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This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe
by pizlonator 1y ago
This is really sad to read!
Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right?
(I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)
- miltonlost 1y agoDid you look at the links he posted? Have you seen the news reports he linked to? This is all actually happening right now. Please, read all he linked to an watched the videos of ICE kidnapping people violently. https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/11/05/daycare-teacher-taken-by-ice-north-side-immigration https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/11/05/daycare-...
- pizlonator 1y agoI think my question had exactly the effect I wanted: lots of folks chiming in to give color. Of course I’ll read all the links! I’ve already read a lot about this! But the first hand commentary from fellow hackers is pure gold IMO
- turnsout 1y agoIt's not an exaggeration. People have been kidnapped by these armed masked idiots within two blocks of my house twice, and those are just the closest cases I know about. Go check out the /r/Illinois subreddit [0] to see what's happening. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/ https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/
- turnsout 1y agoAnd of course now the parent post is "flagged." Thank you, Libertarian overlords, from protecting the tech community from this dangerous content.
- SlightlyLeftPad 1y agoI gotchu fam, I’m snapping Full page screenshots of all the commentary here.
- vkou 1y agoIt would not be good to allow malcontents to spread disharmony.
- SlightlyLeftPad 1y ago<our benefactors have entered the chat>
- tedivm 1y agoThey unflagged it, but the pause in upvotes means it dropped off the front page and out of people's minds.
- ryandrake 1y agoMission accomplished for the flaggers. I don't know why HN can't/won't fix this obvious abuse mechanism.
- hypeatei 1y agoIt's a forum run by venture capital if that tells you anything. The "tech right" were one of the reasons Trump won this past election. It describes a voter bloc consisting of Libertarian/Thiel/Musk types who are very motivated by: immigration (H1B), deregulation, increasing their wealth, and gaining more power.
- UncleMeat 1y agoThey aren't libertarians. They are fascists. I am rapidly becoming convinced that large portions of the SV ecosystem are just anti-human as a base ideology.
- tedivm 1y agoI live in Chicago, and this article doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad it is. My wife went to the beach yesterday for 10 minutes to try and rest from the chaos and a fucking black hawk helicopter buzzed by her. They literally fly over my house daily. People, US citizens included, are literally being abducted. People have been shot and killed by masked agents. People have had their children abandoned on the side of the road after being kidnapped. Just today they raided Little Village with hundreds of masked troops. I'm in a dozen signal groups to get alerted about where things are. What scares me the most is how few people seem to actually know what is happening here. I talk to people outside of Chicago, and watch the news, and I don't see or hear about anything that's going on here. I tell them what's happening and they are shocked. It is impossible to convey what is happening here, how scared we all are for this country, and how much things seem to escalate every single day that this goes on. Edit: This post has been flagged and hidden, just demonstrating how much this country wants to pretend this isn't happening. It's unflagged now, but the fact that anyone would want to hide what's happening here shows how bad things are for all of us.
- SlightlyLeftPad 1y agoThe media has an existential threat of having their broadcast licenses revoked so yeah that probably has a lot to do with why there’s no coverage. If the media had balls, they’d broadcast anyway, license or not.
- tedivm 1y agoThere's a lot of good independent media looking at this. Some good sources: https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com https://bsky.app/profile/djbyrnes1.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/djbyrnes1.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/thetriibe.com https://bsky.app/profile/thetriibe.com https://bsky.app/profile/prisonculture.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/prisonculture.bsky.social
- SlightlyLeftPad 1y agoWhen the media wasn’t really a money printing machine for billionaires, this also wasn’t an issue.
- AstroBen 1y agoI'm an immigrant in Chicago (fortunately not one of the racial groups they're targeting) and I follow it pretty closely - yeah it's all really happening. I saw kids get taken away in front of where I live and others just a few streets down The abuse of power there is ridiculous
- tossacct999 1y ago> fortunately not one of the racial groups they're targeting …yet.
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- queenkjuul 1y agoNot at all exaggerated. The agents are lying about anything and everything even when there's evidence. One of them threw tear gas out of the window of their SUV because they were pissed to be stuck in traffic. They'll hit and run parked cars and flee the scene.
- giraffe_lady 1y agoEvery bit of it is true and there's more that he doesn't mention, probably because it's not as well documented yet.
- kasey_junk 1y agoMy kids school has started doing drills with the students in what to do when ice shows up. Like they do for tornadoes. They need to because ICE is using schools as raid locations every day.
- wombatpm 1y agoThe children might be citizens, but ICE seizes them so that the immigrant parents have to show up and claim them. Chicago schools are reporting lower attendance as a result. We just had a case where a daycare provider was hauled out despite having her papers in order-she was subsequently released. Priests being shot in the head with pepper balls, intentional accidents being caused by agents. And when they do something so egregious that they might face charges, they runaway to other states with vehicles and evidence. I look forward to everyone in these organizations facing accountability. And not just the thugs on the street but the leaders first all the way to the top. Under the auspices of civil disobedience I refer people to Beverly Hills Cop and the bananas scene. Also, Bass Pro Shops sell liquid skunk smell. It would be a shame if it were to end up in vehicles or on the outside air vents of cars. No damage, just annoying.
- ryandrake 1y ago> I look forward to everyone in these organizations facing accountability. And not just the thugs on the street but the leaders first all the way to the top. Unfortunately, the chances of this happening are minuscule, even if the executive branch ever changes hands in the future. The other party is too moderate, and doesn't have the backbone or courage to see it through, nor the patience and attention to detail to get them all. They'll be tied up in subpoenas, testimonies in front of Congress, hearings, hearings about hearings... Meanwhile, the people (both in leadership and boots on the ground) who are doing this today will slink back to normal life. The ringleaders will slide into comfy roles in think tanks, corporate boards, and lobbying groups. The hired thugs will go back to working as mall security and bouncers, hoping nobody remembers the time they cosplayed as Bond villain footsoldiers.
- tr4ce 1y agoIt is really bad. A glimmer of hope is a governor with a spine. https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/what-resistance-means-to-governor-j-b-pritzker https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/...
- tedivm 1y agoI live here, and Pritzker says the right things then does the wrong things. He sent the Illinois State Police to help protect ICE from protestors as Broadview, freeing up their resources to attack and kidnap people. In half the videos you see out there his state police as assisting ICE. We have Chicago Aldermen out in the streets and in the hospitals getting arrested and assaulted, we have candidates for congress like Kat Abughazaleh being indicted for protesting, and then Pritzker is giving speeches and going on podcasts while not even stopping his own thugs from helping ICE. He doesn't have a spine, he has an election strategy.
- selectodude 1y agoI think the reality is far scarier - he doesn’t have nearly as much power over ISP as he should.
- inahga 1y agoIf he doesn't, he needs to be forthright about it in his speeches and podcasts. "The ISP is disobeying my direct orders." Until then, he bears responsibility for their actions.
- selectodude 1y agoThe NYPD all but threatened to kill Bill de Blasio's daughter when he tried to bring them to heel. I'm limiting myself to being furious at the fucking freaks terrorizing my city instead of creating new shit to get mad about. There's plenty as is.
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- tptacek 1y agoI live in Oak Park, just outside Chicago (and adjacent to Broadview, where the major regional ICE detention center is). We have daily ICE sitings, and approximately every-other-day ICE detentions or arrests. It's a constant presence. What it means psychologically depends. If you're someone who could visually be mistaken (perhaps in bad faith) for a Latino, it's a very big problem. ICE/DHS routinely stops people based on their visual appearance, it takes 15 minutes for them to work out that you're present legally, and throughout the whole thing you have hanging over you that they might just decide to detain you at Broadview anyways, which is a nightmare even assuming your eventual release. If you're not someone like that --- at least where I live --- you can mostly ignore what's happening, if that's what you want to do. People are basically living their lives. About the closest an ordinary white/Black family here gets to direct disruption is needing to make special arrangements with their landscaping people.
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- tptacek 1y agoNone of this has anything whatsoever to do with whether "Pedro" will be there to shovel their driveway. Nobody cares about that. We all live with 100% certainty that somebody will exchange dollars for snow shoveling. The reason you hear about landscapers right now is that ICE is directly targeting them. If you're ICE, looking to meet a detention quota from whatever quadrant Oak Park is in, the easiest way to do that is cruise down the street and stop anybody on a riding mower.
- jrexilius 1y agoI live in Chicago and it is a BIG city. I've seen, in real life, none of this. But the online reports are legion. I think, like a lot of things, you can choose what reality you want to inhabit and find anecdata online to support any of it. During the Obama adminstration the right wing whackos came up with theories about black helicopters and UN camps and the rest. This may be _slightly_ more factual as the Orange Troll is more purposefully playing a media game, but I'd still take these reports with a grain of salt.
- Judgmentality 1y ago> you can choose what reality you want to inhabit Thank you for outing yourself as willfully ignorant. I also appreciate the unintended admission of privilege.
- segmondy 1y agoworse, here's the chicago ICE commander performing a nazi salute to taunt people and then pretending he was playing rock paper scissors when he saw he was being recorded. https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1os3ez6/greg_bovino_one_of_the_main_cbpice_commanders/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1os3ez6/greg_bovin...
- ocdtrekkie 1y agoI live in the Chicago area and can confirm. Landscapers are afraid to work because they keep getting abducted off people's lawns. Out in the suburbs, a roofing crew was abducted mid-roof replacement, ICE left a hole in someone's house trying to abduct people working for a living.
- abuehrle 1y agoIn the northern suburbs of Chicago, we often hear helicopters circling. A gardener was taken on my block. The home owner told the masked agent he didn't have permission to be on his property, and the agent pointed a gun at him. If you suspect anything is exaggerated, you can look to dozens of videos posted online of how these people act and speak. They roll in caravans of unmarked SUVs. Last week they rolled up to an elementary school (https://www.reddit.com/user/rubinass3/comments/1ol319f/ice_disrupting_an_evanston_il_grade_school/ https://www.reddit.com/user/rubinass3/comments/1ol319f/ice_d...). [Here](https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1986936912134000877 https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1986936912134000877) is a particularly hard to watch video of ICE tackling a nonverbal man. Things feel bad to me in a way (I suppose I'm fortunate to be able to say) they haven't until now. I normally can see the "other side" of issues but I can't fathom how this is what anybody wants. I'm angry and I'm sad. If there's a silver lining, the community is fired up. The mayor of Evanston talked with an awesome woman who was detained while peacefully protesting (https://danielbiss.substack.com/p/daniel-biss-talks-with-detained-ice https://danielbiss.substack.com/p/daniel-biss-talks-with-det...). It's a weird and sad time.
- drewbug01 1y agoIn a way, the article understates how bad it is. I live in Chicago, and in my neighborhood every lamp post (and mailbox, and other surface) has a poster detailing your rights. “Fuck ICE” (and related) signs all over. Most businesses and a lot of houses in my neighborhood have signs explicitly stating that ICE is not welcome inside without a warrant. My coffee shop regularly has free whistles to take, so you can help alert others. Just a few days ago I was working at a coffee shop and got a rapid response notice that ICE was about a block from me. I got a few more that day, all within a few blocks of my house. It is incredibly stressful. I married people, have kids who are not white - they are a target. I pray every day that the next daycare raid isn’t my sons daycare, that ICE doesn’t stop my husband as he goes to work, that my mother-in-law doesn’t get snatched off the street when she walks to Target. It’s bad.
- bckmn 1y agoIt's all really happening. Pretty much every meeting with friends touches on what their recent sightings or stories of ICE terror have been. Everyone who hasn't seen it first hand has a second hand story. Absolutely everyone I talk to is against ICE's actions and that is the thing giving me hope that it will be defeated by the citizenry.
- Freedumbs 1y agoHave you been ignoring the reports? This is a small slice of the carnage the government has unleashed. They've detained at least 170 US citizens so far for hours or days, shot numerous US citizens, killed US citizens, killed tens of people in detention, the detention center conditions are torture so people intentionally self deport, the people who are deported disappear, are never heard from again ...............
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- pkilgore 1y agoIt gets it all right. We're being terrorized. If you don't care fuck you.