo ago
correct me please if i am missing something, but i read that Chomsky messages and looks like normal conversations, i mean, surely Epstein offered dark services for some guest, but not for all. Even that conversations looks very smart. Social media people moves in majority cases on morbid assumptions. Correct me please if i am missing something, but Chomsky is a great guy, an one of the greatest minds on earth.
- tnecio 10mo ago
  Well you might like Chomsky's ideas but can you say that you really know him? If no, then how can you be so sure of his character? Even if he was not involved in any of Epstein's illegal activities, a leftist individual secretly hanging out with billionaires on a secluded island is not a good look to say the least

dash2 10mo ago

I would be interested to hear HN views on Richard Hanania's take on Epstein: https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-inverted-reality-of-epstein-conspiracy https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-inverted-reality-of-eps....

thasFqr12 10mo ago
Michael Tracey, who influenced Hanania, has been on a wild crusade against all Epstein victims and has tried to discredit them. He also avoids all intelligence connections. He never asks why Epstein got the job at Bear Stearns after leaving as a teacher at an expensive private school where William Barr's father was the headmaster. He never publishes material like the officially released birthday book entry from Eliot Wolk, trader at Bear Stearns, who confirmed that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, had an account at Bear Stearns and who teased Epstein about knowing teenage Ghislaine. So it is now officially confirmed that Epstein knew Robert and Ghislaine much earlier than previously known. And that he knew Robert in the Iran Contra years where Robert was dealing with Adnan Khashoggi. Tracey and Hanania are doing extremely poor journalistic work here by just focusing on the subset of Epstein victims that were over 18 and took money for the services. Not reporting at all on the intelligence connections seems suspect as well.
- linhns 10mo ago
  Tracey seems to me to be a dishonest broker that is paid to promote anti-interventionist and related agenda
kg 10mo ago
"Especially since the MeToo era began, we’re too credulous about these things. So we have globs of money going to Epstein accusers and their lawyers, while nothing has ever been proved by the standards of the criminal justice system." Feels like someone with an axe to grind over MeToo turning Jeffrey Epstein of all people (???) into a martyr figure for their pet issue. I don't know why someone would feel compelled to defend him when he's not even alive to thank you for it. The idea that vast amounts of evidence and accusations exist yet nothing bad happened whatsoever is so wildly implausible that I can't grasp the mindset that would lead to openly publishing this perspective on Epstein. We found out from the most recent disclosures that people reported Epstein's inappropriate behavior to the FBI as early as 1996 and it wasn't investigated. One need only look at the amount of detail on his Wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#First_criminal_case_(2005%E2%80%932011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#First_criminal... ) to get a sense of why accusations against him are at least treated as credible. I totally get not finding this issue interesting or not caring about what he did to his victims, though I can't really empathize with that position, I understand it. But writing like Hanania's feels beyond the pale and unnecessary.

chirau 10mo ago

I clicked on attachments, then images. There are only 9 images in this whole release?

dvrp 10mo ago
weird — there’s thousands we should bugfix which url did you do that? can you help repro?
tomtomtom777 10mo ago
Instead of attachment, click on the second tab on top of the screen.
lukeigel 10mo ago
Sorry about that. That Attachments tab shows you literal attachments found in the .eml files from the YAHOO dataset. We have released very few .emls that have attachments though. Expect more and more over time. Releasing YAHOO responsibly has been time consuming, and we're relying on Drop Site to tackle the redactions. See this post for context. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347272

mrinfinite 10mo ago

Its cool to see the mail. I now think he did die absolutely.. i had a suspicion he didnt.. but him and chomsky are fucking retarded.. feels like scrolling through twitter for horrible handles trying to sound smart and just lil bitches.. It makes me happier that my work is not very smart, but compared to these guys we arent that bad. I mean he was a geopolitical analyst. he may have been book smart in some sense cause he ordered liebniz at some pont.. but also just sounded like he was super high (probably wasnt)... very surprsing..

SilentM68 10mo ago

Hmm, no mention of BTC origins :(

gilfoyle_7 10mo ago

cool stuff boys

joymonger 10mo ago

This is incredible. How are you hosting all this? There's got to be considerable cost. Meanwhile, this is a genuinely great way to browse through all these files. Seriously impressive work.

dvrp 10mo ago
A lot of the files are hosted on Cloudflare so their $0 egress cost helps a lot. Especially given that so many of the files can be considered immutable assets, so we can configure aggressive caching. I know that Luke was working on stuff so as not to hit the database as much, but I was in the middle of a flight as that was happening so he'll have to come and provide more details.
lukeigel 10mo ago
Thank you! The original site was on Railway and written in Pug! It crashed after Riley's tweet first went viral, then Riley did the heroic work of caching it all with Cloudflare after waking up to the site being down. After millions of unique visitors we racked up about $10 in costs. This time we switched to Next.js 16 + Vercel, used Cloudflare R2 for asset hosting, and used Neon as the db. R2 has free egress, and Vercel + Next is cheap if cached correctly. A special someone at Vercel gave us some tips on caching this one earlier today. We started by just using unstable_cache all over the place, and now we're migrating to ISR + full static pre-generation of as many pages as we can via generateStaticParams.

oneandonley1 10mo ago

serch for lolli or cp smh this guy was trash

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sans_souse 10mo ago

Anyone reading thru these and filtering out the promotion spam should consider taking a look thru. All his Amazon orders, which mostly are uninteresting sure, but scattered in there are books and eBook purchases dealing with some relevant and interesting-in-context topics. Also, interesting that this one got by him (unopened, unread, filtered from inbox) and the timing of it being near his final arrest (coincidence, but still) https://www.jmail.world/eml/0b80588f551f3d097695f1c9507b6572 https://www.jmail.world/eml/0b80588f551f3d097695f1c9507b6572

dvrp 10mo ago
We're also working to have a RAG system on Jemini so you can talk to the files. many of the files have been embedded into vectors thru turbopuffer.
- koakuma-chan 10mo ago
  RAG doesn't have to be vectors. You can also make a regular full text search and it's gonna be RAG.
- yakkomajuri 10mo ago
  Will do a shameless plug here of Skald: https://www.useskald.com/ https://www.useskald.com/ You'll get the whole RAG/context layer going in an hour. Can self-host too if you prefer. This is really impressive btw!
johnisgood 10mo ago
https://www.jmail.world/thread/94b742a9202b9782dcfef7d2aaed1d17?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/94b742a9202b9782dcfef7d2aaed1... and this https://www.jmail.world/thread/3a2c95682ec730d0062d6d1c5bcf5b67?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/3a2c95682ec730d0062d6d1c5bcf5.... Why did he order these, for who? He sure bought a lot of books. I found this that is not a book.
- alkyon 10mo ago
  Not surprisingly Lolita was one of them: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=lolita https://www.jmail.world/search?q=lolita

GaryBluto 10mo ago

This is incredibly fascinating, not just because of who he was and the crimes he committed, but to see all this information on a specific person in one place is surreal.

rc_kas 10mo ago

cody rudland is a hero

nervysnail 10mo ago
Good heroance.
koozmutz 10mo ago
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romanleeb 10mo ago

amazing

wilgertvelinga 10mo ago

Never trust anyone with a network setup like this... https://www.jmail.world/photos?photo=EFTA00002627-0 https://www.jmail.world/photos?photo=EFTA00002627-0

KellyCriterion 10mo ago
good catch! :-)
grepfru_it 10mo ago
I’ve seen that room before. I found it during an image search. Either this image you are sharing is not really epsteins or the image I found predated the catch of epsteins misdeeds. Or it’s AI/manipulation all the way down. Not sure what to think anymore
- gruez 10mo ago
  >I’ve seen that room before. I found it during an image search. Source?
- roryirvine 10mo ago
  I mean, it links to the source: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%201/EFTA00002627.pdf https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%201/EFTA000026... It looks pretty anonymous to me - a completely normal shoddy comms rack from the early-mid 2000s. The only real distinguishing feature is the fibre splice/breakout work taped to a bit of plywood at a funny angle, but even that's not so very out of the ordinary. Perhaps you're confusing it with any of a hundred thousand pictures of similar setups from that era?
  - grepfru_it 10mo ago
    Nah fam. But considering what Epstein is guilty of I’m not going back to search for it. I’m sure some image search website can help you out
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blauditore 10mo ago

The "Quora Digest" email killed me. Most of the mails read like fake ones from a video game. Maybe it's because most of them were written by an older generation who uses more classic letter-style writing.

wiether 10mo ago

As someone from the other side of the pond, I have to ask: what do people expect from all of this? It feels like this is a big smoke screen used by the current admin, first to be reelected, and now to distract people from what they are actually doing (like repeating they decreased drugs price by 600%, that they ended dozens of wars while dropping bombs daily all around the World...). It also looks like it allows everyone to peek in other's people lives, which feels quite disturbing. Sure, some of them were/are terrible people. But there's also the victims here. Furthermore, is it how justice should work? Share everything to the world, and let everyone make their own judgement based on what they see? Is there going to be some actual outcome? Both for the victims and for their offenders? Or is it just a show where everyone can see them as detective/judge? Just to add a bit more context: after years of trials, one of our former President finally went to jail for a few weeks. And now, they're invited by media all over the country so they can complain about how unfair it was, they published a book about it, sold in the tens of thousands, their son is the new TV's favorite... So I'm wondering: is it actual justice at work, or just a distraction while nothing change and nobody is actually held accountable?

foundddit 10mo ago
I think for the duration of this four year term, at the very least, nothing will happen. But there's a bit of hope (possibly cope) that if these people accept an election loss in 2028 and voters keep this anger going, people involved may be charged and imprisoned. History shows that it never happens in America and politicians always drop the "it's time for our nation to heal" line, but if the pendulum swings as far in the other direction as it did in the 2024 election, maybe things will be different. And the only hope of that happening is for people to stay pissed. One thing I will say is the outrage about this has lasted longer than I initially imagined. America has had a lot of "this controversy won't be forgotten!" stuff that nobody remembers 2 months later. In contrast, I feel like this has been steadily ramping up and maintaining some degree of inertia for 2 years. Will it burn out by 2028? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. It was washed out of the news by trans people playing sports and that was somehow the biggest issue in the world. 2028 will undoubtedly have some weird "problem" that we can't yet imagine.
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keepamovin 10mo ago

I understand the desire to make a suite of apps, and to create something cool for people to play with. Is your motivation to involve your creation with this topic specifically because you desire to expose people doing bad things, for the righteousness and morality of such? Also, do you feel it's more important that the information simply "gets out there" than there exist a coherent set of theses addressing questions like: 1) what was the nature, scope and purpose of the hustle Epstein was fronting/running? 2) Who unequivocally did bad things related to this? It's not an either or, but right now it appears the topic is data without conclusion. I think it would be interesting to target an AI at all the data and have it devise a set of theses with support. My feeling is the topic remains in a state of "100% data, 0% conclusions" - which appears to be a way to sate public curiosity while avoiding consequence.

dvrp 10mo ago
Jemini has access to the data to help make sense of it. We are working on better embeddings including image embeddings.

EnPissant 10mo ago

Is this like JDate but for email?

KellyCriterion 10mo ago

Wow, you cloned GMail completely within a short timefram? It looks more or less like the original Google product. You could make a spinoff after this Epstein wave is gone: Use the front end to build a commercially viable product! :-) Thanks for the ton of work!

wltr 10mo ago

Oh my, I think that’s the most impressive work I’ve seen here on the HN. Very well done! I hope the public would explore the whole thing pretty quickly. Personally, I afraid they, the files, were highly tampered with, so obviously a lot could be hidden. Yet, still, that’s an achievement we have this opportunity to explore the whole thing, I guess. So this project is impressive in many ways. I enjoyed exploring the interface, can’t believe that’s just a clone, not a real Google product!

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dostick 10mo ago

How can you post those emails and make a joke out of them - they have this footer that clearly states that if you are not a recipient you must delete the email immediately. Whole business world have this footer for a reason, for situations like this, so you can be sure your emails will not go public.

throwfaraway135 10mo ago
Although in principle I agree with the sentiment, sometimes for difficult illnesses we need to accept the side effects of the cure.

tianqi 10mo ago

This project is truly next level rather fascinating. Particularly intriguing is observing JEE's considerable interest regarding human intelligence and artificial intelligence, engaging in discussions on these matters with Chomsky and Marvin Minsky.

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vigneshtd 10mo ago

this is so f cool ;)

yakkomajuri 10mo ago

Complete side note but anyone else bothered by how they type? I guess email was being used much like texting here but still. Seems it's not just Epstein either. > Hi Jeffrey long time now hear don't sweat Patterson was with trump last week small dinner he really would make a good financial steward no agenda woody is busting his ass for him Rudy too wiki leaks tonight on Hillary stopped caring fed wants to raise I guess terrible luck brexit Deutschebank then probably some terror thing smart to be out of it best jonathan The above is from Jonathan Farkas

eleventen 10mo ago
Wild guess: some kind of elite status signaling. “no time for punctuation im so busy very important u understand”
mr_mitm 10mo ago
I believe this is from people using some speech-to-text mechanism who don't know or don't care that you can literally spell out punctuation.
acuozzo 9mo ago
> Complete side note but anyone else bothered by how they type? Every non-programmer I know north of 50 or so types like this. It's often the result of using TTS.

sprybear 10mo ago

impressive stuff

hn-acct 10mo ago

Why does this site work better on mobile than the real google suite. Funny stuff

notyourwork 10mo ago
Scale of the data behind the service likely contributes. This data is fixed. Therefore it’s easily indexed once into a cache or memory. Your Gmail is ever changing which results in some lost optimization without dramatic cost increase.
lukeigel 10mo ago
Thank you! I tried to optimize scrolling through the photos the most. Avoided any virtualization library, used Cloudflare for image transformations and for caching, etc. The masonry layout and polish you see here is all https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=walz https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=walz though Specifically at https://www.jmail.world/photos https://www.jmail.world/photos

sali0 10mo ago

Should have called it Blackmail

amelius 10mo ago

Is this the public release, or did you filter it down further?

Pikamander2 10mo ago

You might want to consider getting rid of the Google product logos to avoid a cease-and-desist.

vldszn 10mo ago

Wow, that’s impressive! Are you planning to open-source the project? =)

lukeigel 10mo ago
Yes we'd love to. Letting the dust settle first
- vldszn 10mo ago
  Awesome. Looking forward to it :)

skilled 10mo ago

Not much to say other than that this is really impressive work. Thanks for putting it all together!

Metacelsus 10mo ago

"LIVE! Melinda Gates on How Empowering Women Changes the World" lol

1vuio0pswjnm7 10mo ago

Text-only, No Javascript: https://www.jmail.world/api/emails.json https://www.jmail.world/api/emails.json

FilosofumRex 10mo ago

with Epstein and ilk outed, the real question is who'll (or has) replace him? My money is on Jared Kushner, as the front runner. He has access via Trump, connected to Russian jew mafia via his dad, & trusted by Mossad.

epsters 10mo ago

Searched 'Ehud Barak' in Jmail and the results were disappointing. Which was odd because I recently read many interesting revelations about their relationship and Epstein's ties with Israel gleaned from emails between the two. The emails apparently revealed Epstein's vital role in forging security deals between Israel and the governments of Cote d'Ivore and Mongolia; Others showed Epstein offering to connect Putin with Ehud and trying to hatch a plot to replace Bashar-Al-Assad in Syria with another pro-Russian dictator - but one who would be pro-Israel also (it didn't pan out). And also emails showing Epstein setting up an introduction between Ehud Barak and Peter Thiel. Found none of this in the results. Turns out most of the above revelations came from Ehud Barak's own hacked email account which were recently leaked by Handala, purportedly a pro-palestinian hacking group. None of the this stuff was covered in any of the mainstream news- Not by NYT , BBC, CNN, nothing. Most of the journalistic coverage had been from DropSite News. And what did The Guardian decide at the time to focus on in it's featured story regarding Epstein? Noam Chomsky. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what Jeffrey Epstein was about and the role of the Governments and Media in all this. I don't believe the truth regarding Epstein will come from the 'Epstein Files', the US government, its allies or the mainstream western press. It will probably have to be from hackers, whistleblowers or the victims willing to break their confidentiality agreements. Or from any dead-mans-switches that the feds haven't manage to find and neutralize. https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking-jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-israeli-officials/ https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking... https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-leaked-emails-mongolia-security-deal https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-le... https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

sans_souse 10mo ago

Site is down for me?

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worik 10mo ago

This is going to spin out of control for those desperate not to have their details released It was stupid to accept the gift of young women Stupid to promise to release the data Really stupid to partially release Unfathomably stupid to then try and pull some back The media smell blood in the water, this is going to be a feeding frenzy

whoamii 10mo ago

Can you add a “Trash” folder with the documents that have been unpublished?

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yoan9224 10mo ago

The cost optimization here is impressive - $10 for millions of visitors using Next.js + Vercel + Cloudflare R2 (free egress). I'm building an analytics SaaS with a similar stack and this validates our architecture choices. A few questions: 1. How are you handling ISR vs full static generation? You mentioned migrating to generateStaticParams - did you pre-generate all email pages or use on-demand ISR? 2. Did you hit any Vercel function limits with the email processing, or is everything cached aggressively enough that it doesn't matter? 3. R2's free egress is a game-changer - are you using Cloudflare's image transformations or handling resizing client-side? The caching strategy here is the real MVP. Most people underestimate how far good caching with Next.js can take you before you need Redis or more complex infrastructure.

sporkxrocket 10mo ago

Jeffery Epstein: heyy it looks like your diet program has worked Reid Hoffman: slow progress. planning to see you in August. Hope you're well.

yboris 10mo ago

Also related: https://epstein-files-browser.vercel.app/ https://epstein-files-browser.vercel.app/ - Epstein Files Browser - an infinite scroll through all the photos

LTL_FTC 10mo ago

Coincidence that this release happens on the weekend before Christmas when everyone is busy and less likely to notice?

smallhands 10mo ago

Where is Trump ?

snthpy 10mo ago

Some of these are wild. This one reads like him journaling on an acid trip: 24. questions = AI to the minus 1 If this was from 2025, I'd put his RADICAL BREAKTHROUGH down to spending too much time on ChatGPT. https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019871?view=inbox https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019871?view=i...

snthpy 10mo ago
In general, his emails read like something I've observed people doing IRL; they coax smart people into talking by saying ambiguous, clever sounding things (which are actually nonsense). The actually intelligent person will give them the benefit of doubt by association with their connections, thinking they must be intelligent to have such friends, and assume they misheard or something. Quite surprising how often nonsense like that passes muster. From the bits I've skimmed so far, he looks like a very successful hanger on that leveraged each connection into other ones.
Aeroi 10mo ago
I feel like this is in code, and we need to decipher it.
dvaun 10mo ago
This reads like notes taken on a presentation.

Flying_Fish 10mo ago

What technical skills and tools have you deployed during this collaboration that would prove useful for journalists with nontechnical backgrounds? As a freelance journalist, I have wasted time parsing through pdfs issued by governments or have wasted even more time analyzing and archiving social media ephemera. I would love to learn tech skills relevant to journalism, but don't know where to start.

bbjs 10mo ago

Please make the zip files availible for all three dataset 8's! The number of files on voidzilla's video is different than the number availible from all three on jmail. There is no meaningful way in jmail for me to contrast the files to see what has been removed or added. There is also no way to download all of them. While I appreciate what you have made, it isnt useful for what I want to do, which is contrast the three versions of dataset 8. It would be easier if you just made the zip files availible. No shade to jmail, its a neat tool that tons of people find useful, myself included, just not me in this one scenario.

bbjs 10mo ago

I know I already made a comment but I am now going through the Amazon list and noticing some inaccuracies. Not rly sure if you guys care bc the point is to expose the things he was buying but I scrolled all the way back, saw the same inflatable pool toy twice, clicked on them, and realized one email was asking him if his purchase was good and the second was asking him to answer questions for other amazon buyers about the product. Neither actually show when the item arrived (though the first one does) and he didn't actually purchase it twice. I wonder if other issues are in there? I also cant help but notice addresses in some. Did you check to make sure he was not sending any gifts to victims or did you just include them all?

JosefAlbers 10mo ago

Really cool!

ih8cupcakes 10mo ago

With the administration constantly wiping files and most likely also going back and releasing different versions of certain files do you plan on adding a "version history" feature to show the different versions of each file? A "trash bin" feature for Jmail and JDrive would also be pretty funny. Either way what you guys already created is impressive work!

yipikaye 9mo ago

Jacebook! Wow - just wow

Joel_LeBlanc 9mo ago

It's great that you're passionate about due diligence in evaluating digital assets! It can be tricky to sift through the noise and find reliable information. From my experience, I’ve found that using tools like DREA (Digital Real Estate Analyzer) can really streamline the process, making it easier to assess potential investments. It's all about doing your homework and asking the right questions, right? Happy to exchange insights if you want!