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The United States does not have a "Department of War".
by Hizonner 11mo ago
The United States does not have a "Department of War".
- thaunatos 11mo agoIt does. https://www.war.gov/ https://www.war.gov/
- gjsman-1000 11mo agoConsidering the sheer amount of wars the CIA and DoD are responsible for that are ongoing; the rebranding is more honest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century#21st-century_wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...
- marbro 11mo ago[dead]
- felixgallo 11mo agonope: https://www.military.com/feature/2025/10/17/department-of-war-not-legally-what-trumps-executive-order-really-does.html https://www.military.com/feature/2025/10/17/department-of-wa...
- gjsman-1000 11mo agoNobody uses statutory titles for anything to be honest; when’s the last time you referred to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act instead of “Obamacare”? When’s the last time you referred to the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program instead of “Social Security”? I’ve never heard anyone say Title XIX of the Social Security Act instead of “Medicaid,” or Title XVIII of the Social Security Act instead of “Medicare,” or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families under the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act instead of “Welfare.”
- Terr_ 11mo ago> when’s the last time you referred to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act instead of “Obamacare” I refer to it as "the ACA", which is short and avoids an unofficial moniker first introduced as an insult. It's not just a personal preference, it's civically important: There are still morons out there who have spent the last 15 years simultaneously gushing about how the ACA is awesome while demonizing "Obamacare."
- gjsman-1000 11mo agoACA is still technically incorrect; as it’s actually statutorily the PPACA. Accuracy, am I right?
- ImPostingOnHN 11mo agoYou're kind of proving their point: People seem to use common names (ACA, Obamacare, DoD) regardless of whether they abide by statute (PPACA) or executive meme-forcing (DoW).
- johnnyanmac 11mo agoBy that position we should have been using TUSoA this whole time. US is wrong. USA is wrong.America is wrong.
- Hizonner 11mo agoThere's a difference between an informal name that catches on organically and isn't politically charged, and an highly visible, ostentatiously political renaming specifically intended to make a point.
- gjsman-1000 11mo agoYou’re telling me “Obamacare” isn’t politically charged? It was originally a political slur.
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- Hizonner 11mo agoBad news. Trump and Hegseth do not have the authority to rename the Department of Defense, no matter what they put on a Web site. That requires an act of Congress, which hasn't happened. And probably won't, because even if they could convince Congress to do it, that would require them to ask... and their whole modus operandi is based around pretending to have authority they don't have. Calling it the Department of War is accepting that Trump's the King.
- Loughla 11mo agoThe ada.gov website has a banner that reads, "Democrats have shut down the government. Department of Justice websites are not currently regularly updated." Trump is the king. Edit: To be clear, I think it's complete and utter garbage. I'm assuming people think I think it's a good thing? It's not a good thing. At all.
- tomrod 11mo agoNo, Trump has a minor fiefdom district and some authority for services the states and their representatives agreed to let the federal government execute. He is not king.
- jfengel 11mo agoHe is routinely violating laws, so quickly that there isn't enough room in the courts for all of them. "King" is inaccurate, but correctly implies the degree to which the law does not apply to him.
- Loughla 11mo agoMy point was that he is acting like a king. And if he's allowed to act like a king, checks and balances don't mean anything. Which makes him the king. Turns out, letting government operate on a system of agreements that require appropriate behavior instead of clear consequences for this type of behavior is a bad idea.
- jcattle 11mo agoIf Congress tells the Executive: "Here's some money, spend it on USAID to stabilize regions in which the US Army operates and are of strategic importance". And the Executive says, "thanks for the money! I will spend it on whatever the hell I choose." And congress just belly flops over the next time they pass a budget, without checking that overreach of power, the Executive looks more and more like a king. You voted for congress, but apparently congress doesn't matter anymore.
- miltonlost 11mo agooh do you also call it the Gulf of America?
- downrightmike 11mo agoDid anyone ask the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci?
- tomrod 11mo agoGulf of Vespucci sounds great.
- johnnyanmac 11mo agoIn my eyes, Gulf of America is really stupid and useless. But calling it "Department of War" clearly states their intent, contrary to his campaign as the "no new wars" president. We renamed it 70 years ago for a reason, and such reason completely flew over the admins' heads.
- openasocket 11mo agoThe Department of Defense DID NOT used to be called the Department of War. Before there was no central department for the entire military. Instead, there was the Department of the Navy and the Department of War (which was for the Army).
- brandonmenc 11mo agoYes.
- TheCoelacanth 11mo agoDepartments are created by acts of Congress. Not because a wannabe dictator registered a domain name.
- mlnj 11mo agoI don't see any impeachment proceedings from Congress. Looks like the wannabe dictator has their blessings.
- array_key_first 11mo agoWhat's the difference between a wannabe dictator and an actual dictator? I don't think it's what's on a piece of paper somewhere. I think it's what they're able to do, and get away with.
- netsharc 11mo agoFunny how we can tell now whether the other person is a Kool-Aid drinker by how they refer to things. Gulf of Mexico, or Gulf of America?
- rpmisms 11mo agoDepartment of War is far more honest. The Gulf name doesn't mean anything, it's a joke and we all know it.
- anon7725 11mo agoIt is a “joke” insofar as it’s an asinine undertaking. It’s not a “joke” in the sense of being lighthearted or unserious: there was a press conference at the White House. Official US maps have been updated. Google Maps has been updated.
- rpmisms 11mo ago[dead]
- SpicyLemonZest 11mo agoIt's not a joke and I don't know it. Trump is gradually demanding the authority to control every aspect of American life, and you're enabling it by not taking his entry-level steps seriously. I hope you'll realize your mistake while he's still stuck on relatively harmless things.
- rpmisms 11mo agoA gag, a giggle. > Trump is gradually demanding the authority to control every aspect of American life Trump, or the federal government? This trend is bipartisan, and renaming the Gulf doesn't really hold a candle to PRISM.
- tokai 11mo agoYou, and people like you, are a part of the problem.
- BirAdam 11mo agoThat was actually the original name. Edit: from 1798 until 1949
- jwithington 11mo agoNegative, the Department of War was the predecessor to the Dept of the Army. There used to be a Secretary of the Navy and a Secretary of War, both of whom rolled up direct to the president. Following post-WWII reorgs, the DoD was created and the Secretary of War became the Secretary of the Army, reporting to the Secretary of Defense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_th...
- terminalshort 11mo agoIt does and always has. What we name that department makes no difference.
- hereme888 11mo agoit’s “official” as a permissible executive-branch label, but legally it's still the DoD until congress passes the law.
- hereme888 11mo agoRe: dept of war - Just gonna leave this here because I find it humorous: https://x.com/DOWResponse/status/1989076342051320061 https://x.com/DOWResponse/status/1989076342051320061
- MangoToupe 11mo agoAt least it’s a more honest name.
- empath75 11mo agoThat and Gulf of America instantly gets people on my block list. Do not care what they have to say about anything.