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Hello, I am from overseas. Can someone please explain to me why would they do that? What is the goal, what is the plan, what is the intent? Thanks for any comme
by ArcHound 10mo ago
Hello, I am from overseas. Can someone please explain to me why would they do that? What is the goal, what is the plan, what is the intent? Thanks for any comments, I am utterly confused.
- genter 10mo agoDon't worry, a significant portion of us in the US are also utterly confused in regards to whats going on with the federal government.
- ArcHound 10mo agoThanks. I just saw at BBC that it was "for a very good reason". I just thought that I'm missing some context. I guess all that's left to say is to wish you a great day.
- antifa 10mo agoThat very good reason's name? Manufacturing Consent. Iraq WMDs 2.0 brought to you by Mr No New Wars.
- drannex 10mo agoOil. It's always oil.
- SilverElfin 10mo agoI suspect they want to gain access to Venezuelan oil reserves to make energy cheaper, reduce prices, and win elections. Or grift off it for personal wealth. Or both.
- sundbry 10mo agoI suspect it's loaded with drugs rerouted from the speedboats that have been getting BTFO.
- dpkirchner 10mo agoI have also seen people believe that those boats have drugs, it's wild. I mean if they had drugs we would gather proof and hold trials instead of just murder, murder, murder.
- jagoff 10mo agoSo, to be very clear, what do you believe were in those 55 gallon drums on that multiple engined long hull speed boat?
- lawlessone 10mo agoWell we'll never know will we? because they blew it up.
- dpkirchner 10mo agoI'm not going to assume they are drugs, I'm not that weird. I'm confident our military could figure it out and share the evidence, though. They should be competent enough.
- AngryData 10mo agoThey could be smuggling other things, we got tariffs all over the place.
- onlypassingthru 10mo agoGold? Gems? Cartel victims? Or... a 'boatload of cash'?! We'll never know now will we?
- mmustapic 10mo agoI get it. If you are travelling in a high speed boat with 55 gallon drums then you get executed, for the crime of travelling in a high speed boat with 55 gallon drums.
- fatbird 10mo agoFuel oil deliveries to smaller communities that don't buy in tanker quantities. Those boats are basically the u-hauls of the sea.
- spjt 10mo agoBecause it has oil on it, you can sell oil for money.
- m348e912 10mo agoWhile I don't think the US has the authority to warrant the sizing of another country's oil tanker, the US may believe they have justification. Accusation: Venezuela is using Nigeria as a means to launder sanctioned oil. https://x.com/0x2719/status/1998867882365825299?s=20 https://x.com/0x2719/status/1998867882365825299?s=20
- cherryteastain 10mo agoDomestic laws of a country do not constitute valid justification for seizing another country's vessels under international law.
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> Domestic laws of a country do not constitute valid justification for seizing another country's vessels under international law The great powers (China, Russia and America) have each, at this point, explicitly rejected this principle. More broadly, internationa law does contain broad exemptions for piracy.
- Aloisius 10mo agoInternational law exempts piracy? That's somewhat contrary to my understanding, but fascinating if true. But if we're using that as a justification, are we admitting the US has turned pirate then?
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> International law exempts piracy UNCLOS provides that “all states have universal jurisdiction on the high seas to seize pirate ships and aircraft, or a ship or aircraft taken by piracy and under the control of pirates, and arrest the persons and seize the property on board” [1]. > if we're using that as a justification, are we admitting the US has turned pirate then? No, because the seizure was not “committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft” [2]. Under UNCLOS states can’t be pirates. (Again, this is academic. China has been blowing off UNCLOS judgements in the South China Sea for years.) [1] https://www.un.org/depts/los/piracy/piracy_legal_framework.htm https://www.un.org/depts/los/piracy/piracy_legal_framework.h... [2] https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/closindx.htm https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unc...
- crest 10mo agoSteal the oil and in the process destabilize the government to force regime?
- lawlessone 10mo agoIt's great for anyone else selling oil too , pushes the prices up, e.g Russia.
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- credit_guy 10mo agoIt was spelled out in the recently published National Security Strategy [1]: > We want to ensure that the Western Hemisphere remains reasonably stable and well-governed enough to prevent and discourage mass migration to the United States; we want a Hemisphere whose governments cooperate with us against narco-terrorists, cartels, and other transnational criminal organizations; we want a Hemisphere that remains free of hostile foreign incursion or ownership of key assets, and that supports critical supply chains; and we want to ensure our continued access to key strategic locations. In other words, we will assert and enforce a “Trump Corollary” to the Monroe Doctrine. [1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-N...
- givemeethekeys 10mo agoChina wants oil. Wants to pay in Chinese Yuan. Venezuela has oil. Wants to sell them in Chinese Yuan, because America bad. America ensures the world's waters stay safe for commerce as long as all countries continue to do business in dollars. When they don't, America is forced to remind them. China in the meantime continues to diversify away from oil and doesn't mind taking risks that could cut supply. Venezuela's leadership has, for reasons well understood, fewer options. America's number one export, as is every global empire's number one export is its currency. It's a gift and a curse. Saddam's days were numbered when he began selling oil in Euros. Gaddafi's days were numbered when he tried to sell oil in "gold dinars".
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> as all countries continue to do business in dollars This is nonsense. We would still be going after Venezuela even if they did business in physical dollars the way Iran did for years.
- givemeethekeys 10mo agoRarely are the reasons singular, but I do think that stopping trade (and not just oil trade) in USD is the biggest reason.
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> I do think that stopping trade in USD is the biggest reason This hasn't been a thing since the 1970s. Oil is priced and settled in multiple currencies today, including out of New York and London. America is a net oil exporter. And global oil trading volumes are insignificant compared with other dollar uses. There are a lot of stupid reasons we're going to war with Venezuela. None of them have to do with dollar hegemony.
- lossolo 10mo agoThats not true. ~85%+ of global oil trade is in USD. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/ire/focus/ecb.irebox201906_03~3e5a7878dd.en.pdf https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/ire/focus/ecb.irebox201906...
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- dragonwriter 10mo agoWhile seizing oil supplies and using them to corruptly reward cronies of Trump’s is probably part of it, a bigger part of it is just to have a war, both to provide a legal and propaganda cover for domestic repression (a war with Venezuela —due to a completely fictitious invasion by Venezuela—is already part of the pretext for that since Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act on that basis in March) and to provide an electoral rally-around-the-flag effect.