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ACR needs to die. It’s an absurd abuse of the privileged position that a TV has - a gross violation of privacy just to make a few bucks. It should be absolutely
by nneonneo 10mo ago
ACR needs to die. It’s an absurd abuse of the privileged position that a TV has - a gross violation of privacy just to make a few bucks. It should be absolutely nobody’s business to know what you watch except your own; the motivation behind the VPPA was to kill exactly this type of abuse.
The greatest irony is that HDCP goes to great lengths to try and prevent people from screenshotting copyrighted content, and here we have the smart TVs at the end just scraping the content willy-nilly. If someone manages to figure out how to use ACR to break DRM, maybe the MPAA will be motivated to kill ACR :)
- sailfast 10mo agoThis is an excellent idea.
- DrewADesign 10mo agoNext stop: auto manufacturers and location data.
- patrickk 10mo agoThe ship has sailed on that one. The telematics from the car can also be sent back to the mothership, i.e. if you’re driving like a lunatic, pulling donuts, harsh acceleration and so on.
- hsbauauvhabzb 10mo agoWhich is even more absurd. You can watch illegal things on TV too. Both are a gross breach of monopolistic power.
- aziaziazi 10mo agoyou can directly hurt more people with a car than a TV though
- hsbauauvhabzb 10mo agoA car phoning your analytics home is not an immediate preventative measure though. It’s a grotesque overstep.
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoOn flip side not having telematics on your most expensive assets (house, car and health) is negligence.
- sallveburrpi 10mo agoAre you saying that not monitoring e.g. heart rate constantly through some electronic device that sends the data somewhere (let’s assume somewhere under my control) is negligence?
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoGoing to doctors office is telemetry too, but very sparse. Smart watches are ubiquitous. Lives have been saved.
- DrewADesign 10mo agoFrom Wikipedia: “Telemetry is the in situ collection of measurements or other data at remote points and their automatic transmission to receiving equipment (telecommunication) for monitoring.” There is nothing “tele” about going to the doctor, and nothing automatic about the information they gather. You’re conflating telemetry and simple examination or observation. Most types of examination are not telemetry, and many types of telemetry are not as benign as simple observation/examination. There is telemetry on my car but I can’t access the data. It’s not for my benefit— it’s for Jeep’s benefit. I don’t need it and I don’t want it.
- MereInterest 10mo agoThere’s a difference between the owner having telemetry on their own car, and the manufacturer having telemetry on the cars they’ve sold. One is taking care of your assets, and the other is spying on customers.
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoTell me, how does Tesla spy on customers? Do pass mcdonalds more often when on FSD?
- DrewADesign 10mo agoLaws can change, but I’m not hopeful, tbh. Digital privacy problems are just too abstract to viscerally anger most people. That may change as people that grew up in surveillance capitalism mature, but being so used to invasive data grabs might replace ignorant complacency with aware complacency.
- aDyslecticCrow 10mo agoIt's faar worse. Automotive manufacturers and live IP camera feed. (See also tesla motors)
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoTesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla
- zie 10mo agoMostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.
- consp 10mo agoIsn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
- zie 10mo agoMaybe? But good luck proving it. Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth.... For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
- dzhiurgis 10mo agoSource? Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.
- aDyslecticCrow 10mo agoI point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".
- amelius 10mo agoNext stop google analytics.
- doctorpangloss 10mo agoanother POV is, stop using a TV
- thomasahle 10mo agoACR — Automatic Content Recognition: tech in some smart TVs/apps that identifies what’s on-screen (often via audio/video “fingerprints”) and can report viewing data back to vendors/partners. VPPA — Video Privacy Protection Act: a U.S. law aimed at limiting disclosure of people’s video-viewing/rental history. HDCP — High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection: an anti-copy protocol used on HDMI/DisplayPort links to prevent interception/recording of protected video. DRM — Digital Rights Management: a broad term for technical restrictions controlling how digital media can be accessed, copied, or shared. MPAA — Motion Picture Association of America: the former name of the main U.S. film-industry trade group (now typically called the MPA, Motion Picture Association). TV / TVs — Television(s).
- lodovic 10mo agoThank you
- RataNova 10mo agoAppreciate this breakdown
- robgibbons 10mo agoU.S. — United States (of America)
- RataNova 10mo agoEnormous effort goes into stopping users from capturing a single frame, while manufacturers quietly sample the screen multiple times a second by design