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The [demo PDF](https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image/blob/main/assets/Z-Image-Gallery.pdf https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image/blob/main/assets/Z-Ima...) has ~
by muglug 10mo ago
The [demo PDF](https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image/blob/main/assets/Z-Image-Gallery.pdf https://github.com/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image/blob/main/assets/Z-Ima...) has ~50 photos of attractive young women sitting/standing alone, and exactly two photos featuring young attractive men on their own.
It's incredibly clear who the devs assume the target market is.
- abbycurtis33 10mo agoThey're correct. This tech, like much before it, is being driven by the base desires of extremely smart young men.
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- pixl97 10mo agoI mean spending all that time on dates, and wives, and kids gives you much less time to build AI models. The people with the time and desire to do something are the ones most likely to do it, this is no brilliant observation.
- IncreasePosts 10mo agoYou could say that about any field, and yet we don't see the same behavior in most other fields Spending all your time on dates and wives and kids means you're not spending all your time building houses.
- pixl97 10mo agoI mean things that take hard physical labor are typically self limiting... I do nerdy computer things and I actually build things too, for example I busted up the limestone in my backyard in put in a patio and raised garden. Working 16 hours a day coding/or otherwise computering isn't that hard even if your brain is melted at the end of the day. 8 - 10 of physically hard labor and your body starts taking damage if you keep it up too long. And really building houses is a terrible example! In the US we've been chronically behind on building millions of units of houses. People complain the processes are terribly slow and there is tons of downtime. So yea, I don't think your analogy works at all.
- abbycurtis33 10mo agoWith today's remote social validation for women and all time low value of men due to lower death rates and the disconnect from where food and shelter come from, lonely men make up a huge portion of the population.
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- Manuel_D 10mo agoSomething like >80% of men consume sexually explicit media. It's hardly limited to involuntarily celibate men.
- IncreasePosts 10mo agoIt's not about consumption, it's about having a vast majority of your demo being sexy women instead of a balance.
- Manuel_D 10mo agoI'm still not following. Ads for a pickup truck are probably more likely to feature towing a boat than ads for a hatchback even if they're both capable of towing boats. Because buyers of the former are more likely to use the vehicle for that purpose. If a disproportionate share of users are using image generation for generating attractive women, why is it out of place to put commensurate focus on that use case in demos and other promotional material?
- IncreasePosts 10mo agoI think you would really need to show that's the case. I'm sure nano banana has a huge number of users not generating sexy women.
- cma 10mo agoThey maybe have an rhlf phase, but I mean there is also just the shape of the distribution of images on the internet and, since this is from alibaba, their part of the internet/social media (Weibo) to consider
- weregiraffe 10mo agoGooners are base all right, but smart? Seriously? They can't even use their imagination to jerk off.
- bobsmooth 10mo agoThe ratio of naked female loras compared to naked male loras, or even non-porn loras, on civitai is at least 20 to 1. This shouldn't be surprising.
- iamflimflam1 10mo agoThe model is uncensored, so will probably suite that target market admirably.
- thih9 10mo agoPlease write what you mean instead of making veiled implications. What is the point of beating around the bush here? It's not clear to me what you mean either, especially since female models are overwhelmingly more popular in general[1]. [1]: "Female models make up about 70% of the modeling industry workforce worldwide" https://zipdo.co/modeling-industry-statistics/ https://zipdo.co/modeling-industry-statistics/
- killingtime74 10mo agoIt's interesting the handsome guy is literally Tony Leung Chiu-wai, https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0504897/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0504897/, not even modified
- Auracle 10mo agoConsidering how gaga r/stablediffusion is about it, they weren’t wrong. Apparently Flux 2 is dead in the water even though the knowledge it has contained in the model is way, way higher than Z-Image (unsurprisingly).
- BoorishBears 10mo agoFlux 2[dev] is awful. Z-Image is getting traction because it fits on their tiny GPUs and does porn sure, but even with more compute Flux 2[dev] has no place. Weak world knowledge, worse licensing, and it ruins the #1 benefit of a larger LLM backbone with post-training for JSON prompts. LLMs already understand JSON, so additional training for JSON feels like a cheaper way to juice prompt adherence than more robust post-training. And honestly even "full fat" Flux 2 has no great spot: Nano Banana Pro is better if you need strong editing, Seedream 4.5 is better if you need strong generation.
- GaggiX 10mo agoI didn't even know seedream 4.5 has been released, things move fast, I have used seedream 4 a lot through their API.
- cess11 10mo ago"The Internet is really, really great..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs
- mhb 10mo agoMaybe both women and men prefer looking at attractive women.
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- Zopieux 10mo agoDon't forget the expensive sport cars.
- kouteiheika 10mo ago> It's incredibly clear who the devs assume the target market is. Not "assume". That's what the target market is. Take a look at civitai and see what kind of images people generate and what LoRAs they train (just be sure to be logged in and disable all of the NSFW filters in the options).
- iamflimflam1 10mo agoYeah - that was a bit of a shock! I'll just unblur these pictures - how hardcore could they be...
- CGamesPlay 10mo agoI get the implication, but this is also the common configuration for fashion / beauty marketing.
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