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Winamp clone in Swift for macOS
- hyperbole 1y agoA winamp clone for os/x - interested in learning swift, and wanted a stable version of winamp for os/x - two itches scratched
- mabedan 1y agoNice. Maybe next step can be integration with one of the music services
- asimovDev 1y agoWhat was the most fun and least fun you had while learning Swift for this project? I remember having trouble making a Swift UI for my C app because I forgot to disable sandboxing in Xcode project settings. Spent a frustrating two hours debugging
- andreww_young 1y agoMemories from over 20 years ago, but later I switched to foobar. I prefer foobar's simple interface. Does anyone still remember foobar?
- accrual 1y agoI do! I also went from Winamp to Foobar 2000 for a few years. Then I discovered an actively maintained modern patch for the final Winamp called WACUP, and now I'm back to daily driving that instead. :) https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/
- worble 1y ago>remember foobar It's still being actively developed
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- stackghost 1y ago>Does anyone still remember foobar? I remember foobar. I also seem to recall that it does not really whip the llama's ass.
- MangoToupe 1y agoI've never seen os x written like that. I assumed it was a version of os/2 I had never heard of.
- tonyedgecombe 1y agoNot only that but it hasn't been called OS/X for nearly a decade.
- dylan604 1y agowas it ever called OS/X?
- Wowfunhappy 1y agoIt was called OS X and/or Mac OS X. But now, not only is it not branded OS X, but it’s literally not at version 10 anymore. (The X was a roman numeral.)
- dylan604 1y agoIt was a rhetorical question. Yes, I'm well aware it was OS X and that it was never referred to as OS/X
- runjake 1y agoIt was never called "OS/X"[1]. I've never even seen it called that colloquially until today. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS
- deathwarmedover 1y agoI wondered initially if this was a winamp port for older macs. It requires macOS 13.0 (High Sierra, 2017) or later, which is several releases after it stopped being called OS X. 10.11 (El Capitan, 2015) was the last OS X.
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- eknkc 1y agohttps://webamp.org/ https://webamp.org/
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- AuthorizedCust 1y agoDoes it whip the llama’s ass?
- Razengan 1y agoLlamas are cute, do not hurt them please
- treetalker 1y agoit really does
- iso1631 1y agoOr does it lick it? #misheardLyrics
- racl101 1y ago#demolitionManReference
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- yohannparis 1y agoGreat job! I'm sure it was a lot of fun to produce.
- xenophonf 1y agoPretty misleading headline. This isn't actually Winamp. It's someone's attempt at a clone.
- antonyh 1y agoIt's a clone with a stolen name, and given that it's not been abandoned it's likely they'll come down on this like a bag of hammers.
- stronglikedan 1y agoSeems like Mr. Greenwood may be too green to know what's coming!
- dang 1y agoOk, we've cloned the title above. (Submitted title was "Winamp for OS/X")
- xenophonf 1y agoThanks, Dang. You're the bestest.
- littlecranky67 1y agoGreat project, I am using Audacious from homebrew with an XMMS skin to recreate the experience - but it struggles with HiRes displays amongst other things. You should, however, change the name. I am pretty sure the name Winamp is trademarked and you can get into legal trouble.
- BruceEel 1y agoNice! Speaking of Winamp - are you using any alternative music player for iOS that you would recommend?
- randomgermanguy 1y agoI started using https://github.com/kushalpandya/Petrichor https://github.com/kushalpandya/Petrichor a while ago. Though design is more akin to the default Apple Music app than WinAmp.
- BruceEel 1y agoInteresting! Will be checking it out.
- runlevel1 1y agoI've wanted a music player like the early versions of iTunes for a while, and this looks like it might fit the bill. Those who've only known Music.app and later iTunes versions might be surprised to learn that there was a time when iTunes actually had a clean, intuitive UI: https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/itunes-app https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/itunes-app
- BruceEel 1y agoBeautiful. I remember running iTunes 5 on my Powerbook G4, incredible how things have changed.
- HeckFeck 1y agoCan't go wrong with FB2k: https://www.foobar2000.org/mac https://www.foobar2000.org/mac It now has a last.fm plugin, so let's get scrobbling!
- BruceEel 1y agosweet! Thx!
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- bitwize 1y agoDoes not use the macOS standard toolkit or comply with Apple user interface guidelines. One MacWorld mouse out of five.
- hirako2000 1y agoThe original likely infringed all Windows design principles. Yet they pulled off one of the most usable media player.
- Wowfunhappy 1y agoWindows users don’t care about Windows design principles because there basically aren’t any.
- badsectoracula 1y agoAt the time there were. Between 1995 and 2001 or so most Windows applications had largely consistent interfaces (yes i can think of exceptions, like WinAMP :-P and even Microsoft's own Office didn't always follow the rest of the OS, but in general at the time following the OS style was considered desirable).
- dardeaup 1y agoWould you expect a WinAmp clone to comply with Apple's user interface guidelines?
- dpflan 1y agoThis def needs skins next: https://skins.webamp.org/ https://skins.webamp.org/
- mocko 1y agohttps://archive.org/details/winampskins_major_tom_v5_1 https://archive.org/details/winampskins_major_tom_v5_1 was a true work of art
- netsharc 1y agoIt feels like making a UI with skins is a lot easier. Just draw the bitmap onto the window, and set some areas to be clickable (and change the bitmap of that area to "button is being pushed" when the user is holding the mouse down)...
- tomislavpet 1y agoAlso worth checking out: https://re-amp.ru https://re-amp.ru
- armitron 1y agoNo source "freeware", would you trust a binary from a random Russian developer to not contain/deliver a trojan?
- wang_li 1y agoWould you trust a binary from a random developer to not contain/deliver a trojan? Russianness has nothing to do with it.
- superkuh 1y agoThese days executing random code is standard and if you don't do it you're wierd. Case 1: browsers automatically execute code from random sources. Case 2: People tell you to curl someurl.whatever | sh to install compilers (ie, the only way to use the rust rustc on non-rolling distros). And it goes on and on. It's not really an exception to standard practice to install applications. The only difference here is that it is from an actual human person instead of a corporation. They are at least somewhat trustable, unlike corporations which always have their profit motive to sell you. Also, if you only run programs that have been approved by a third party organization first you're really restricting yourself.
- dpark 1y ago1. Browsers aggressively sandbox the code they run. 2. If you’re running curl | sh on random urls you don’t trust, you’re asking for trouble. Running random executables you find online is a good way to get spyware and ransomware installed. I’m not saying that’s the case for re:Amp, but it’s absolutely still valid to tell people not to run random programs they find online.
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- Dwedit 1y agoThe page itself has a more accurate description (Winamp *clone* in swift for OS/X) than the headline here. Since the actual Winamp had a questionable source code release, it could feasibly have been ported to other platforms, so we need to know that it is in fact a clone, and not a port of the real Winamp.
- dang 1y agoOk, we've changed the title now. (Submitted title was "Winamp for OS/X")
- shevy-java 1y agoI liked winamp when I was using windows. I think any winamp clone should run on OSX Windows and Linux. I understand that cross-platform code may be annoying, but we really need applications that work on the three main operating systems.
- dpark 1y agoI’m not entirely sure we need a Winamp clone on MacOS anyway. It seems unreasonable to expect that everyone who ever builds consumer software should make it work on every machine, though. Why not also insist that it should work on iOS and Android? Those are undoubtedly the most commonly-used OSes at this point.
- wiseowise 1y ago> It seems unreasonable to expect that everyone who ever builds consumer software should make it work on every machine, though It’s not. Stop supporting vendor lock-in toolkits and you’re golden.
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- antonyh 1y agoIf it doesn't run on Windows, how can it call itself Winamp? Macosamp makes more sense.
- rollcat 1y agoOS/Xamp perhaps. Joking aside, there's Audacious[1], which is an excellent and cross-platform player, with support for Winamp skins. Also check out WebAmp[2] and the skin museum[3]. [1] <https://audacious-media-player.org https://audacious-media-player.org> [2] <https://webamp.org https://webamp.org> [3] <https://skins.webamp.org https://skins.webamp.org>
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- Arubis 1y ago[MacAMP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacAmp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacAmp) was real and official, directly from Nullsoft, a million years ago.
- fmbb 1y agoFun and easy to reskin as well!
- Lammy 1y agoThere was also “Winamp:Mac” 0.71 alpha version official from Nullsoft: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/winampmac https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/winampmac Its awkward name was because “MacAMP” dev became third-party: https://macintoshgarden.org/author/subband-software https://macintoshgarden.org/author/subband-software
- agildehaus 1y agoreAmp (https://re-amp.ru/ https://re-amp.ru/) is a faithful recreation as well, but no updates since 2020 (and not OSS)
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- runjake 1y agoMinor point: I read this as OS/2. The author may want to correct that. macOS naming and versioning is confusing enough. macOS was never known as OS/X. It was formerly known as OS X and Mac OS X. As a former OS/2 user, it really threw me off for a second. Also, you're using a trademark ("Winamp") in the name. So, expect a C&D from Llama Group or whomever. Aside from that, it looks really nice and well-designed! And it's in Swift and not some janky Electron app. Good job on those fronts!
- tracker1 1y agoSame, actually... I'd probably just say "for macOS" at this point, since it is the current term from what I understand. Aside: the project seems interesting enough, didn't see support for (icecast) streaming listed in the project though, which although less common today still exists.
- zekyl314 1y ago100%! I first read as OS/2 as well, and was like interesting.
- fortran77 1y agoThat's how I read it, too! I got excited! "Finally," I thought "I can run WinAmp on my OS/2 Machine". Then I clicked to the repo and saw it was just a Mac thing.
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- echelon_musk 1y agoEvery single time something like this comes up I feel compelled to mention Audacious. See my previous comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32779590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32779590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39965620 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39965620 Like most days, I am using it right now on macOS.
- WD-42 1y agoSupports old Winamp skins too, which is the whole point!
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- theoldgreybeard 1y agoWhy does the title call it OS/X? It's macOS and it's described that way on the repo. Unfortunately his is just a recreation rather than an actual port, since the license for the source that was released prevents derivative works. Foobar2000 is the spiritual successor to Winamp and it runs on Windows and macOS as well as mobile.
- ryandrake 1y agoThe "About" section on that page says "Winamp clone in swift for OS/X" but their description says "Winamp macOS [...] A native macOS application..." Not sure I understand what OS/X is--I thought it said OS/2 for a second.
- theoldgreybeard 1y agoOh, I originally missed it on the side I only looked in the README. I don't think it was ever called OS/X? It's been called OS X and Mac OS X but never OS/X.
- efields 1y agoFoobar2000… now there's an app I haven't heard of in (checks calendar) nearly 20 years. Glad it's still kicking.
- theoldgreybeard 1y agoIt's still a wonderful piece of software and actively supported.
- stalfosknight 1y agoWhy do people insist on still calling macOS "OS X" (or "OS/X" for that matter)?
- dpark 1y agoWhy do people insist on calling “X” “Twitter”? When something has a name for 15 years, it tends to be pretty sticky. “OS/X”, though, that’s just someone messed up and jumbled two names together.
- incanus77 1y agoI mean, muscle memory & fatigue may be part of it. I used MacOS for a number of years, then I used Mac OS X for 8 years, then OS X for 5 years, and now macOS for 9 years. During that time I also used Windows and Linux from time to time. Their names didn't change in a way where just calling them that was perceived as incorrect.
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- viraptor 1y agoRebellion against meaningless name changes. Why does Apple insist on calling Mac OS an OS X, Mac OS X, macOS?
- mrits 1y agoNot everyone cares about the marketing departments feelings
- speed_spread 1y agoHad Apple given their OS a proper name, I assure you people would use it. You shouldn't use the "OS" moniker as part an OS's name. It's redundant, like naming your child "Human Child Jimmy". Obviously people will take all sorts of shortcuts around it, which you will not have control over, leading to weird "HC/Jim" and the likes. It's a bit like "U.S.A." not being a proper country's _name_. I mean, would you name you children "Coherent-Enough Assemblage of Bodyparts"? You keep that long-form stuff for the _description_ field! Somebody fucked up when they filled out the form, ain't no fixing it now.
- skyyler 1y agoThis is not for OS X, this is for macOS 13.0 or later. OS X is macOS 10. This application does not open on macOS 10.14.6.
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- anthk 1y agoQMMP should run under OSx.
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- dmitrygr 1y agoNative app!!! It is not a trashpile of javascript plus a huge copy of V8. Warms my heart! Thank you!
- conradfr 1y agoObvious difference with the real Winamp, bugs etc: - Can't copy/paste a folder - EQ and Playlist are not detachable / moveable - No library - Does not restore the playlist at launch - Crashes when playing a flac file - Does it needs to auto play the winamp mp3 at launch?
- pbalau 1y agoRe your last point: Duh! The only reason to use a Winamp clone is nostalgia.
- dmix 1y agoI use Vox which is pretty close https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player They also have cloud syncing for your Flac audio files, that part costs $$ but it's nice if you have lots of lossless rips/torrents.
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- newman314 1y agoMissed a chance to call this swiftamp instead and avoid namespace collision.
- debo_ 1y agomachamp
- lacy_tinpot 1y agoIsn't that a Pokeman?
- ghssds 1y agoSeems fishy
- brulard 1y agoOr swamp to be shorter
- sachahjkl 1y agofinally.. good software
- teekert 1y agoAh I miss the days when my own music felt like something valuable (now it feels like a mess). When I’d turn on music via the computer (using xmms or Amarok hooked up to the amplifier. I feel a bit like Sonos and iOS/Android and Spotify are a trap. And I fell for it. I’m getting old.
- superultra 1y agoMan, seeing the visualizations here reminded me of how great it was to load up some music in Winamp (downloaded via soulseek), turn on the geiss visualizer, and get stoned.
- cyberpunk 1y agomilkdrop and project m, those were the days. Why aren’t these really a thing anymore? Does anyone know any non-shit way to get nice visuals from apple music or spotify or whatever these days?
- musictubes 1y agoThere are some visualizers in the Mac App Store. I'm using Ferromagnetic right now and like it well enough. There are still visualizers in Apple Music left over from the iTunes days but they're kind of lame.
- VerifiedReports 1y agoI stumbled onto one years ago by accident, maybe an Easter egg or something. I came back to my computer (Mac) after several hours of iTunes playback to see a hitherto unknown visualization running, with fairly primitive-looking graphics by today's standards. It was not any of the visualizations available in iTunes at the time. I filed a bug on it with Apple and they got back to me asking how the hell I had invoked this, because they'd never seen it before. Never did get to the bottom of it.
- zacharycohn 1y agoIntentional pun?
- Fnoord 1y agoIf you look at [1] you can see some derivations from Milkdrop/Project M. There were a lot of other, good visual plugins and software. VJ software, specifically, but also Libvisual just abstracts input and output, therefore allowing you to use all of these (supported) visualization plugins on any supported media player. It isn't much developed anymore these days, but this is the correct way forward. Looking at the actors in Livisual [3] G-Force is decent but also a couple may be missing from earlier Libvisual releases. You may also like Lemuria [4]. Winamp's AVS is also FOSS [5]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop [2] https://github.com/Libvisual/libvisual https://github.com/Libvisual/libvisual [3] https://github.com/Libvisual/libvisual/tree/master/libvisual-plugins/plugins https://github.com/Libvisual/libvisual/tree/master/libvisual... [4] https://github.com/dr-ni/lemuria-2.1.1 https://github.com/dr-ni/lemuria-2.1.1 [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Visualization_Studio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Visualization_Studio
- lproven 1y agoBeen running Foobar 2000 for macOS for a year, but this is pretty in a retro way, I guess. https://www.foobar2000.org/mac https://www.foobar2000.org/mac <- the least bollocks-infested media player on macOS since about, oh, September 2000.
- undeveloper 1y agovlc..?
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- twelvedogs 1y agoit's a good player but it's always been clunky and oddly buggy maybe it's less so on mac but on linux i get random long pauses on video playlist playback that often end with it just stopping
- lproven 1y agoI am a big fan of VLC, and I just wrote an article about it: https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/12/vlc_guru_gong/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/12/vlc_guru_gong/ But VLC is a multi-function tool that can play audio and video. Foobar is, as far as I can tell, just an audio player. It's more focussed and consequently smaller and simpler. That's what I like about it. I keep both on my machines and I use both... but I use VLC for video, and Foobar for just listening to music.
- jchw 1y agofoobar2000 was released for macOS in around 2017, and I'm pretty sure it's still not really at parity with the Windows version. Not that it's bad, but just saying.
- ks2048 1y agoiOS version? Considering ditching Spotify for local files.
- WorldPeas 1y agoIOS vlc is pretty good, it lets you open a fs directory
- VerifiedReports 1y agoI was not a fan of WinAmp in its heyday because I thought all the "skins" sucked. Wow, have times changed. I look at this screenshot now: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mgreenwood1001/winamp/refs/heads/main/fullscreen.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mgreenwood1001/winamp/refs... and think about how usable this looks. Buttons are demarcated clearly. The scrub bar is big enough to grab. Everything is legible. UI sucks now. Meanwhile... seeing the lyrics in that shot makes me wonder if WinAmp supports karaoke playback... I guess the original did through plug-ins. Hm, maybe I'll take a shot at adding it to this one.
- bcraven 1y agoI often see these 'clones' of winamp and for some reason they all use skins that look like shit. As someone who still uses winamp (via Wacup) I can swear by the 'Bento' skin that is not a garish nightmare. https://www.deviantart.com/unpopularpizza/art/Winamp-Big-Bento-Black-Theme-263163672 https://www.deviantart.com/unpopularpizza/art/Winamp-Big-Ben...
- VerifiedReports 1y agoThe skin I saw most often back in the day had some dumb non-rectangular shape with a "texture" on it and the controls scattered all over the place. Right in line with the "skinning" fad of the early 2000s, which defeated the intuitiveness of GUIs and decades of their evolution. Then came the even-dumber "transparent-UI" fad. Fortunately both those died. Oh but wait: Here comes Apple, exhuming one of them in 2025! But Apple has always hated customization, so they probably won't be resurrecting "skins" too.
- layer8 1y agoI’m in the minority who thinks that having a “skin” in the first place already goes against good UI. Hence foobar2000 all the way.
- VerifiedReports 1y agoWe may be in the minority, or we may simply be in the minority who can identify the problem and articulate it. I think that is actually the truth behind a lot of the design regression we see today (and a lot of other regression).
- sysworld 1y agoIt's a shame this too doesn't play/pause with space bar.. like Spotify, drives me nuts.
- zie 1y agoIt's MIT licensed, so you can add it. they might even take a patch. I agree it's pretty lame when the space bar doesn't play/pause media in players though.
- misnome 1y agoIt is supposed to in Mac Spotify, it’s just a bug that apparently isn’t important enough to fix. You can hit Tab then Space, and it works normally (yes this is fucking awful).
- aschen 1y agoThe best Winamp clone for macOS is still Re:AMP https://re-amp.ru/ https://re-amp.ru/ If you want the original Winamp experience with full support of M3U playlist then don't go further than Re:AMP
- rc_kas 1y agolatest release was 5 years ago
- ccakes 1y agoDon’t mess with perfection
- slim 1y agowhat do you mean ? the last release was 22 years ago. This is just trying to be the perfect copy of that.
- AndrewDavis 1y agoYou joke. I still use an old winamp 2.81 on my windows machine. About 15 years ago I came across some plugin dll files that added flac support. The only issue I ever run into is some non ascii characters in ID3 tags make that file unplayable. But winamp is perfectly capable of editing them. It's even pretty good in the high dpi monitors because Ctrl-D enables "Double size" mode on the main window and equaliser. And the playlist window has customisable font sizes.
- kayodelycaon 1y agoThis is awesome and I wish I could use it. Like a lot of people, I don’t have a music folder, just Apple Music. I have a few things scattered across my Dropbox account I could collect. (Unless it could somehow use downloaded songs from Apple Music.) Streaming music services are a blessing and a curse. I could never afford or collect the vast number of albums in my library. So lack of ownership isn’t a problem for me. The only downside is I have to use their app, which they have zero incentive to improve. :(
- me551ah 1y agoWho even has mp3s and music files lying around locally anyway. I miss Winamp and want to run it again, but since I mostly use streaming services I can’t anymore
- dur-randir 1y agoStill, in the year 2025, the only offline player that stays in menu bar and doesn't clutter the dock is Vox.
- mark_l_watson 1y agoI may not use this but I just had a pleasant five minutes reading through some of the source code. Off topic, but: I currently think Swift is the most interesting non-Lisp language. I tried Rust and didn’t particularly like it and I have given up using Haskell on anything but small fun projects. Great to see useful open source projects. I now pay for YouTube Music but I still have an enormous library of MP3 music files that I have purchased over the years so I probably will build and run this player, at least for a few days.
- mark_l_watson 1y agoEDIT: I just tried it, nice!
- dtgriscom 1y ago404 error? Matt Greenwood's page is still there, but the winamp repository is gone. (Not all that surprising, as I expect "winamp" is trademarked, although there are still some other Github "winamp" repositories.)
- gullevek 1y agoURL dead, 404 ...