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Looks like this is a report on how the company just…handles its business: https://doublespeed.ai/ https://doublespeed.ai/

UncleMeat 10mo ago
Holy crap. They really are leaning into "evil supervillain" advertising copy.
ryanjshaw 10mo ago
How does one profit from this farm of AI content on TikTok?
- ronsor 10mo ago
  Advertising and shilling, just like normal influencers?
- nickthegreek 10mo ago
  Immorally. Probably moves like affiliate/referral linking, client paid campaigns, cpa lead generating arbitrate at scale, product seeding.
- jasonwatkinspdx 10mo ago
  You sell fake engagement to content creators. According to Cambridge's data, $100 gets you around 2k fake but verified tiktok accounts: https://cotsi.org/platforms?view=map&platform=lf https://cotsi.org/platforms?view=map&platform=lf Viewbotting is a pretty big issue on all the streaming platforms. Twitch changed their technical measures recently and a bunch of big streamers concurrent viewers dropped by a large amount. "Fake it until you make it" is a viable strategy with streaming. It's all about fake engagement to game the algorithm and end up in people's feeds.
  - ryanjshaw 10mo ago
    Thanks, this was the piece I was missing.
jonas21 10mo ago
Yeah, it's basically free publicity for them.
jfindper 10mo ago
>"never pay a human again." >"Take proven content and spawn variation." It's almost refreshing how unashamed they are. I hate it, obviously, but I kind of like it better than companies that say something dressed up in marketing speak but actually mean what this site just says outright.
- aunty_helen 10mo ago
  Controversy is currency. Businesses literally try to track and optimise virality these days as part of their marketing.
  - reaperducer 10mo ago
    Businesses literally try to track and optimise virality these days as part of their marketing. Not just businesses. It's governments, too. There's a public park near me that is tracked for likes and social media engagement. If it misses the city's goals for social media engagement a certain number of months in a row, it can be turned back into a parking lot. I objected to this measure of "success" during the public meetings about it, but nobody cares about the old man in the back of the room.
- username223 10mo ago
  It's a great reminder that while room-temperature-IQ AI pumpers like Sam Altman talk about "solving physics" or whatever, the actual value of large language models is generating spam marginally cheaper than Filipinos.
- YetAnotherNick 10mo ago
  No, it's a calculated marketing, not them being honest.
  - jfindper 10mo ago
    >No, it's a calculated marketing, not them being honest. It's obviously marketing. But their marketing strategy appears to be being unashamed about ripping off content and creating bot farms. What are you suggesting they are lying about? They're actually doing it for the good of the world and just pretending they're a bot farm for hire?
coffeebeqn 10mo ago
Wow I thought this type of business was illegal or at least a very gray area conducted on the dark web but looks like the VCs at this point have no morals left. Gambling? Amazing. Spam? Take my money. Ad fraud? Yes please
- exasperaited 10mo ago
  A16Z is basically funding toxic fungi growing on the face of society at this point. So much of what they do seems to be a bet that people will want to pay money to do antisocial things and avoid the consequences.
  - fuzzfactor 10mo ago
    Some people are naturally talented financially, and can make as much money as they like without doing anything to anyone else's disadvantage. And then there's everyone else.
  - moomoo11 10mo ago
    A lot of people are against the current social media tech it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if they're funding the acceleration of its collapse to see what can come next. New generation is less social, more sober, less motivated, more doomer.
  - lawlessone 10mo ago
    > So much of what they do seems to be a bet that people will want to pay money to do antisocial things and avoid the consequences. Yes but they also stand to make money offering services to counteract the services they offer.
  - vintermann 10mo ago
    Surely this guy will never act as unethically to his investors as he does to his "audience", right? I can only assume his VC funders have a bomb collar on him or something, otherwise I don't see why anyone would trust him with a penny.
  - ahartmetz 10mo ago

UncleMeat 10mo ago

Holy crap. They really are leaning into "evil supervillain" advertising copy.

ryanjshaw 10mo ago

How does one profit from this farm of AI content on TikTok?

ronsor 10mo ago
Advertising and shilling, just like normal influencers?
nickthegreek 10mo ago
Immorally. Probably moves like affiliate/referral linking, client paid campaigns, cpa lead generating arbitrate at scale, product seeding.
jasonwatkinspdx 10mo ago
You sell fake engagement to content creators. According to Cambridge's data, $100 gets you around 2k fake but verified tiktok accounts: https://cotsi.org/platforms?view=map&platform=lf https://cotsi.org/platforms?view=map&platform=lf Viewbotting is a pretty big issue on all the streaming platforms. Twitch changed their technical measures recently and a bunch of big streamers concurrent viewers dropped by a large amount. "Fake it until you make it" is a viable strategy with streaming. It's all about fake engagement to game the algorithm and end up in people's feeds.
- ryanjshaw 10mo ago
  Thanks, this was the piece I was missing.

jonas21 10mo ago

Yeah, it's basically free publicity for them.

jfindper 10mo ago

>"never pay a human again." >"Take proven content and spawn variation." It's almost refreshing how unashamed they are. I hate it, obviously, but I kind of like it better than companies that say something dressed up in marketing speak but actually mean what this site just says outright.

aunty_helen 10mo ago
Controversy is currency. Businesses literally try to track and optimise virality these days as part of their marketing.
- reaperducer 10mo ago
  Businesses literally try to track and optimise virality these days as part of their marketing. Not just businesses. It's governments, too. There's a public park near me that is tracked for likes and social media engagement. If it misses the city's goals for social media engagement a certain number of months in a row, it can be turned back into a parking lot. I objected to this measure of "success" during the public meetings about it, but nobody cares about the old man in the back of the room.
username223 10mo ago
It's a great reminder that while room-temperature-IQ AI pumpers like Sam Altman talk about "solving physics" or whatever, the actual value of large language models is generating spam marginally cheaper than Filipinos.
YetAnotherNick 10mo ago
No, it's a calculated marketing, not them being honest.
- jfindper 10mo ago
  >No, it's a calculated marketing, not them being honest. It's obviously marketing. But their marketing strategy appears to be being unashamed about ripping off content and creating bot farms. What are you suggesting they are lying about? They're actually doing it for the good of the world and just pretending they're a bot farm for hire?

coffeebeqn 10mo ago

Wow I thought this type of business was illegal or at least a very gray area conducted on the dark web but looks like the VCs at this point have no morals left. Gambling? Amazing. Spam? Take my money. Ad fraud? Yes please

exasperaited 10mo ago
A16Z is basically funding toxic fungi growing on the face of society at this point. So much of what they do seems to be a bet that people will want to pay money to do antisocial things and avoid the consequences.
- fuzzfactor 10mo ago
  Some people are naturally talented financially, and can make as much money as they like without doing anything to anyone else's disadvantage. And then there's everyone else.
- moomoo11 10mo ago
  A lot of people are against the current social media tech it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if they're funding the acceleration of its collapse to see what can come next. New generation is less social, more sober, less motivated, more doomer.
- lawlessone 10mo ago
  > So much of what they do seems to be a bet that people will want to pay money to do antisocial things and avoid the consequences. Yes but they also stand to make money offering services to counteract the services they offer.
- vintermann 10mo ago
  Surely this guy will never act as unethically to his investors as he does to his "audience", right? I can only assume his VC funders have a bomb collar on him or something, otherwise I don't see why anyone would trust him with a penny.
- ahartmetz 10mo ago