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It’s just easier to do some things if they’re prohibited by law. If you don’t want children to smoke, not selling them ciggarettes is a great first step.

by Aeolun 1y ago

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
All the statistics I’ve seen show that 25-30% of teenagers smoke weed. It’s but the governments job to make you out not to be the bad guy to your kids.
- Aeolun 1y ago
  It’s not their job, but if it needs to be done anyway I don’t mind them doing it for me. And smoking weed is a hell of a lot healthier than social media.
isaacremuant 1y ago
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- Aeolun 1y ago
  You need to calm down. That’s a hell of a lot of personal attacks following a comment made in good faith.
  - isaacremuant 1y ago
    [flagged]
- tomhow 1y ago
  You can't comment like this on Hacker News, no matter what you're replying to. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
  - isaacremuant 1y ago
    If you are not doing this same thing to every comment trying to remove my freedom, which then will call me some label for disagreeing with COVID policies or whatever then I can't really take any of the guidelines seriously. I was here when it was all about segregating the ones who disagreed from life, even denying healthcare while still forcing them to pay taxes. We're way past fake politeness when the discourse is always pro war, pro xenophobia for certain acceptable targets (e.g. Russia), pro disparaging certain alleged ideologies/parties (e.g. US republican). 2020-2021 happened and there's been no apology. Till then, the biased moderation rings hollow.
    - tomhow 1y ago
      I don't even know what your position or point was. It’s irrelevant. We're don't moderate for/against any side or position. We just don't have time to take that into account. The guidelines apply regardless of what you're trying to say, and we routinely get these kinds of grandiose claims about our covert motivations and biases, when the reality is far more boring: just preventing this site from turning into a flaming hellscape is a big enough task, without trying to complicate things further by promoting any particular ideology or narrative. For what it's worth I was here behind the scenes in 2020-21, and I know very well that plenty of effort was made to give all perspectives a fair hearing. What we're asking for is quite simple. The guidelines are a condition of participating here. A sincere effort to observe them is expected from everyone, otherwise it's fine to choose not to participate.
      - isaacremuant 1y ago
        You realize that you're putting your "boring moderating reality" against the very real claims of goverments and people here to - Remove people who didn't obey the house imprisonment rules during covid from society. - Removing their jobs and ability to make a living - Stealing their money - Denying their ability to healthcare for any procedure - Be put in camps permanently until they "complied" because "their body, our choice". Once you factor that type of attack where no human rights nor Nuremberg trial result was respected, the faux civility and non bias rings absolutely hollow. I'll try to attack their points with more faux civility like you want because staying silent is what got us there, but sometimes it may come up as more raw, since it's very easy to repeat state euphemisms to destroy people's lives but it's harder to counter permeated propaganda. Edit: Reading my post again, it's absolutely on point. Hard to regret that. How would you write it?

It’s just easier to do some things if they’re prohibited by law. If you don’t want children to smoke, not selling them ciggarettes is a great first step.

by Aeolun 1y ago

It’s just easier to do some things if they’re prohibited by law. If you don’t want children to smoke, not selling them ciggarettes is a great first step.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago

All the statistics I’ve seen show that 25-30% of teenagers smoke weed. It’s but the governments job to make you out not to be the bad guy to your kids.

Aeolun 1y ago
It’s not their job, but if it needs to be done anyway I don’t mind them doing it for me. And smoking weed is a hell of a lot healthier than social media.

isaacremuant 1y ago

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Aeolun 1y ago
You need to calm down. That’s a hell of a lot of personal attacks following a comment made in good faith.
- isaacremuant 1y ago
  [flagged]
tomhow 1y ago
You can't comment like this on Hacker News, no matter what you're replying to. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- isaacremuant 1y ago
  If you are not doing this same thing to every comment trying to remove my freedom, which then will call me some label for disagreeing with COVID policies or whatever then I can't really take any of the guidelines seriously. I was here when it was all about segregating the ones who disagreed from life, even denying healthcare while still forcing them to pay taxes. We're way past fake politeness when the discourse is always pro war, pro xenophobia for certain acceptable targets (e.g. Russia), pro disparaging certain alleged ideologies/parties (e.g. US republican). 2020-2021 happened and there's been no apology. Till then, the biased moderation rings hollow.
  - tomhow 1y ago
    I don't even know what your position or point was. It’s irrelevant. We're don't moderate for/against any side or position. We just don't have time to take that into account. The guidelines apply regardless of what you're trying to say, and we routinely get these kinds of grandiose claims about our covert motivations and biases, when the reality is far more boring: just preventing this site from turning into a flaming hellscape is a big enough task, without trying to complicate things further by promoting any particular ideology or narrative. For what it's worth I was here behind the scenes in 2020-21, and I know very well that plenty of effort was made to give all perspectives a fair hearing. What we're asking for is quite simple. The guidelines are a condition of participating here. A sincere effort to observe them is expected from everyone, otherwise it's fine to choose not to participate.
    - isaacremuant 1y ago
      You realize that you're putting your "boring moderating reality" against the very real claims of goverments and people here to - Remove people who didn't obey the house imprisonment rules during covid from society. - Removing their jobs and ability to make a living - Stealing their money - Denying their ability to healthcare for any procedure - Be put in camps permanently until they "complied" because "their body, our choice". Once you factor that type of attack where no human rights nor Nuremberg trial result was respected, the faux civility and non bias rings absolutely hollow. I'll try to attack their points with more faux civility like you want because staying silent is what got us there, but sometimes it may come up as more raw, since it's very easy to repeat state euphemisms to destroy people's lives but it's harder to counter permeated propaganda. Edit: Reading my post again, it's absolutely on point. Hard to regret that. How would you write it?