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That’s not the same as using it to build models. You as an individual have the right to access this content as this is the purpose of this website. The content
by isodev 11mo ago
That’s not the same as using it to build models. You as an individual have the right to access this content as this is the purpose of this website. The content becoming the core of some model is not.
- delichon 11mo agoIf it's OK to encode it in your natural neural net, why is it not OK to put it in your artificial one?
- BHSPitMonkey 11mo agoIt's the same distinction as making a backup copy of a movie to your hard drive vs. redistributing it to other parties.
- delichon 11mo agoYou mean like free speech for concepts and ideas? It's OK to think them but not to tell other people about them? LLMs are another media of thought exchange, in some ways worse and others better. Of course it's out of bounds from them to produce literal copies of copyrighted work. But as with a human brain it should be OK for artificial neural nets to learn from them and generate new work.
- godelski 11mo agoLet's talk after you've read all hacker news comments. Meet back here in a thousand years?
- delichon 11mo agoI hired a company called OpenAI to do it for me. They're done, and brand new comments are also in its search, at least within a few minutes, try it. Is now good? These modern brain prosthetics are darn good.
- dylan604 11mo agoBut they are not doing it for free. It's not like if you are on a paid account that they remove the HN portion of the training data that is used. For a forum of users that's supposed to be smarter than Reddit users, we sure do make our selves out to be just as unsmart as those Reddit users are purported. To not be able to understand the intent/meaning of "for commercial use" is just mind boggling to the point it has to be intentional. The purpose is what I'm still unclear though
- anigbrowl 11mo agoNow you're just changing the argument. The mental copy of HN you have, besides being incomplete, is not copyable or resaleable.
- godelski 11mo ago> I hired a company called OpenAI to do it for me. >>> If it's OK to encode it in your natural neural net, why is it not OK to put it in your artificial one? Well I guess that lines up. With that line of reasoning I have zero issue believing you outsourced your reading to them. You clearly aren't getting your money's worth.
- ehnto 11mo agoBecause the humans involved have decided they don't want that.
- amelius 11mo agoThis. You can anthropomorphize all you want, but AI is not a human and the law will not see it as such.