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Should we assume by anything you mean edge devices? You don't update your PC? Your phone?

by slumberlust 10mo ago

allarm 10mo ago
> You don't update your PC? Your phone? You make it sound like it's almost a crime not to.
- dns_snek 10mo ago
  It's not a crime, but it's a foolish thing to do if you care about your data. Find vendors that aren't user hostile and still deliver security updates. For me that's various flavors of Linux (Debian, Fedora, arch, depending on my mood) and GrapheneOS on mobile.
  - duskdozer 10mo ago
    GrapheneOS still takes most Android updates though, no? And since at least Android 13, I can only really think of updates that were hostile (to me).
anal_reactor 10mo ago
I update my PC but I don't update my phone. Android is pretty much a complete product, and new updates just shuffle around the icons. > Major changes in Android 16 > Battery icons are changed to landscape, with the percentage shown inside the icon I think it boils down to how much you trust the software vendor to operate in good faith. My PC runs on Fedora and those people don't have any QA, but at least they do their honest best. My gaming handheld is on Bazzite and it's a similar situation. But Google has a proven record of enshittification of Android. I turned off TV software updates long ago because I only use it as a dumb screen so I don't understand what is there to update. My headphones yell at me "there's firmware update available" but I don't want to discover what new problems were introduced, current firmware works correctly. I have a smart robot that's fully cloud-operated and they recently introduced a completely new app. I'll keep using the old app as long as I can because I don't want to be their beta-tester and the old app works. I have smart light system and there's no reason to update anything because the functionality "use remote control to choose the desired light setup" mostly works with small glitches that aren't too annoying.

Should we assume by anything you mean edge devices? You don't update your PC? Your phone?

allarm 10mo ago

> You don't update your PC? Your phone? You make it sound like it's almost a crime not to.

dns_snek 10mo ago
It's not a crime, but it's a foolish thing to do if you care about your data. Find vendors that aren't user hostile and still deliver security updates. For me that's various flavors of Linux (Debian, Fedora, arch, depending on my mood) and GrapheneOS on mobile.
- duskdozer 10mo ago
  GrapheneOS still takes most Android updates though, no? And since at least Android 13, I can only really think of updates that were hostile (to me).

anal_reactor 10mo ago

I update my PC but I don't update my phone. Android is pretty much a complete product, and new updates just shuffle around the icons. > Major changes in Android 16 > Battery icons are changed to landscape, with the percentage shown inside the icon I think it boils down to how much you trust the software vendor to operate in good faith. My PC runs on Fedora and those people don't have any QA, but at least they do their honest best. My gaming handheld is on Bazzite and it's a similar situation. But Google has a proven record of enshittification of Android. I turned off TV software updates long ago because I only use it as a dumb screen so I don't understand what is there to update. My headphones yell at me "there's firmware update available" but I don't want to discover what new problems were introduced, current firmware works correctly. I have a smart robot that's fully cloud-operated and they recently introduced a completely new app. I'll keep using the old app as long as I can because I don't want to be their beta-tester and the old app works. I have smart light system and there's no reason to update anything because the functionality "use remote control to choose the desired light setup" mostly works with small glitches that aren't too annoying.