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They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France <-> Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathro
by nullhole 11mo ago
They have a passenger service too!
€3200 for France <-> Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question).
~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice...
https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/ https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/
https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/transatlantic-a-bord/ https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/transatlantic-a-b...
- dhosek 11mo agoThe first thing I thought when I saw the article was, I wonder if they have passenger service.
- sillyfluke 11mo agoDue to longterm conditioning from reading tech article headlines and discussions, my brain now autocompletes the word "cargo" to "cargo cult" every time it sees it in a tech context. So I read "Largest cargo cult sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing" and was immediately intrigued...
- namibj 11mo agoMany freighters have space for the 12 passengers they're allowed to carry before they get reclassified to passenger ship with all the post-Titanic SOLAS requirements those incur. The first 12 however are easy, they self-select to be low-maintenance, they just get their breakfast/lunch/dinner portion from the ship's cook, and have their cabin. A little electricity, reasonable running water, and they're contend. Essentially a hotel room plus partaking the staff dinner/in-House-catering. Most people just can't handle the boredom these days, and many don't have that many days to spare, either.
- potato3732842 11mo agoThe passenger capacity is mostly expected to be used by people related to the shipping industry, basically repositioning people the same way airlines do. Like you'll have two guys being repositioned and another guy will be there with a clipboard and tasked with something.
- jonah 11mo agoI have a friend who is a writer and he has taken passage on freighters a few times. He really liked it for getting work done.
- PaulDavisThe1st 11mo agoMy brother did this (Southampton -> Baltimore). It's a lot slower than the Queen Mary. He told me when he arrived "You don't know what time is until you've already watched all the movies you bought with you, read all the books, done all the work, and you realize you've still got 5 days left". And he's probably the most able-to-handle-boredom human being that I've ever known.
- dhosek 11mo agoYeah, I’m aware of that and I hope one day to do this myself. A somewhat isolated time like this seems super appealing to me.
- ttoinou 11mo agoI crossed the atlantic twice, each time for 650 euros the 13 days… add 250/300 euros for internet
- nullhole 11mo agoWhat type of ship was it? And how was the experience, did you enjoy the trip & find enough to do to stay busy/not bored along the way?
- ttoinou 11mo agoBig commercial cruiseships from Norwegian NCL and Costa Cruises It was amazing ! Perfect to relax, take a step back and think There's plenty of things to do, you can hang out with others, read a book, work online, look at waves all day long, go to the gym etc. The real danger is eating too much, food at restaurants is unlimited, even at official table service you can order multiple mains, multiple desserts etc. they won't say anything
- baxtr 11mo agoSomething like these? https://www.costacruises.eu/destinations/transatlantic.html https://www.costacruises.eu/destinations/transatlantic.html
- ttoinou 11mo agoYes those are the ones, although not all transatlantic are "repositioning cheap", it depends on the current market. You can also look at cruise comparators / cruise resellers to see all of them, and sometimes you have better prices with them. Something to take into account is that USA residents have different cruises prices, usually cheaper, the rest of the world usually has to pay more
- HowardStark 11mo agoHave long been interested in something like this. From where to where? How did you arrange the trip?
- lastofthemojito 11mo agoConsidering it's a roll-on/roll-off ship, they're this close to providing a transatlantic passenger+vehicle ferry service, which would really be fun.
- gsf_emergency_4 11mo agoInterviews with CEO, where he stresses that the main problem is not sailing upwind but to get there on time. https://youtu.be/qhAlImSIDyU https://youtu.be/qhAlImSIDyU https://youtu.be/QfHJE1UwMTw https://youtu.be/QfHJE1UwMTw Another contender https://youtu.be/xsFc3pro8Y8 https://youtu.be/xsFc3pro8Y8 (Also FR based, cultural reason?)
- simgt 11mo agoThere's also Grain de Sail. Not only French, all these are from the region of Britanny, sailing is very cultural.
- pablomalo 11mo agoNit: Brittany. With greetings from Saint-Malo ;)
- potato3732842 11mo agoGetting there on time is just a figment of the fact that you have to effectively sail further when sailing upwind.
- fsckboy 11mo agoso what you're saying is, there's no problem sailing upwind, you just need to worry about getting there on time?
- mrlonglong 11mo agoBear in mind that US cars are designed to cope with poor quality fuel with sulphur in it. Bringing an European spec car with engines not designed for use in the US may result in expensive damage. This is based on what I learned 30 years ago so this may be out of date now.
- brucehoult 11mo agoNo reason why they wouldn't have Starlink today. Or you could take your own Starlink Mini.
- LightBug1 11mo ago[flagged]
- brucehoult 11mo agoLol. EDS at its finest. I don't like Tesla and its cars any more than you do, but SpaceX and StarLink are amazing.
- LightBug1 11mo ago[flagged]
- brucehoult 11mo agoGosh. I hope you don't use Facebook, or an iPhone, or any product from a company backed by YC. "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages." -- Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, 1776
- LightBug1 11mo agoIt's funny you mention those. I don't use any of them! Listen, it's pretty simple. Where I have a real choice, I will attempt to make the best choice available. That's what money is. The very voting mechanism that drives capitalism. A bit more conceptually solid than Mr Smith's invisible hand. And, by the way. With Mr Musk, I definitely have a choice.
- namibj 11mo agoAs always capped at 12 passengers by SOLAS: the convention classifies every merchant ship with more than 12 passengers as a passenger ship not merely a cargo ship; AFAIK the worst (to profitability) effect is that the ship suddenly needs to carry a doctor.
- afh1 11mo agoYou get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".
- mejutoco 11mo agoMany hotels in the US cost more than that per night. Of course everything is relative.
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- rconti 11mo agoYou get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is whenever they assume their reality is the only reality.
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- akamaka 11mo agoOn the contrary, that’s exactly in line with how much the average American spends on holidays: https://www.pacaso.com/blog/average-vacation-cost https://www.pacaso.com/blog/average-vacation-cost
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- lewo 11mo agoMore precisely, this is the price per person but if you travel alone, you have to share a room with someone else. Or you would have you to make private a double room which costs about 5400E.
- f_allwein 11mo agoYou could also take the Queen Mary2 from Southampton to New York. 8 nights, from 920 GBP: https://www.seat61.com/queen-mary-2-transatlantic.htm https://www.seat61.com/queen-mary-2-transatlantic.htm