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Yup, from the Apple TV article linked in the article[1]: > According to its privacy policy, the company gathers usage data, such as “data about your activity o
by shlip 10mo ago
Yup, from the Apple TV article linked in the article[1]:
> According to its privacy policy, the company gathers usage data, such as “data about your activity on and use of” Apple offerings, including “app launches within our services…; browsing history; search history; [and] product interaction.” [...] transaction information, account information (“including email address, devices registered, account status, and age”), device information (including serial number and browser type), contact information (including physical address and phone number), and payment information (including bank details).
Yeah, sure, that's privacy, Ars.
[1]https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/all-the-ways-apple-tv-boxes-do-and-mostly-dont-track-you/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/all-the-ways-apple-t...
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoLet’s see where to start? 1. Email address - you have to use an email address to have an Apple account. How are they not going to have your email? 2. Devices registered - you mean when you log into your device, they keep track of your logged in devices! 3. Transaction history - they keep track of what you bought from them! Must I continue? Every single piece of data that you named is required to do business with them.
- AshamedCaptain 10mo agoEvery series you've ever watched with the Apple TV -- of course, they keep track of what you watched with them! (/s).
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoIt would be a horrible user experience if it didn’t keep track of the series I’ve watched and where I was in shows so I could pick up and watch where I left off on a different device. This isn’t the iPod days where you would sync your watch history with iTunes.
- AshamedCaptain 10mo agoThe entire point of the remark is that you can throw these pseudo-justifications for any and all forms of tracking, since "tracking all the shows you watch" is precisely the issue that motivates TFA. At the end of the day, they could be taking screenshots of everything you do with your TV and argue it's because of some AI system that will allow you to more easily launch whatever it is you normally do at that time of the day. If you do not see any issue with that, why would you be on this thread?
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoNo the justification for the article is TVs that track your watching no matter what you watching and selling it to advertisers. Apple tracks what you are watching on AppleTV only. I’m on this thread because I understand technology. Are you saying that if you are watching something like “South Park” you wouldn’t want the service that you are watching it on to keep track of where you are in its 25 season run?
- AshamedCaptain 10mo ago> Apple tracks what you are watching on AppleTV only. So the solution they propose to TVs that track what you're watching is to switch to AppleTV where Apple will track what you're watching? And you still justify this somehow?
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoNames are confusing no sarcasm intended. I meant Apple tracks what you watch when watching AppleTV+ (the streaming service) on the AppleTV box. How else are there going to mark what you watched and whdfd you are in a TV series?
- AshamedCaptain 10mo agoSo you are justifying it. For the record it's not just what you watch with the streaming service, it is everything you watch through their TV program. You still do not get it: you can find a pseudo-justification for _every_ type of tracking they do to you. But none of these are really true justifications. You can do _everything_ without any type of tracking -- even the very basic premise: it shouldn't even be true that you need an account _at all_ to use an Apple TV.
- saltcured 10mo agoMan, how I wish there was a Netflix setting "omit things I've already watched", since I know they already know this. I can't help wonder if they are just afraid of the offering looking more bare, or is this really such an uncommon desire to want to see "new to me" stuff and not repeat things?
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- orwin 10mo agoBrowsing history? Search history? Age? Also 'product interaction' is an euphemism to say "if you're sick, we'll sell this information for around 80€" (I think it's close to 200$ for Americans but I don't have any contact in this industry overseas). If you have a cancer and suddenly you see an increase in ads for pseudo-medicine and other scams whose only goal is to extract all the money you have left, and if lucky, your famil's money too, that's from 'product interaction'.
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoSo exactly how do you suppose they sync your browsing history and bookmarks between devices if they don’t store the information? And your browsing history is e2e encrypted by keys on your device. Apple doesn’t have access to your browsing history. You can give Apple any age you want to. It’s not like it checks. And I have no idea about the other topics you are going off on and what they have to do with Apple..
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- chrz 10mo agowhy would i want to sync everything
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoWhy would someone want to sync bookmarks, browsing history etc between their phone, their iPad and their computer? Chrome and Firefox do the same.
- herewulf 10mo agoFirefox only does this if you set it up that way. It's in no way obligatory. That is a far cry from Apple and Google.
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- amelius 10mo agoIt should not be necessary to be tied to the vendor after you have bought the product.
- raw_anon_1111 10mo agoWhat are you going to do with an iPhone without Apple? Yes you can use an Android without Google. But the percentage of people who do so outside of China is meaningless.
- hopelite 10mo agoThe only way to have privacy from the matrix is to not participate in the matrix. That’s in fact your best option. Does one have to consume the drug of movies/tv? I realize that just suggesting something coming in between the addict and their drug causes consternation, but that also makes the point more salient.