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Yeah, "MCP" felt like BS from jump. Basically it's the problem that will always be a problem, namely "AI stuff is non-deterministic." If there was some certain
by jrm4 11mo ago
Yeah, "MCP" felt like BS from jump. Basically it's the problem that will always be a problem, namely "AI stuff is non-deterministic."
If there was some certainty MCP could add to this equation that would perhaps be theoretically nice, but otherwise it's just .. parsing, a perhaps not "solved" problem, but one for which there's already ample solutions.
- chpatrick 11mo agoWhy are they nondeterministic? You can use a fixed seed or temperature=0.
- datadrivenangel 11mo agoThe whole point of "agentic AI" is that you don't have to rigorously test every potential interaction, which means that even a temperature zero model may behave unexpectedly, which is bad for security.
- urbandw311er 11mo agoEven with zero temperature (and some of the latest models don’t allow that) you’re still not absolutely guaranteed deterministic output.
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- ares623 11mo agoJust repeatable output.
- chpatrick 11mo agoWhat does deterministic mean in this case?
- jrm4 11mo agoRight, I'm using a perhaps loose definition of deterministic here, as in -- "With AI tools, you cannot 100% predict any output based on input, the way you can with most programming."
- chpatrick 11mo agoIt's also kind of an impossible request given that AI tools are for generic unpredictable input.