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Framework Sponsors CachyOS
- tristor 11mo agoThis is great news, I migrated from vanilla Arch to CachyOS on my Framework 13 AMD a few months back since I primarily use it for Steam gaming, and it's worked great and netted me around 3fps on average across the games I play. I'm glad to see Framework supporting them directly.
- kachapopopow 11mo agoI recommend installing proton-catchyos for faster shader compilation as well, but you might run into stability issues if you are on an unstable overclock due to how hard it is able to push the cpu with intrinsics. Normal stress-ng I barely see 85 degrees while I saw shader compilation clock in 105c.
- unethical_ban 11mo agoI thought that got installed by default anyway
- kachapopopow 11mo agome too, until I realized it was a completely independent thing that you can install on any distro
- tristor 11mo agoI am pretty sure this already got installed, but I will double-check. I got a nice speedup for shader compilation afterwards. I am not overclocking my Framework 13.
- kachapopopow 11mo agoit does not come pre-installed and you have to select it.
- nialv7 11mo agowhat changes did they make to make the shader compilation faster?
- kachapopopow 11mo agoit's compiled with similar optimizations as the kernel and has access to fast instrinsics (sse, avx)
- Rebelgecko 11mo agoHow does it do with scaling? That's been one of my main pain points with different Linux distros on my Framework (well, that, the trackpad scroll speed, and battery life/suspension)
- whalesalad 11mo agoI just wiped my gaming rig (win11, 12700k, 7900xtx) and installed CachyOS a few days ago. KDE Plasma doesn't work, but Hyprland and Gnome do. I was playing Arc Raiders with a friend within an hour of starting the install. So far everything works, and it even sleeps and wakes without issue.
- Ocerge 11mo agoI did _exactly_ this 3 days ago after I hit a random keyboard chord on accident and brought up CoPilot (which I don't recall installing). I had held on to Windows for gaming just because I didn't want to fuss with Linux, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back. Instantly installed CachyOS onto a USB stick and formatted my entire drive. I use KDE Plasma and it worked just fine. In fact all of my games (including Arc Raiders) are working just fine on Proton 10, maybe running slightly worse. The only issue I've run into is getting battle.net working through Lutris; I ended up manually installing it through Proton 10 on Steam and it worked just fine. Wish I made the switch earlier.
- rdudek 11mo agoI got Battle.net working through Steam. The way I have it is I add the battle.net installer into steam, add proton compatibility, once you run it it installs, but next time you run it, it just opens the launcher unless it needs an update. Then you can install World of Warcraft and other games there and run. So far so good running CachyOS and KDE Plasma.
- belthesar 11mo agoLutris by default will use an older WINE version (something based on WINE8 IIRC) by default for reasons I don't quite understand. You can, however, configure Lutris to use proton-cachyos by default, to which I was able to get Battle.net to install and work correctly without issues. Not sure what feature was implemented in later WINE to make that work better, but it works.
- honeycrispy 11mo agoI love KDE, but it's too buggy for me. About once a day the bottom dock would just disappear. I really wish they'd focus a little more on stability. I use Sway on CachyOS, and to me it's the perfect DE. Being able to switch between windows in under a quarter of a second indispensable once you've experienced it.
- syntaxing 11mo agoWait, I swore Framework was on the sponsor list to begin with when I learned about CachyOS a couple days ago from HN
- cmeacham98 11mo agoIf it was just a few days ago, maybe they had already added the logo but hadn't posted the announcement yet?
- fwip 11mo agoSounds plausible - looks like it wasn't there in October, but was there yesterday: https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://cachyos.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://cachyos....
- bluecalm 11mo agoI am very happy to see it on HN today as I procrastinated half of my day reading about CachyOS, filesystems and then looking at Linux laptops including Framework. A laptop that's tested/shipped with CachyOS would be great. If only I could get a trackpoint/no touchpad version one day :)
- bronson 11mo agoThey did look into putting a trackpoint in there, but there wasn't enough depth in the keyboard cover to support it. Making it work would take re-doing the whole bottom shell (apparently). I'm tempted to make a thicker bezel so the screen won't close all the way anymore. Pick up the room for a trackpoint by going wedge shaped! (edit, obvious downside: the screen would be a lot weaker when closed)
- bluecalm 11mo agoYeah, probably not worth it for them although their design gives me hope that at some point there will be an alternative keyboard to choose from. On my keyboard (Thinkpad T14) trackpoint seats flush or even slightly below the keys but that keyboard has quite a bit of travel and it does touch the screen on regular basis when closed.
- Sleaker 11mo agoDabbled in CachyOS as a replacement fo my main OS recently it worked well, was trying to do the omarchy on cachy for the kernel improvements but ended up bricking things when trying to update so ended up swapping to omarchy mainline. I am seriously considering swapping back over to cachyos though, seems like it's going in the right direction.
- huntercaron 11mo agoWas also looking to see if that was possible recently. Wonder if either party would consider supporting that officially?
- Sleaker 11mo agoSomeone posted a script for installing omarchy on cachy, but it didn't look like it had received updates recently and I reported an issue. Not sure it's being maintained at all unfortunately
- eek2121 11mo agoI'm enjoying CachyOS so far. I've been running it for a while without issue.
- tomega2134 11mo agoIt completely blew up for me as well (unbootable) during an update that included the linux-firmware package split from earlier this year. Fortunately this occurred during a testing period in a VM.
- heavyset_go 11mo agoIt was an Arch-wide thing, there was an announcement on their site about it.
- Sleaker 11mo agoI was dumb and rebooted without redoing the kernel install, otherwise I probably could have just rolled back and reran mkinit to get fixed but the bootloader entry had already been removed for the old kernel as I think I was also running some cleanup commands, and when I booted to reduced mode I had no network to try and recover so I just decided to reinstall. Helps having a separate drive for files. Didn't have to worry about a backup or anything so it went smooth
- k_bx 11mo agoHow is project like Framework Laptop able to sponsor anyone? Are they profitable? Had an impression they're more of a startup stage project far from profitability.
- jsheard 11mo agoThey've raised about $45M in venture capital to date. I don't think they are profitable yet, but they at least have other people's money to throw around for now.
- ignoramous 11mo ago> They raised about $45M in venture capital Impressive for a hardware upstart (which are usually relatively capital intensive), no? > at least have other people's money to throw around for now. Speaking of other people's money... Framework's been sponsoring many a project, some of which are controversial on their forums: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986 https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...
- sudobash1 11mo agoIt looks a little bit like a tempest in a teapot to me, but I'm impressed with their community guidelines. That thread got an exception to allow for more discussion, and it even permits "Critiques of Framework as a company" and "Calls for boycotts or product criticism". https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/1918 https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...
- debo_ 11mo agoI can see why they would do this. There's a vocal minority of completely unhinged Linux people. I've been running different Linux distros since 2002 and it has irritated me since then.
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- Cyao 11mo agoHope this doesn't end up political... Last time the entire Framework Discord's mod team went on strike because of a controversial sponsorship, and ended with the closure of the discord.
- akimbostrawman 11mo ago>ended with the closure of the discord oh no anyways. Discord user and there mods are probably the last people anybody in the FOSS or real world should care about or associate with.
- Cyao 11mo agoSometimes Discord is still pretty helpful with real-time support. It indeed has its flaws, but some of the best real time help is still given there. I love the C++ discord, it's just filled with gems.
- akimbostrawman 11mo ago>it's just filled with gems gems not sorted or indexed at all gated behind a account requiring personal information to just view them.
- DANmode 11mo agoLuckily that’s a solved, or trivially-solved problem now.
- akimbostrawman 11mo agohow?
- DANmode 11mo agoSelect All -> Paste into local or cloud LLM -> Ask question
- rPlayer6554 11mo agoVery interesting that Valve and Framework seem to be throwing their eggs in the Arch basket over Debian/Ubuntu. When I got my first computer, I installed Ubuntu because it was dominant. Maybe it still is for the average Linux downloader, but why are the Hardware companies more into Arch?
- nickorlow 11mo agoI'd think it's because they're introducing updates to address issues w/ the hardware quickly and want a rolling-release distro so users can get the updates faster.
- vitorsr 11mo agoDebian testing is about as stable as it gets while also being a rolling distribution. The promotion of package updates from unstable to testing does not take that long either depending on the severity. I would venture a guess that there is more to it.
- vitorsr 11mo ago> over Debian/Ubuntu And over Fedora/RHEL. If I had to guess, it could be that new entrants find it easier to submit changes to Arch Linux packages [1]. ChromeOS also steered away from Debian-based distributions, choosing a Gentoo base. [1] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages
- listic 11mo agoFunny thing, taking into account the state of affairs in the country: CachyOS mirror for Russia is https://archlinux.gay https://archlinux.gay (I am Russian; left the country in 2022)
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- flexagoon 11mo agoDrewdevault is a weird guy with enough of his own problems (one of which your link explains), but that doesn't make his judgement of DHH any more or less factual.
- tomhow 11mo agoPlease don't post stuff like this on HN. This is not the place for dirt-files, exposés or whatever this is. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46167711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46167711 and marked it off topic.
- akimbostrawman 11mo agooh really? somehow that does not apply to his dirt-files against RMS. not only once but twice he has gotten away with a smear campaign here, but i guess birds of a feather stick together.
- tomhow 11mo agoCan you point to any links that demonstrate this? Character assassination has always been against the guidelines here, and also very much against the tastes of all the moderators I know. That applies regardless of who it’s about or what they’ve done, because it’s nothing to do with the them, it’s all about what HN is and the kind of people we want to be.
- af_arc 11mo agoNo Omartchy?
- timeon 11mo agoThat bloatware went out of fashion.
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- antonkochubey 11mo agoCan you provide a first-party source for Framework sponsoring Omarchy?
- konmok 11mo agoSponsorship doesn't just mean money. Check their twitter account, they did a LOT of publicity for Omarchy and DHH. https://xcancel.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1944839047182213198#m https://xcancel.com/FrameworkPuter/status/194483904718221319... And, of course, their (financial) sponsorship of Rails World is public.
- aidenn0 11mo agoI'm pretty sure it was Hyprland, not Omarchy that caused the controversy (partly because AFAICT they don't sponser Omarchy). They tweeted about Omarchy, but I don't expect companies to do background checks for tweets...
- konmok 11mo agoIt was both. And sure, I don't expect that either for a one-off tweet. This wasn't a one-off tweet. Also, if it was a simple mistake, why not write a tiny apology and acknowledgement?
- erxam 11mo agoBecause it wasn't a mistake. Of course they're going to be coy and try to pretend like they don't agree with and love every single opinion D14HH and the Hyprborean dev have expressed. Believe them when they tell you what they are.
- efficax 11mo agoEverything is "blazingly fast" now. What does it even mean.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 11mo agoStart menu loads in under 250ms seconds
- nrp 11mo agoPhoronix found CachyOS to actually be meaningfully faster than Ubuntu or Fedora on a Framework Desktop: https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6 https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6
- desireco42 11mo agoOh man, now another distro will be labeled nazi... just not that, oh no :) haha! I love Omarchy, I am sure Cachy is great, just don't feel the need to change much of anything.
- Dwedit 11mo agoWhat exactly does sponsoring CachyOS mean? Bandwidth and hosting? Money going upstream to the actual developers who make the packages?
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- culi 11mo agoIs CachyOS going to be to Framework as Pop!_OS is to system76?
- aprilnya 11mo agoI don’t think so. Framework sponsors many more projects like Arch itself, Bazzite, Debian, FreeBSD… https://frame.work/de/en/blog/framework-sponsorships https://frame.work/de/en/blog/framework-sponsorships