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How many people consider what a bathroom looks like before booking a hotel room? I can't say I've ever done so.

RoyTyrell 10mo ago
Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider.
- mumber_typhoon 10mo ago
  And until then they will milk as much money as possible. If there is outrage or they see sales dropping, a few thousand dollars per hotel will replace those rooms with doors leaving with net profit and steady shareholder growth. Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion.
  - eru 10mo ago
    > Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion. Not necessarily. Just like natural evolution doesn't requite its participants to understand themselves, neither does the market require anyone at a business to understand why they are successful.
  - autoexec 10mo ago
    This is why it falls on us to not simply put up with what little they expect us to settle for. Ask about their privacy and bathroom doors when booking and if caught by surprise by a lack of an actual door or inadequate privacy demand a new room, or go elsewhere taking a refund if necessary. I have to admit that I'm getting very tired of the unsustainable push for endless growth driving companies everywhere to jack up prices as high as people will tolerate and then also delivering the least and worst product/service they can possibly get away with on top of it. It means that everything is getting shittier unless you're willing to spend insane amounts of money to get what used to be standard and more affordable. It's becoming exhausting maintaining a list of businesses I no longer want to give money to and products/services I won't pay for. This is especially true as companies change names, redesign products, and buy up one another. the list just grows and grows all the time.
- thaumasiotes 10mo ago
  > Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider. This is closely related to a phenomenon I don't understand. Pretty much every proposed regulatory change (for example: letting drivers pump their own gas at gas stations) meets a fierce counterargument that says "currently, no one considers this situation at all because only one state of affairs is legal. If that thoughtlessness continues after we legalize other possibilities, TERRIBLE THINGS COULD HAPPEN!". But obviously this protasis† can never occur and so it doesn't matter what's in the apodosis. † https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/protasis#English https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/protasis#English (2)
gpm 10mo ago
Actively? Almost no one. But I absolutely check out google maps reviews, and a single review saying that the hotel did not have a proper door on the bathroom would guarantee I would not stay there. Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.
- eru 10mo ago
  > [...] it's a significant hygiene issue. How so?
  - cwillu 10mo ago
    Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume
    - eru 10mo ago
      Have you considered closing the toilet lid?
      - lukeschlather 10mo ago
        There was a study which showed closing the lid reduces the acute problem but actually increases dwell time. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time_Monitoring_of_Aerosols_Generated_from_Toilet_Flushing https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time...
        neutronicus 10mo ago
        The larger conclusion is that the health consequences of this alleged horror seem to be, in fact, fuck-all
        eru 10mo ago
        Well, as long as the closed toilet bowl has time in between to settle, it's all fine. And your hotel toilet isn't exactly a high traffic area.
chatmasta 10mo ago
Really? It's one of my main discriminators. The quality of the bathroom is the highest signal indicator of the quality of the hotel. I look for a stone shower basin, a rainhead, a bath tub, or at a least glass shower door... if it looks bolted onto a plastic box, I'm not staying there. If they're cheaping out on the shower then I'm not going to trust the mattress is clean or the linens are soft.
sbarre 10mo ago
I definitely do not return to a hotel where the bathroom was sub-par... And likewise I absolutely return to a hotel where the bathroom was good when going back to a city. I'm mostly talking about the water pressure for the shower here, but you get the idea.
zapzupnz 10mo ago
I want a hot bath after a long day. I don't have one at home so you best believe I'm having one when I'm travelling.
rdtsc 10mo ago
It could discourage repeat customers? There is a website dedicated to it. It would take someone posting that to a few social media accounts and for hotel search sites to put "has an almost see through glass bathroom door" result category, and I think it could turn from a sneaky money maker into a reason people avoid the place.
neutronicus 10mo ago
My wife is keenly interested in whether or not there is a bathtub. Keenly.
- devilbunny 10mo ago
  Mine is as well. So far the only way I have found to locate such increasingly-rare rooms is booking.com followed by calling the hotel. For all their sins, Booking at least lets you search for hotels that have bathtubs in any rooms at all. Aside from rinsing off after a pool or ocean swim, or when she is actually dirty (e.g., after yard work), I think I have known her to voluntarily take three or four showers in 25 years together.
jen20 10mo ago
I do. Most of my travel is alone for work so I don’t care about a door, but I always call ahead and refuse to book hotels with shower curtains.
ajsnigrutin 10mo ago
You don't, because you expect there to be a toilet, a sink, a shower, towels, a mirror etc. there. There's nothing to consider, it's just expected to be there. Same for the bathroom door. But if i got burned once or twice by a room without a bathroom door, i'd start checking that too and avoiding places that don't have them.
TitaRusell 10mo ago
Depends on how long I stay. For a two week vacation I definitely check out the layout. For a city trip I basically accept anything with a bed and running water.

Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider.

mumber_typhoon 10mo ago
And until then they will milk as much money as possible. If there is outrage or they see sales dropping, a few thousand dollars per hotel will replace those rooms with doors leaving with net profit and steady shareholder growth. Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion.
- eru 10mo ago
  > Some statistical analysis ppt made by some mid level MBA must have proposed this and got a promotion. Not necessarily. Just like natural evolution doesn't requite its participants to understand themselves, neither does the market require anyone at a business to understand why they are successful.
- autoexec 10mo ago
  This is why it falls on us to not simply put up with what little they expect us to settle for. Ask about their privacy and bathroom doors when booking and if caught by surprise by a lack of an actual door or inadequate privacy demand a new room, or go elsewhere taking a refund if necessary. I have to admit that I'm getting very tired of the unsustainable push for endless growth driving companies everywhere to jack up prices as high as people will tolerate and then also delivering the least and worst product/service they can possibly get away with on top of it. It means that everything is getting shittier unless you're willing to spend insane amounts of money to get what used to be standard and more affordable. It's becoming exhausting maintaining a list of businesses I no longer want to give money to and products/services I won't pay for. This is especially true as companies change names, redesign products, and buy up one another. the list just grows and grows all the time.
thaumasiotes 10mo ago
> Until recently, you never had to think about it. But as it becomes more common it will become something you might want to consider. This is closely related to a phenomenon I don't understand. Pretty much every proposed regulatory change (for example: letting drivers pump their own gas at gas stations) meets a fierce counterargument that says "currently, no one considers this situation at all because only one state of affairs is legal. If that thoughtlessness continues after we legalize other possibilities, TERRIBLE THINGS COULD HAPPEN!". But obviously this protasis† can never occur and so it doesn't matter what's in the apodosis. † https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/protasis#English https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/protasis#English (2)

gpm 10mo ago

Actively? Almost no one. But I absolutely check out google maps reviews, and a single review saying that the hotel did not have a proper door on the bathroom would guarantee I would not stay there. Even traveling alone it's a clear indication they have no respect for their guests, and it's a significant hygiene issue.

eru 10mo ago
> [...] it's a significant hygiene issue. How so?
- cwillu 10mo ago
  Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume
  - eru 10mo ago
    Have you considered closing the toilet lid?
    - lukeschlather 10mo ago
      There was a study which showed closing the lid reduces the acute problem but actually increases dwell time. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time_Monitoring_of_Aerosols_Generated_from_Toilet_Flushing https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time...
      - neutronicus 10mo ago
        The larger conclusion is that the health consequences of this alleged horror seem to be, in fact, fuck-all
      - eru 10mo ago
        Well, as long as the closed toilet bowl has time in between to settle, it's all fine. And your hotel toilet isn't exactly a high traffic area.

chatmasta 10mo ago

Really? It's one of my main discriminators. The quality of the bathroom is the highest signal indicator of the quality of the hotel. I look for a stone shower basin, a rainhead, a bath tub, or at a least glass shower door... if it looks bolted onto a plastic box, I'm not staying there. If they're cheaping out on the shower then I'm not going to trust the mattress is clean or the linens are soft.

sbarre 10mo ago

I definitely do not return to a hotel where the bathroom was sub-par... And likewise I absolutely return to a hotel where the bathroom was good when going back to a city. I'm mostly talking about the water pressure for the shower here, but you get the idea.

zapzupnz 10mo ago

I want a hot bath after a long day. I don't have one at home so you best believe I'm having one when I'm travelling.

rdtsc 10mo ago

It could discourage repeat customers? There is a website dedicated to it. It would take someone posting that to a few social media accounts and for hotel search sites to put "has an almost see through glass bathroom door" result category, and I think it could turn from a sneaky money maker into a reason people avoid the place.

neutronicus 10mo ago

My wife is keenly interested in whether or not there is a bathtub. Keenly.

devilbunny 10mo ago
Mine is as well. So far the only way I have found to locate such increasingly-rare rooms is booking.com followed by calling the hotel. For all their sins, Booking at least lets you search for hotels that have bathtubs in any rooms at all. Aside from rinsing off after a pool or ocean swim, or when she is actually dirty (e.g., after yard work), I think I have known her to voluntarily take three or four showers in 25 years together.

jen20 10mo ago

I do. Most of my travel is alone for work so I don’t care about a door, but I always call ahead and refuse to book hotels with shower curtains.

ajsnigrutin 10mo ago

You don't, because you expect there to be a toilet, a sink, a shower, towels, a mirror etc. there. There's nothing to consider, it's just expected to be there. Same for the bathroom door. But if i got burned once or twice by a room without a bathroom door, i'd start checking that too and avoiding places that don't have them.

TitaRusell 10mo ago

Depends on how long I stay. For a two week vacation I definitely check out the layout. For a city trip I basically accept anything with a bed and running water.