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Nah fuck this. Suno is slop.
by mplewis 1y ago
Nah fuck this. Suno is slop.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoPeople were listening to slop long before Suno.
- ares623 1y agoSo let’s encourage more slop at an accelerated pace? That’s our answer to everything huh. We’ve been doing “arguably bad thing” X, so let’s amplify it.
- doug_durham 1y agoLet people have fun.
- tartoran 1y agoLet the fire burn through everything, it's fun to watch. That until it consumes the land under you. Well, this is metaphorically speaking. I have no problem with AI tools per see, however what bothers me is the flood of sloop that is inescapable. If things were tagged AI and I could opt out when I'm not looking for that kind of content I'd be totally fine with it, it's just a took after all.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoI think this technology is a net gain for the elderly. It's so easy to be creative and have great results.
- ares623 1y agoI mean sure, if you ignore all the negative externalities then it is a net gain for everyone.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoThat doesn't address my comment on the elderly.
- ares623 1y agoMakes online scams more realistic, which are predominantly targeted at the elderly. Makes journalism even more useless, ruining democracy for the rest of us. Decimating all other artistic livelihoods, putting more strain on society. Sure all these things have already been happening. But again, I am dumbfounded that a lot of people are actually saying “yes, let’s make all of that worse exponentially. Being able to do “fun thing” at the speed of thought is worthy tradeoff”. Everyday at $work me and my colleagues put a lot of effort into deciding what tool/framework/architecture to use, listing all tradeoffs and deciding the most appropriate one. I’m sure a lot of people on this forum do this every day too. I don’t understand why those same people don’t put the same effort to make the same thoughtful decisions on the thing that _actually_ _actually_ matters.
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- HDThoreaun 1y agomaking music you dont like has negative externalities?
- cactusplant7374 1y agoSometimes culture gets a little sloppy.
- aeon_ai 1y agoNah. Categorizing all AI as slop lacks nuance and demonstrates a shallow understanding of art
- ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 1y agoCategorizing AI generated media as anything but slop demonstrates a shallow understanding of art.
- aeon_ai 1y agoDefine art for me then. Because if you can’t do that, and effectively articulate why AI media can’t be art when used as a tool by an artist to achieve their creative intent, I would claim the win on this. one.
- ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 1y agoYou were going to claim the “win” on this one no matter what anyone says. That’s one of the features of being arrogant. I have zero desire to get into a semantic argument over this. That would be very boring and is a poor refuge for anyone trying to have an honest discussion. It’s not a coincidence that nearly all the people today with actual artistic talent universally despise AI. Meanwhile it’s all the talentless tech bros who won’t shut up about how they’re now incredible “artists” that love AI. I don’t see prompting an AI as creating art in the same way that commissioning a painting doesn’t make you an artist. In this example, it’s the AI model that is the artist creating the “art”, but since AI models aren’t sentient (yet) then what they create isn’t art anymore than a sunset is despite being aesthetically beautiful. Your “it’s just a tool” argument is especially ridiculous when you consider that the “tool” can create the same “art” in its entirety without you. It would be like if I googled the Mona Lisa and copy pasted it into Paint and then called myself an artist because I used Google and Paint as my tools. In the case of AI models anything you can think to prompt is already embedded in the model so it’s not like you’re even creating anything. It’s already there. If you have infinite monkeys on a keyboard prompting AI they can generate every single possible image an AI is able to generate. Where is the artistry again?
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- jstummbillig 1y agoI have come to understand the usage of "slop" as possibly the sloppiest thing of all: Something that looks like critique, if it were not so entirely devoid of content.
- doug_durham 1y agoIt is the absolute "sloppiest". It's just become a lazy ill-considered critique worth nothing.
- viccis 1y agoI think part of the point of it, as a thought terminating cliche, is that it's usually used to critique something that is commensurately fatuous.
- NewsaHackO 1y agoYeah, arguments about “slop” have definitely devolved lately. Maybe it’s strange (or just typical human behavior), but using “AI = slop” as the only reason to dismiss something and refuse to engage in a discussion clearly parallels the way some people use AI to spam feeds.
- viccis 1y agoWait until you find where the modern use of "slop" (as opposed to its original meaning before a few years ago) came from
- ottah 1y agoYou know someone doesn't have anything critical to say when they use that word.